05-03-2005 05:29									#1
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We have probably finished producing colony pods for now, as desirable terrain is becoming scarce. Once we finish founding those bases, I suggest we switch to Democracy. 2 base sites are still up for debate; colony pods have what I think are good sites set as their destinations in the end-turn save.

In 2164, we will be able to start lowering our land bridge to Yang. This should take 8 years, though it could be thwarted should the Spartans take offense to our pact with the Morganites and send attack ships that way. On the other hand, it would be better to discover treachery now than later.

When should we start producing military units, and what sort should we produce? Though we have only laser weapons right now, I'm sure the Morganites would be eager to trade us Synth Fossil Fuels if the Spartan attack us. No AI is strong enough to warrant a military at this point.

	05-03-2005 06:19									#2
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I like defensive military units first - as I think we need to be prepared for some attack relatively soon. Some probe units scattered about so that we can respond to any square with relative ease would be good. PDs are good improvements. What about more sensors and fungus for protection? That's my 2 E.C.s

	05-03-2005 09:07									#3
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As I already opined, we need probe defenders to keep from being infiltrated.

	05-03-2005 12:34									#4
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Lets have Morgan give us EnvEcon

	07-03-2005 14:54									#5
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About defenders - it's good to have them, but it's generally cheaper and more efficent to have attackers.
You will never know where enemy will strike, so you need a relatively big number to cover all cities, at the same time it's no problem attacking with mobile attackers when you actually see the target.

	07-03-2005 21:33									#6
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I personally am of the opinion that you can never have too many crawlers and formers.

As far as military goes, 2-1-2 are great units. They can serve as a primary offense for now, later they can be cheaply upgraded to 2e-1-2 for MW hunting/protection or to a higher weapon value.

For defense, use 1-2t-2 stationed between whatever 3 or 4 cities it can cover. Good spots would be in between Fallow Time and Flowers Preach. One to cover the Urainium Flats cities. And maybe one in the north. These give an adaptable defense, plus they are still good for attacking worms.

	08-03-2005 18:59									#7
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What we need are units of Kegs........of Beer.

No really.

Heheh..

I am a dumbass and deserted our team. I apologize. CT plays the game I would play anyways (go CT, go!). On the other hand, perhaps my re-sobriety (hic) can add to our cultural output.

Skills I have that might add to the fun:

I am a wonderful bullshitter.
I can lie.
I can sell our diplomacy for profits we don't deserve.
I am still a little drunk.

Oh!

I forgot to say hello. I am a Gaian. This is all that matters! And massive apologies for the slack that I did not pick up during my absence. Perhaps I can try to add something now. Use my skills as the Lady would have wanted, and we will win.

-S

	09-03-2005 00:30									#8
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Welcome back smacksim

	09-03-2005 13:12									#9
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A forgotten(an absentiee) gaian saluts all gaian citizen. well....After trying other civ games, Im pretty
sure that smac/smax is the best.

I will attend the forum steadily later on. It's good to get know everyone.

wow im learning whole lot of thing here...

any special mod is used in this game?

	09-03-2005 13:34									#10
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No special mods, SMAX, fully patched.

Just some home rules, like prohibition to use "chop and drop" strategy.

	09-03-2005 20:09									#11
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Ah ok.

What does that rule do by the way?

	09-03-2005 20:37									#12
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Which rule?

	10-03-2005 00:55									#13
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The chop and drop? Refers to an inhabition of a popular strategy involving attacking bases with choppers, something prohibited in this game.

	10-03-2005 12:40									#14
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Upon opening our turn, there's a Spartan transport with a 5~-1-2 and a battle ogre on it between our lands and Hive lands, making no attempt to conceal itself.

	10-03-2005 12:44									#15
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quote: Upon opening our turn, there's a Spartan transport with a 5~-1-2 and a battle ogre on it between our lands and Hive lands, making no attempt to conceal itself.

Let the batalities begin!

	10-03-2005 13:56									#16
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Upon further review, our former is in fungus this turn, and so was probably not noticed by the Spartan transport. Furthermore, on 2161, it popped a sea pod in our harbor and disembarked a unit to pop another pod on our land. The Spartans have invaded our territory so soon after dismissing our protests regarding mapping our coast. We spotted them, but they don't know we've spotted them.

Furthermore, a lucky guess has shown an empty Spartan cruiser transport to be adjacent to our transport foil in the north. The cruiser is hiding in fungus and probably wanted to pass through the passage recently blocked by our foil. An empty cruiser suggests units were dropped off on our territory, but sensor networks limit their possible locations to a few tiles to the east of our transport foil.

For some reason, we also got forest growth messages for locations near 5 (presumably) Spartan bases.

	11-03-2005 01:41									#17
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I don't know if it is good place to ask this question but
are there any password(i think there must be...) on this
Democracy Team Game?
I'd like to open the game file on my pc. If there is any, can
someone teach me the password?swj300@hotmail.com

	11-03-2005 02:31									#18
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I've PMed you the password

	11-03-2005 09:33									#19
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I got it. Thanks freshman.

	11-03-2005 11:50									#20
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I think our best hope to counter the Spartans' mobility is air power. Garrisons aren't strong enough to resist attack, and in most cases Spartan rovers can stay out of range of our units until they're about to attack, particularly with amphibious units.

	11-03-2005 12:35									#21
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So we should arrange some deal with Morgan.

We're researching Env Econ which they have.
They also posess SFF.

Thus given right circumstances we could get D:AP in around 10 turns or so..

	11-03-2005 22:31									#22
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What do we have to offer them though?

	12-03-2005 01:20									#23
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To some extent, it's in the Morganites' interest that we be prickly to the Spartans. Should they gain much from attacking us, the Morganites would be much worse off. Also, of all the human factions, we're the least threatening to the Morganites, since we're so distant, and our paths to them go through the Spartans, the Hive, or the Angels.

	12-03-2005 01:53									#24
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Please note that the Spartan transport near our formenr is moving AWAY from us and towards the Hive. If those troops were going to be used against us, they would already have landed on our shores.

Let's not go overboard with getting hostile towards Sparta just yet.

Lets build some defensive probe teams ASAP, please. Let's not get infiltrated! HQ can build one now if we give it the borehole.

	12-03-2005 07:06									#25
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We haven't declared war. We just know its inevitable. And probably a lot sooner than that. And how do we know they won't turn around?

	14-03-2005 14:11									#26
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quote: Please note that the Spartan transport near our formenr is moving AWAY from us and towards the Hive

A Spartan Foil transport can move 5 moves per turn. What holds it from moving 4 to S and then 1 to N after evcountering our former?

	14-03-2005 19:37									#27
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They could have attacked us years earlier when we were less prepared for it. Why should they attack us now instead? If you were Sparta, would you want both Morgan and Gaia as mortal enemies for the rest of the game?

	14-03-2005 20:43									#28
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quote: They could have attacked us years earlier when we were less prepared for it. Why should they attack us now instead? If you were Sparta, would you want both Morgan and Gaia as mortal enemies for the rest of the game?

Well there are some points your post is missing:
1.We are better prepared.
But what about Sparta - they certainly are not only better prepared than us, but they have made a progress in these preparations which can't be compared to ours.
MCC + CN + Fundy + Missile weapons is a combo for which it is very hard to prepare:
Supreme mobility, supreme morale, supreme weapons.

What else you expect?
It is only one thing that could be worse now(possibly not to us, as we're far enough that they'll anyway use naval transport) - Air Power and I expect Sparta is pretty close to it.

2.Rest of the game. Did anyone say they will let us/Morgan survive?
They already made Uni submissive. Hive is too much of a chunk for them now - I bet they are going for PKs now. After that they'll make a decision. Whether it's Hive's time next, or any of the human factions.

	14-03-2005 22:07									#29
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Sorry for my *absence* from the gaian forums...been busy and had just the time for Pbems...
About Sparta, after reviewing what's happened, I think that they will follow the warpath: an attack. Why not? It wouldnt affect them that much...
Anyway. I'll try to keep up with DG more often!

	18-03-2005 17:54									#30
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On a completely unrelated topic, I was just reading over the ACDGIII rules set. Have we been taking advantage of this one? "Stockpiling in Build Queues allowed at any time"