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lord of the mark
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FUKCOV - Former United Kingdom Colony of Virginia
Dec 2000
time: 00:16
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Originally posted by DrSpike
LotM might be more interested if he knows it is free.  |
Now, now, im not That stingy
This gets to that CLASSIC question, what constrains your gaming - right now for me its time. Im not done even done with the human campaign in starcraft. I havent gone out and bought a new adventure game, despite my desire to be explore that genre, and the many suggestions people gave me. I have a craving to go back and fill out my historical TBS collection with Colonization, etc. Ive still got plenty of old games with gameplay left - in particular, since we're talking war games, i never got to the mid point of SM's Gettysburg, or started on SM's Antietam. Heck, I never finished all the campaigns on PG2.
And of course there are plenty of (legit) free games out there - the ones at the top of my list are the adventure games somebody suggested.
So I must say, getting PG, even for free, is not a priority
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lord of the mark
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FUKCOV - Former United Kingdom Colony of Virginia
Dec 2000
time: 00:16
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As to abandonware, im rethinking my position on that - largely cause I read somewhere that for a game company that WANTS to put a game into the public domain, but do so without endangering there other IP, the act of doing so is a non-trivial task, requiring significant lawyer time. Given that, I can see a stronger argument for the assumption that, in the case of a site (not to be named) where the siteowners will take down a game if the publisher complains, the games are truely abandoned, and not games where the publisher simply found it too much trouble to notify the siteowners(whew! what a sentence) more succinctly, abandonware, while a grey area, aint in the same category as piracy. So I might someday consider using a site like that - though a wargame is probably the last game i would get there, since its a genre that badly needs support, even the limited and indirect support that buying used games gives.
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lord of the mark
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FUKCOV - Former United Kingdom Colony of Virginia
Dec 2000
time: 00:16
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Originally posted by Rommel2D
I definitely prefer to pay for a program if it looks at all possible the developer is going to get any sort of positive feedback from it. I also bought SMGettysburg a couple years ago, sent in a check for the full manual as offered on the back of the installation guide, and had to follow up with Firaxis on it a couple times before they sent me a photo copy of the original in a generic office binder...  |
Well there ARE arguments that buying a used game contributes to the hobby. By keeping up a market for used games, it puts hands in the money of people who had bought the game new. They may well turn around and use that money to buy todays new games - even if they dont, the existence of a second hand market reduces the risk of buying new games, and removes a deterrent to doing so. However its a pretty indirect and limited effect, and i can see some people deciding to dismiss it.
As to legality, thats a pretty involved thing - gets to whether the abandonware sight has the obligation to get a statement the game is public domain, or, as they claim, simply offering to pull the game if the publisher objects is enough - theres also the issue of games owned by dead publishers, which conceivably COULD be claimed by a creditor. The industry disapproves of abandonware, and so a site supported by ads from the industry has to take a zero tolerance policy, but I can see that its a grey area, with some legal issues in dispute (here in the USA - law will differ elsewhere)
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Rommel2D
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ACS Staff Member / Hosted Site Admin
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Upper Midwest
Feb 2003
time: 23:16
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Originally posted by lord of the mark
This gets to that CLASSIC question, what constrains your gaming - right now for me its time. Im not done even done with the human campaign in starcraft. I havent gone out and bought a new adventure game, despite my desire to be explore that genre, and the many suggestions people gave me. I have a craving to go back and fill out my historical TBS collection with Colonization, etc. Ive still got plenty of old games with gameplay left - in particular, since we're talking war games, i never got to the mid point of SM's Gettysburg, or started on SM's Antietam. Heck, I never finished all the campaigns on PG2. |
I've never played these- it looks to me like PG2 and 3 are RTS? In case you aren't aware of it- the original Panzer General is TBS- vital to any historical collection. 
I'd be curious to know if anyone thinks there is a better TBS combat system out there. By better, I don't mean merely more complex. I played an XCOM demo a while back and, while interesting, it didn't appeal to me as much as games of a larger strategic scope.
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lord of the mark
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FUKCOV - Former United Kingdom Colony of Virginia
Dec 2000
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PG2 is definitely TBS, and my understanding is that PG3 is also, as well as other games in the 5 star series. PG2 is IIUC an incremental development over PG - look through the archives here, we've discussed the relative merits in the past.
Rommel was undoubtedly confused cause i mentioned SMG and SMA - both are real time, but not "RTS" (ie not C&C/warcraft clones - instead they are accurate wargames) They are however excellent games, with a high degree of historical accuracy, AND fun.
I really havent played all that many computer war games - The Operational Art of War, Combat Mission etc are some of the best - it depends in large part on what scale youre looking at - IIUC that was one of the unrealistic parts of PG - used an essentially tactical/operational level engine, but strategic level maps, etc. PG2 corrected that by using operational level maps, scenarios etc. IE battle of Sedan, not entire invasion of France, battle of Lillehammer, not entire Norway campaign. Its still unrealistic - even if you buy the prestige model, getting replacements when youre surrounded is pretty silly. PG is fun, perhaps one of the most fun wargame series ever made, and a great hook into wargamers - there are certainly more accurate systems, and some say theyre just as fun, though others dont.
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