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Sasson: Some outposts built on private Palestinian land
By Akiva Eldar, Haaretz Correspondent, and Haaretz Service

Some of the illegal settlement outposts in the West Bank were both planned and funded by the Housing Ministry, including a number of those built on private Palestinian land, the author of a report on the West Bank outposts told reporters Wednesday.
The report, submitted by attorney Talia Sasson to Prime Minister Ariel Sharon on Tuesday night, essentially confirms longstanding complaints by Palestinians and activist groups like Peace Now that successive Israeli governments, including after the Oslo Accords, approved and financed for decades the establishment of outpost settlements on privately-owned Palestinian land.

Sasson also told reporters at Wednesday's press conference at the Prime Minister's Office in Jerusalem that a number of government ministries had failed to hand over some of the information she requested.

"I was unable to access all the data I asked for from government ministries," Sasson said, adding that the list of outposts that appears in the report is not a complete one. "I do not have a full picture of all the outposts," she said.

In light of the severe accusations, Sasson recommended that the Housing Ministry be stripped of authority over construction of settlements in the West Bank, and that this power be transferred to the cabinet.

She also called on Attorney General Menachem Mazuz to look into the involvement of government employees in the establishment of illegal outposts, an prosecute the offenders.

Sasson said the complacency in unauthorized settlement outpost construction was not limited to the Housing Ministry alone, accusing the IDF Civil Administration and the Defense Ministry of involvement.

According to Sasson, the Defense Ministry must approve any trailors being placed in the West Bank - which in fact it did, in contradiction of the defense minister's instructions.

Sasson said she does not know whether the ministers themselves knew what their ministries were doing, and that it is possible other ministries were also involved in the outpost construction.

Sasson also refrained from mentioning any of the ministers by name, with the exception of Justice Minister Tzipi Livni, whom she credited with immediately halting the funding of caravans destined for outposts when she became housing minister.

Following the report's publication, Yahad Chairman Yossi Beilin called for a formal government investigation into the matter - to which ministries will not legally be able to refuse to provide information.

Infrastructure Minister Benjamin Ben-Eliezer called on the government to take "clear and drastic" action against the outposts, Army Radio reported.

The cabinet will discuss the report in its weekly meeting on Sunday.

The U.S. administration warned Israel on Tuesday that its failure to keep its promise to remove all outposts established in the West Bank since March 2001 will harm relations between the countries, and could have an impact on American aid to Israel.

At their last meeting, U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice told Dov Weisglass, the prime minister's advisor, that President Bush expects Jerusalem to take immediate action based on the conclusions and recommendations in Sasson's report on the outposts.

The Sasson report also confirms the findings of the State Comptroller in his 2003 report, in which the defense minister and his advisor on settlements are said to have either actively or passively enabled the transfer of mobile homes to new outpost sites.

Sasson also confirms the comptroller's findings that funds sent to settlements for security, road paving, electricity and water, lighting and other infrastructure needs went to illegal outposts.


http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/spages/549577.html

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That's productive.

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Exactly, itīs like giving with one hand while taking it away with the other... Some concessions theyīre making

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you mean, the government report? the one ordered by the government? Oh man, the Israeli government is sooooo busted.


DAMN EVIL ISRAELIS TRYING TO STOP ILLEGAL SETTLEMENTS BEING FUNDED THROUGH BUREAUCRATIC LOOPHOLES.

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Eehh...Iīm applauding the report and itīs disclosure on the loopholes. But all the reports in the world wonīt make a difference if there isnīt any real effort put into the settler relocation programme.

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"settler relocation program"

Removing the army and leaving the settlers

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Well, thatīs a solution I guess. But they are in most cases on stolen Palestinian land, so...

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No they're not. There is PLENTY of government land all around, and the settlement agriculture is not land-intensive: greenhouses and livestock.

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Are we talking about the same thing here?

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There is PLENTY of government land all around


In the West Bank ?

Palestinian government perhaps?

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I am not talking about those illegal "settlements": they're usually a container/ caravan placed with a generator on a hill somewhere in Bumf*ck, West Bank. They are just there to set presence by the radical settlers. I am talking about the "settler relocation" program, which is small villages of ~500 people. You know, the ones built on "stolen palestinian land".

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In the West Bank ?

Palestinian government perhaps?


Since such a government never existed on most of the territories, this is bunk. It would be more logical to say "ottoman govt." or something. But truly, when a piece of land gets captured, all government land switches hands.

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Well, Iīm talking about the settlements on the occupied territories... Ah, **** it. I donīt have anything interesting to say on this subject anymore...

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Why not?

It is an interesting subject. It was government land. Before 67 it was owned by the jordanian government. prior to that, it was owned by the British government. Prior to that by the Turkish one.

Not all of it, but a lot of it.

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I mean the whole Israel/Palestine subject. I just had an serious attack of I-donīt-give-a-****-anymore...

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But truly, when a piece of land gets captured, all government land switches hands


Yes, and you can build military bases and stuff to facilitate the occupation or whatever. Not towns filled with your preferred ethnic group.

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Yes, and you can build military bases and stuff to facilitate the occupation or whatever. Not towns filled with your preferred ethnic group.


What ethnic group? I am sure there are non-jews in the settlements.

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he probably means religion, there are arabs,semites,space aliens from mars,etc of all strips there right?

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But truly, when a piece of land gets captured, all government land switches hands.


So when the Palestinian state finally comes into being, they will get all this land?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/mi...ast/4328817.stm

Just weeks after that attempted mass theft of Palestinian properties in East Jerusalem...

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