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I would appreciate some recommendations of good bands or good music blogs. I really haven't gotten any new music since I moved to Korea, so anything that's been put out within the last few years would be great. I think its time I got back to expanding my music collections. What I'm looking for:

-Music that's been produced since 2003, don't have any really.
-Specifically music that isn't quite as grating as a lot of what I used to listen to in college ( pure screaming ) since the kind of music you want to listen to when you want to unwind after forcing kids to listen to your big mouth all day is different than the kind of music you want after being forced to listen to other people talk at you all day.
-Something relatively mellow and lowkey in a vaguely-Fugazi. I've been listening to an insane amount of Fugazi recently, they're great for post-grading headaches.
-Relatively melodic hardcore punk, lots of shouting is fine just not constant screaming. AFI, Thought Riot, Thrice, Thursday (only emoish band I can stand) and one I've been listening to recently called Dead Poetic are all good stuff.
-I don't have enough Metal. Have been enjoying Iced Earth recently.
-No goddam pop, pop is evil.
-No folk, emo or other annoyingly-sentimental garbage.
-Non-English music that isn't strictly derivative of American/English music. I specifically need to expand my Rai and Bhangra collections, but anything original or interesting would be welcome.
-Entertainingly wierd music like, say, The Cramps or Captain Beefheart.
-Pretty much anything interesting/different/non-pop.

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Maybe.. NOFX, Yellowcard, Blackflag, T.S.O.L... you ought to check those out.. I'm not sure if they meet your criteria exactly but those are my favorite bands.

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Maybe.. NOFX, Yellowcard, Blackflag, T.S.O.L... you ought to check those out.. I'm not sure if they meet your criteria exactly but those are my favorite bands.

NOFX (except few We're the Brews, can't not love that song)
Blackflag
Yellowcard and T.S.O.L, don't know 'em. Are they pop-punk?

thanks

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NOFX (except few We're the Brews, can't not love that song)
Blackflag
Yellowcard and T.S.O.L, don't know 'em. Are they pop-punk?

thanks


Sorry I wasn't much of a help. Well I tried. Most music I listen to is heavy metal/industrial rock. Not the type you are looking for...

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KELLY CLARKSON BABY!!!! SINCE U BEEN GONE, BREAKAWAY, BEAUTIFUL DISASTER, ANYTIME ALL GREAT AMERICA CLASSICS!!!!!!!!!

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Sorry I wasn't much of a help. Well I tried. Most music I listen to is heavy metal/industrial rock. Not the type you are looking for...

Nothing wrong with metal, and the only industrial I have is Einsturzende Neubaten (sp?).

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Dying Fetus

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YOU CANT FIGHT IT

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Try "American Idiot" by Green Day. Absolutely fabulous album. Not sure if Green Day is 'hard' enough for ya, but thought I'd throw it out there.

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Have to second Imran.

Lawrence that was Leanne Rymes.

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-Non-English music that isn't strictly derivative of American/English music. I specifically need to expand my Rai and Bhangra collections, but anything original or interesting would be welcome.


*stares in a strangely amphibian way at the monitor*

*slowly, deliberately licks lips*

Well. Um. Considering you like Bhangra and Raï, I assume you're after somewhat uptempo party music for the most part, original as a genre but thoroughly modern and with a wide set of influences.

Er. I could mail you a CD of favourites if you like. Or I could recommend genres and artists. Any particluar sounds you don't like?

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The Horrorist - Flesh is The Fever

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*stares in a strangely amphibian way at the monitor*

*slowly, deliberately licks lips*

Well. Um. Considering you like Bhangra and Ra? I assume you're after somewhat uptempo party music for the most part, original as a genre but thoroughly modern and with a wide set of influences.

Er. I could mail you a CD of favourites if you like. Or I could recommend genres and artists. Any particluar sounds you don't like?


Well its not that I especially like uptempo party music, its that that's there so very very little good "original as a genre but thoroughly modern" non-western music out there. I remember your thread asking for recommendations about modern but orginal Asian music and the responces you get about how little is out there. Basically anything in that category that's any good is OK, but Rai and Bhangra specifically are both good things.

Hell, I'll take modern un-orginal stuff too as long as it isn't standard derivative pop dreck.

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Chaba Zahouania : Nights Without Sleeping


Moroccan gravelly voiced singer, very, very sexy voice. She has as far as I can recall, never been photographed, so don't be deceived by the 'Arabian Nights' woman on the cover.


Songhai : Ketama

Toumani Diabate & Danny Thompson amongst others, formed a group which explored the links between African, North African and Spanish music. Way better than the Gipsy Kings, and not French.


Les Negresses Vertes: Mlah

French collective, combining boulevardier, Pogues & indie to great effect. Terrific live.


Sheila Chandra: The Zen Kiss

If you want to unwind in an Anglo-Bhangra-Celtic way after a hard day torturing children, then this might be a good way. She has explored the vocal possibilities of music from the Indian sub-continent, Islam and Celtic traditions.


Marianne Faithfull: 20th Century Blues/An Evening In The Weimar Republic


Marianne goes bluesy, Weill/Brecht & moody. No longer the angel voiced ex convent girl, this Marianne has been down in the depths and crawled out of the wreckage.


Snakefarm: Songs For My Funeral

Traditional folk & blues updated with a trip hop state of mind.

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Metal/Hard Rock you may want to check out: The new Judas Priest album (and the old ones as well, if you haven´t done this already), Masterplan, Nightwish, Demons & Wizards (Iced Earth/Blind Guardian combo), Iron Savior, Monster Magnet...

Industrial/Industrial Metal: Rammstein, Nine Inch Nails, Ministry, Frontline Assembly

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Oh, I disagree that there's very little. But then I'm biased.

A brief sweep of "the global south" from west to east, excepting Algerian Raï:

Brazil: Funk, or Funk Carioca, or Baile Funk, the music of Rio de Janiero's Shanty-town Favelas. Vaguely reminicent of Miami Bass but more rhythmic and guttural. Download some here

Jamaica: Dancehall, today's electronic post-reggae music. Should be extremely easy to get hold of compared to most others, collections like Strictly the Best and The Biggest Ragga Dancehall Items are stocked in most major cities.

Puerto Rico: Reggaeton, the local dancehall variant, which kicks ass. Big names include Ivy Queen, Tego Calderón, Don Omar, Panamaian El Chombo...

Trinidad: Soca, happy party music in the traditional caribbean mode, updated with samples and synthesisers. VP records' compilation series' D'Soca Zone and Soca Gold are your best bets here. I'm generally against compilations by record companies without local connections, but the selection on Astralwerks' Lif Up Yuh Leg An Trample seems okay, if pointless.

Trinidad again: Chutney! The world's most naturally eclectic music style is this mixture of Soca and Hindi Pop. This compo is good (though western-issued) but I also recommend more updated soca-chutney sounds by the likes of Ricky Jai.

Senegal: Senegalese Hip-Hop rules. Daara J, Positive Black Soul and Pee Froiss are generally considered the forerunners. If you like French Hip-Hop like MC Solaar, this is its grittier, more streetwise cousin.

Ghana: Hip-life. Actually I've never heard any Hip-life myself tohugh it's meant to kick ass with its mixture of Hip-Hop and Highlife. Anyone got hold of any please PM me.

South Africa: Kwaito! House music slowed down to half-pace and rapped over in all 13 official languages. Kicks ass, download some Mandoza or Mzambiya or Arthur (Mafokate) if you don't believe me.

Egypt/Lebanon: Arabic Pop. Very modern these days, though I can't give you specific recommendations. I usually just pass by my local immigrants' market and pick up the latest hit CDs, which I can't read the labels off.

Turkey: Turkpop. Very dramatic, very cool. Ebru Gundes is my favourite but Candan Ercetin, even Tarkan has done some well good stuff.

Tanzania: Bongo Flava! Mzibo.net has a good download section.

India: Filmi/Bollywood music. Look out especially for the underrated eighties stuff, with R.D. Burman being by far the best composer. Insane influence mania from Flamenco to classic Hollywood.

Thailand: Lukthung, the Country-influenced local pop music, and Morlam, it's funkier, more psychedelic laotian-language cousin. If you ever get hold of any Heavy-Metal-influenced Morlam Sing, contact me.

Indonesia: Dangdut, fun fun fun pop music with decided Filmi influences. Love the stuff. Rhoma Irama is the big name here.

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Oh, I disagree that there's very little. But then I'm biased.

Correction: in my very personal experience there's a disappointingly high ratio of derivative unoriginal pop : original good stuff in modern non-English language music.

Surprised you didn't mention Antiguan Zouk, not my favorite music by a long shot but very listenable.

Thanks for the listing, I'll get to work on it shortly.

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Zouk was fun for a while in the eighties, today it's unfortunately slotted into the inevitable twin groupings of "folk music for earnest middle-aged westerners" and "some kind of second-rate, ill-produced american R&B". A lot of genres end up that way but for every geographical location that turns sour there's generally a new, awesome local genre round the corner.

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One I forgot: Merenhouse or Merengue Rap, from the Dominican Republic and/or New York. Ilegales, Projecto Uno, Fulanito.

In the category of "local commercial music you wouldn't necessarily hear much of on mainstream radio" I'd also include american styles like Crunk, Screw, Bounce and Ghetto-Tech, as well as british Grime and Bhangra.

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Oh and a web search has turned up a small mixed-bag directory of Hiplife MP3s that wasn't there last time I checked:

http://www.accra.nl/stuff/music/Ghana%20Hiplife/

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"-Entertainingly wierd music like, say, The Cramps or Captain Beefheart.

the only industrial I have is Einsturzende Neubaten"

You have pretty good taste judging by these, but I don't have anything really new to recommend as I'm trying to build a respectable jazz collection these days.

If you haven't ever checked out the Butthole Surfers, I guess I'll recommend Wierd Revolution, it's fun and funny.

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Turbonegro is also good. Whacky norwegian stoner rock

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Pop > you

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Are you open-minded towards electronic music?

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-Music that's been produced since 2003, don't have any really.


Patrick Wolf, Bright Eyes, Bloc Party, Joanna Newsom.

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-Specifically music that isn't quite as grating as a lot of what I used to listen to in college ( pure screaming ) since the kind of music you want to listen to when you want to unwind after forcing kids to listen to your big mouth all day is different than the kind of music you want after being forced to listen to other people talk at you all day.


For unwinding at the end of the day- "Neon Golden" by The Notwist, or anything by Lali Puna.

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-Something relatively mellow and lowkey in a vaguely-Fugazi. I've been listening to an insane amount of Fugazi recently, they're great for post-grading headaches.
-Relatively melodic hardcore punk, lots of shouting is fine just not constant screaming. AFI, Thought Riot, Thrice, Thursday (only emoish band I can stand) and one I've been listening to recently called Dead Poetic are all good stuff.
-I don't have enough Metal. Have been enjoying Iced Earth recently.


Get the latest Killing Joke album. You'll love it.

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-Non-English music that isn't strictly derivative of American/English music. I specifically need to expand my Rai and Bhangra collections, but anything original or interesting would be welcome.


Molly recommends an excellent one in Sheila Chandra. You also need some Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan

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-Entertainingly wierd music like, say, The Cramps or Captain Beefheart.
-Pretty much anything interesting/different/non-pop.


"Defixiones:Will and Testament" by Diamanda Galas, if you want a challenge (it's a double-CD concept album about the Armenian genocide and is about as far removed from "Easy Listening" as it's possible to get.
Check out Wolf Eyes, The Third Eye Foundation and just about anything by Julian Cope.

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A few more albums I thought of when rummaging through the c.d. collection:

Black Star Liner: Yemen Cutta Connection

Craig Armstrong: Piano Works

Laurent Garnier: Unreasonable Behaviour

St Germain: Boulevard

Arab Strap: Mad For Sadness

Wim Mertens: As Hay In The Sun

Muzsikas: The Bartok Album

Afro-Celt Sound System: Volume 2: Release

Trans-Global Underground: Impossible Broadcasting

Morcheeba: Fragments of Freedom

Cabaret Voltaire: Conform to Deform

Magazine: Real Life

Natacha Atlas: Diaspora

Toumani Diabate: Kaira

Anne Dudley: Ancient and Modern

William Orbit: Strange Cargoes: The Best of

Caroline Lavelle: Moorlough Shore

Eliza Carthy: Red Rice

Towering Inferno: Kaddish

Alpha: ComeFromHeaven

Coil: Unreleased Themes From Hellraiser

Roy Budd: Soundtrack for Get Carter

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Coil: Unreleased Themes From Hellraiser



There's a better intro to Coil in "The golden hare with the voice of silver". And now I'm going to have another mope about John Balnce dying.

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Got my hands on emule since kazaa lite wasn't cutting it and I'm sure as hell not going to find anything good in a store here, have been DLing hundreds of MP3s and am working on sorting through them so far.

So far:

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OK, time to feed Molly's new recs into emule.

Here's what's I'd kept out of what I've DLed so far (still a lot of backlog) based on recs from this thread (seems I don't have too much in common music-taste wise with Laz...):

Admiral T
Butthole Surfers
El Chombo
Cheb Abdou
Da Weasel
Don Omar
Ebru Grundes
Frontline Assembly
Fulanito
Ivy Queen
Judas Priest
Killing Joke
Les Negresses
Los Ilegales
Mandoza
Mr. Vegas
N.O.R.E.
Roxy Music

Thanks all. Oh and Snapcase, your recs are immensely appreciated, mind giving me a few band recs for the genras that you didn't mention any bands for.

 
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