13-03-2005 17:17									#31
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident perhaps they are just good actors then. I knew this one mormon woman from work. Easily the best person I have known. She never even cursed!.She had 4 kids, she was a sweet lady. it's funny, because I tried very hard to restrict my cussing around her. I wish I could stop cussing. The only people who ever cared for me were religious people. everyone else treats me like I'm the worst scum of the earth.

I'm not religious and I never treated you like scum. I still consider you a friend.

I do have a problem with cursing to much though and I tend to drop f-bombs like it was napalm in Vietnam. I've had several friends comment on my potty mouth but I just can't seem to break this nasty habit. I blame the Army and years spent in the military.

	13-03-2005 17:37									#32
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quote: Originally posted by Urban Ranger Sure, there are some very nice religious people, but you are generalising way too hastily.

God forbid we should generalize any group of people as nice.

	13-03-2005 17:49									#33
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Yeah, people are ****ers.

	13-03-2005 18:06									#34
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quote: Originally posted by Snotty I remember someone from here once saying 'armed society is polite society'. Must have just been a troll tough

That's a Heinlein quote.

Oh, and for the record, I'm irreligious and I do treat Diss like scum.

	13-03-2005 21:15									#35
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This guy was a regular church member. Apparently something about a recent sermon set him off. I wonder if the church members will forgive him.

	13-03-2005 22:09									#36
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quote: Originally posted by Urban Ranger I don't think there is such a thing as "atheist freak." It's just not something you go crazy with.

Oh, let's not make such generalizations. I've certainly encountered a few extremely strident athiests that go into the "freak" category. My brother was actually rather obnoxiously strident about it at times, but thankfully my sister-in-law seems to have mellowed him out (and she isn't religious, either).

	13-03-2005 22:20									#37
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quote: Originally posted by DaShi God forbid we should generalize any group of people as nice.

I think the generalization he was referring to was that religious people were "more moral" than anyone else.

If you define morality by religious tenets, well then, yeah, but that's a big circular argument. If you define morality by the norms of society, I don't think religious people are any more "moral" than non-religious folk. In fact, it seems to me today's worst cases of immoral behavior are coming out of the religious segments of society (Catholic priests, anyone?)

	13-03-2005 22:22									#38
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What does relegion have to do with morality? Morals are instilled into you by your family and surroundings not just your church. Moral are visions of right and wrong. Ethics and morals are a phlisophy teaching not a relegious one.

	13-03-2005 22:28									#39
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quote: Originally posted by Mrs. Tuberski What does relegion have to do with morality? Morals are instilled into you by your family and surroundings not just your church. Moral are visions of right and wrong. Ethics and morals are a phlisophy teaching not a relegious one.

	13-03-2005 22:29									#40
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quote: Originally posted by Snotty But surely you cant pigeon hole all religious people like that? Its like saying all computer users are geeks

Own goal.

	13-03-2005 23:06									#41
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Workplace shootings, school shootings, church shootings.... are there any places where this kind of thing hasn't happened yet?

	13-03-2005 23:07									#42
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quote: Originally posted by Smiley Workplace shootings, school shootings, church shootings.... are there any places where this kind of thing hasn't happened yet?

The military?

	13-03-2005 23:07									#43
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Congress?

	13-03-2005 23:08									#44
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quote: Originally posted by Last Conformist Congress?

IIRC, a Congressman was nearly beaten to death with a cane there.

	13-03-2005 23:10									#45
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Crippled, weren't he?

	13-03-2005 23:11									#46
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quote: Originally posted by Last Conformist Congress?

Some nut ran into the Capitol with a gun a few years ago, actually.

http://www.cnn.com/US/9807/24/dc.shooting.03/

	13-03-2005 23:12									#47
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For about 3 years, yes.

	13-03-2005 23:12									#48
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Actually the killer must have been an atheist - or extremely stupid.

You don't go committing murder in a church and then committing suicide if you believe in god...

	13-03-2005 23:15									#49
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quote: Originally posted by MOBIUS Actually the killer must have been an atheist - or extremely stupid.

You don't read much, do you?

	13-03-2005 23:16									#50
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And you're more stupid than I thought...

	13-03-2005 23:28									#51
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Chegitz Guevara his discovered the error of his ways...

	13-03-2005 23:34									#52
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara The military?

They do "fraggings". Is that better in some way?

	13-03-2005 23:38									#53
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The man had to be seriously mentally disturbed to do such a thing not an atheist.

	13-03-2005 23:38									#54
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara Crippled, weren't he?

In the 1950s a Puerto Rican shot up either the House or the Senate.

In the pre-Civil Wars day a representative from South Carolina beat up a representative from Massachussetts over something the later said about the former's father during a heated debate over slavery.

	13-03-2005 23:41									#55
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quote: Originally posted by Mrs. Tuberski The man had to be seriously mentally disturbed to do such a thing not an atheist.

Still going to hell - unless there is a clause about seriously mentally disturbed people I don't know about in the bible...

	13-03-2005 23:57									#56
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quote: Originally posted by MOBIUS Still going to hell - unless there is a clause about seriously mentally disturbed people I don't know about in the bible...

Be that as it may, atheist wont being going to hell, since they dont believe that hell exists. I can say this because atheist dot believe god exists and with out a god there isnt a hell. In all logic, which is another form of phliosphy teaching, the man was mentally distrubed in one form or another. Important for me to state. Im not an atheist, Im a non practicing catholic.

	14-03-2005 00:18									#57
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Actually if god exists and the guy 's an atheist - he goes to hell.

EVERYONE who doesn't believe in god goes to hell!

Atheists, jews, muslims, buddhists, primitives in jungles who haven't even heard of him yet - all off to hell...

As for nutters. Hell.

God is a pretty righteous dude, you don't just go into church shooting up his flock and committing suicide and NOT go to hell even if you're a nutter or an atheist...

	14-03-2005 00:22									#58
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Mobius going nuts. There is no such thing as hell. And that reasoning.. only christians are better then everyone.. what a load of crap. You are the type of christian that disgusts me.

	14-03-2005 00:25									#59
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*points at Gianinny and laughs*

	14-03-2005 00:27									#60
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Laughs? I made a valid statement.. you christians seriously think you are better then everyone.. you aren't. And you will come to that realization.