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Dis is offline Dis
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just disregard this entire post. It appears the guy was part of a cult.

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20050313/D88POCR81.html

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WTF is up with all the mass shootings over the past couple of weeks.

Something is in the air.

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I'm really surprised you athiests haven't jumped on this story. You guys are always so quick to point out the failings of religious people.


Erm, nice try, but that's not how it goes. Usually it's the religious nuts jumping on us first, and us just defending ourselves. See Mr. Nice Guy's most recent thread as proof.

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I would really like to know what was going through that guys thoughts.

I remember someone from here once saying 'armed society is polite society'. Must have just been a troll tough

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yes, but if the people at the church were carrying shotguns, this would have never happened.

contrary to popular belief, most americans do not own guns, and don't know how to use them. Most have never even seen a gun.

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I'd like to get a 50 cal on my freakin car sometimes though.

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I'm really surprised you athiests haven't jumped on this story. You guys are always so quick to point out the failings of religious people.


Um, we don't. We point out failings of religions.

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I thought when I heard this story, it would be an athiest freak for once taking it out on religious people. but as usual it's a religious freak.


I don't think there is such a thing as "atheist freak." It's just not something you go crazy with.

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yes, but if the people at the church were carrying shotguns, this would have never happened.

contrary to popular belief, most americans do not own guns, and don't know how to use them. Most have never even seen a gun.



But it would be much less likely to have happened if guns were not freely and legally availiable. I guess I misunderstood the polite society comment, I didnt realise it meant you had to bring a gun to church

Knife attacks can still end in mass killings, but easier to stop surely? I remember one teacher getting cut up when she stopped this guy. Still she survived it though....dont remember the name of the school for the life of me though....?

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I was about to post something on this but I do not think it is right that you would try to use it for personal benefit, as you have done diss.

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personal benefit?

I think not.

Some of the best and most moral people I have ever known are relgious.

religious people are on the average, more moral than everyone else.

Note: that doesn't include myself as I'm not relgious, I've done some bad things in my life.

unfortunately, religious people seem to be nuttier than everyone else. I can't explain why this is.

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Religious people are NOT more moral, as far as I can tell. They are judgemental and hideous. I find that the best and most moral people are in fact either agnostic or atheist.

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Religious people are NOT more moral, as far as I can tell. They are judgemental and hideous. I find that the best and most moral people are in fact either agnostic or atheist.


perhaps they are just good actors then.

I knew this one mormon woman from work. Easily the best person I have known. She never even cursed!.She had 4 kids, she was a sweet lady. it's funny, because I tried very hard to restrict my cussing around her. I wish I could stop cussing.

The only people who ever cared for me were religious people. everyone else treats me like I'm the worst scum of the earth.

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perhaps they are just good actors then.


Good actors? Oh please.

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I knew this one mormon woman from work. Easily the best person I have known. She never even cursed!.She had 4 kids, she was a sweet lady.

The only people who ever cared for me were religious people. everyone else treats me like I'm the worst scum of the earth.


Religious people are some of the most horrible people I have ever met. They are the most judgemental. They may not curse, but they are the most rude. I have been treated like crap by people like them.

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But surely you cant pigeon hole all religious people like that? Its like saying all computer users are geeks

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One gets on with religious folks, the other doesn't. It sounds to me like one of them is making a mistake.

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But surely you cant pigeon hole all religious people like that? Its like saying all computer users are geeks


Oh I'm not. I'm just saying a big experience of mine with religious people (the more uber-religious) has been highly negative.

Dashi: Whom exactly?

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Oh I'm not. I'm just saying a big experience of mine with religious people (the more uber-religious) has been highly negative.

Dashi: Whom exactly?


that's only because you are gay .

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that's only because you are gay .


I don't disclose that fact.

If you meet me, you won't know unless I told you or you asked.

I can't stand uber-religious people who think they are better then everyone in the world.

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Oh I'm not. I'm just saying a big experience of mine with religious people (the more uber-religious) has been highly negative.

Dashi: Whom exactly?


I dunno, who do you think?

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I dunno, who do you think?


I don't know. But if you are referring to me, why would I be making a mistake?

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It's too bad Jesus wasn't gay. Then perhaps they wouldn't have that thing about men lying with other men in the bible. That's one thing I hate about religious people is their anti-gay stance.

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They say this man was attending the church service. It's not like they kicked him out. So it's not like those guys who lose their job and come back to take revenge.

He must have had some motive to do this.

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everyone else treats me like I'm the worst scum of the earth.


why?

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why?


Well I'll say one thing.. I don't treat him like that..

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Well I'll say one thing.. I don't treat him like that..


actually I meant people in real life. Occasionally I go out of the house and interact with real humans (not that you guys aren't real, you just aren't visible).

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actually I meant people in real life. Occasionally I go out of the house and interact with real humans (not that you guys aren't real, you just aren't visible).


Well I just feel i'm respected by people like me (not religious types).. maybe that's just me then..

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Some of the best and most moral people I have ever known are relgious.

religious people are on the average, more moral than everyone else.


Sure, there are some very nice religious people, but you are generalising way too hastily.

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Of course religious people are moral, otherwise their god would hurt them in various very very nasty ways

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I dunno, some of them gods are quite nasty themselves.

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yes, but if the people at the church were carrying shotguns, this would have never happened.

contrary to popular belief, most americans do not own guns, and don't know how to use them. Most have never even seen a gun.


Yep, I've never owned a gun nor have I felt a need to own a gun. I do know perfectly well how to use both a pistol and a rifle and I used to routinely qualify with 37 or 38 out of 40 on the Army's basic rifle marksmanship course. I guess I've just seen enough guns in my life that I don't feel any need to keep one in my home.

 
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