13-03-2005 20:13									#1
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I know that this is all just vanilla but my theory is that vanilla is why we pay $39.99 for these toys at all. Without the vanilla all we're doing is math homework.

NEway, in Civ³ (i.e. Civ x Civ x Civ), Albert Einstein is America's first (???) scientific leader. However, if I didn't know better, it seems like Einstein never left Deutschland.

http://www.einsteinjahr.de

So the question is, should he be an American SGL or a German SGL (not to mention the animated graphic for EVERYONE'S SGLs for all of history...)?

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	14-03-2005 01:46									#2
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German SGL, he formulated most of his theories before he escaped Nazi Germany.

	14-03-2005 01:48									#3
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Damn DPs

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quote: Originally posted by Odin Damn DPs

Sure, you just wanted another +1...

actually, I think there shouldn't be scientific leaders in Civ4... or if there are, make it more random. I don't like the idea of just replaying history.

	14-03-2005 08:16									#5
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I would say America, because that is where he ended up.

What does 'vanilla' mean? I know what vanilla SMAC or vanilla Civ 3 is, but in this reference do you mean 'flavour'?

	14-03-2005 12:37									#6
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Germany for the same reasons mentioned in the first posting.
His most important works were finished when he left germany.

But generally I“m more with Sava,
thinking that the names of the scientific leaders shouldn“t be hardwired to any special civilization.

	14-03-2005 19:12									#7
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Banana, and a prize to the thread starter for the least important question of the month...

	14-03-2005 21:27									#8
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Actually, he just made it in time to get a few responses.

Today is Einstein's birthday and this year marks the centenary of the publication of the paper in which he proposed the special theory of relativity.

	16-03-2005 01:36									#9
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American. It was much closer to his political philosphy than Nazi Germany. That certainly corrosponds to the idea of Nationality.

	16-03-2005 23:22									#10
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I voted for the Banana option (the first time I ever did) because Einstein disliked both the German nationalism and McCarthy's fight against "un-American" things under which he had to suffer too. As he said himself (before his theory of relativity was proven right): "If it works, the Germans will say I'm German, and the French will say, I'm a citizen of the world. If it doesn't, the French will say I'm German and the Germans that I'm Jewish."

	17-03-2005 03:22									#11
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realpolitic:
1- Einstein's innovative ideas were not on the political field
2- Nazism is not inherent to Germany. It's like if you equate Germany's culture as a whole to a movement that stays a number of years until 45

	19-03-2005 04:36									#12
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Einstein wrote FDR to build Abombs to use against Germany. IMHO, that's enough antiGerman sentiment to call him American.

	19-03-2005 04:38									#13
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More like a anti-nazi really. But him being regarded as American is totally okay for me.

	19-03-2005 13:26									#14
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of course... Bananaramans

that way no one gets him?

Lets not forget Newton/Kepler/Hawkings