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I don't usually like Naomi Klein (disclaimer: I'd still hit it ) but I thought this hit the spot.

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Brand USA is in trouble, so take a lesson from Big Mac

Instead of changing his foreign policy, President Bush is changing the story

Naomi Klein
Monday March 14, 2005
The Guardian

Last Tuesday, George Bush delivered a major address on his plan to fight terrorism with democracy in the Arab world. On the same day, McDonald's launched a massive advertising campaign urging Americans to fight obesity by eating healthily and exercising. Any similarities between McDonald's "Go Active! American Challenge" and Bush's "Go Democratic! Arabian Challenge" are purely coincidental.

Sure, there is a certain irony in being urged to get off the couch by the company that popularised the "drive-thru", helpfully allowing customers to consume a bagged heart attack without having to get out of the car and walk to the counter. And there is a similar irony to Bush urging the people of the Middle East to remove "the mask of fear" because "fear is the foundation of every dictatorial regime", when that fear is the direct result of US decisions to install and arm the regimes that have systematically terrorised for decades. But since both campaigns are exercises in rebranding, that means facts are besides the point.

The Bush administration has long been enamoured of the idea that it can solve complex policy challenges by borrowing cutting-edge communications tools from its heroes in the corporate world. The Irish rock star Bono has recently been winning unlikely fans in the White House by framing world poverty as an opportunity for US politicians to become better marketers. "Brand USA is in trouble ... it's a problem for business," Bono warned at the World Economic Forum in Davos. The solution is "to redescribe ourselves to a world that is unsure of our values".

The Bush administration wholeheartedly agrees, as evidenced by the orgy of redescription that now passes for American foreign policy. Faced with an Arab world enraged by the US occupation of Iraq and its blind support for Israel, the solution is not to change these brutal policies: it is to "change the story".

Brand USA's latest story was launched on January 30, the day of the Iraqi elections, complete with a catchy tag line ("purple power"), instantly iconic imagery (purple fingers) and, of course, a new narrative about America's role in the world, helpfully told and retold by the White House's unofficial brand manager, the New York Times columnist Thomas Friedman. "Iraq has been reframed from a story about Iraqi 'insurgents' trying to liberate their country from American occupiers and their Iraqi 'stooges' to a story of the overwhelming Iraqi majority trying to build a democracy, with US help, against the wishes of Iraqi Ba'athist fascists and jihadists."

This new story is so contagious, we are told, that it has set off a domino effect akin to the fall of the Berlin wall and the collapse of communism. (Although in the "Arabian spring" the only wall in sight - Israel's apartheid wall - pointedly stays up.) As with all branding campaigns, the power is in the repetition, not in the details. Obvious non sequiturs (is Bush taking credit for Arafat's death?) and screeching hypocrisies (occupiers against occupation!) just mean it's time to tell the story again, only louder and more slowly, obnoxious-tourist style. Even so, with Bush now claiming that "Iran and other nations have an example in Iraq", it seems worth focusing on the reality of the Iraqi example.

The state of emergency was just renewed for its fifth month and Human Rights Watch reports that torture is "systematic" in Iraqi jails. The Italian journalist Giuliana Sgrena's double nightmare provides a window into the pincer of terror in which average Iraqis are trapped: daily life is a navigation between the fear of being kidnapped or killed by fellow Iraqis and the fear of being gunned down at a US checkpoint.

Meanwhile, the ongoing wrangling over who will form Iraq's next government, despite the United Iraqi Alliance being the clear winner, points to an electoral system designed by Washington that is less than democratic. Terrified at the prospect of an Iraq ruled by the majority of Iraqis, the former chief US envoy, Paul Bremer, wrote election rules that gave the US-friendly Kurds 27% of the seats in the national assembly, even though they make up just 15% of the population.

Skewing matters further, the US-authored interim constitution requires that all major decisions have the support of two-thirds or, in some cases, three-quarters of the assembly - an absurdly high figure that gives the Kurds the power to block any call for foreign troop withdrawal, any attempt to roll back Bremer's economic orders, and any part of a new constitution.

Iraqi Kurds have a legitimate claim to independence, as well as very real fears of being ethnically targeted. But through its alliance with the Kurds, the Bush administration has effectively given itself a veto over Iraq's democracy - and it appears to be using it to secure a contingency plan should Iraqis demand an end to occupation.

Talks to form a government are stalled over the Kurdish demand for control over Kirkuk. If they get it, Kirkuk's huge oil fields would fall under Kurdish control. That means that if foreign troops are kicked out of Iraq, Iraqi Kurdistan can be broken off and Washington will still end up with a dependent, oil-rich regime - even if it's smaller than the one originally envisioned by the war's architects.

Meanwhile, Bush's freedom triumphalism glossed over the fact that, in the two years since the invasion, the power of political Islam has increased exponentially, while Iraq's deep secular traditions have been greatly eroded. In part, this has to do with the deadly decision to "embed" secularism and women's rights in the military invasion. Whenever Bremer needed a good-news hit, he had his picture taken at a newly opened women's centre, handily equating feminism with the hated occupation. (The women's centres are now mostly closed, and hundreds of Iraqis who worked with the coalition in local councils have been executed.) But the problem for secularism is not just guilt by association. It's also that the Bush definition of liberation robs democratic forces of their most potent tools.

The only idea that has ever stood up to kings, tyrants and mullahs in the Middle East is the promise of economic justice, brought about through nationalist and socialist policies of agrarian reform and state control over oil. But there is no room for such ideas in the Bush narrative, in which free people are only free to choose so-called free trade. That leaves democrats with little to offer, but empty talk of "human rights" - a weedy weapon against the powerful swords of ethnic glory and eternal salvation.

But we shouldn't be surprised that the Bush administration, despite telling stories about its commitment to freedom, continues to actively sabotage democracy in the very countries it claims to have liberated. Rumour has it McDonald's also continues to serve Big Macs.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/s...1436851,00.html

I noticed that Poly has no shortage of saps willing to parade the purple pinky or whatever it's called.

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The Guardian?

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Snapped.

You never even read it.

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Snapped.

You never even read it.


i just had to go down to the source.. I'm sorry.. lol.. the guardian... It is like the Washington Times of the left. Run by lunatics.. I'll dismiss it as fast as you dismiss the Washington Times.

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i just had to go down to the source.. I'm sorry.. lol.. the guardian... It is like the Washington Times of the left. Run by lunatics.. I'll dismiss it as fast as you dismiss the Washington Times.


Well, the general democratic procedure would still be to read it. Denying is like personal censorship.

Education is getting information from multiple sources and combining them. You can still be on whatever political spectrum you like and support them, but you are just a mindless fanatic, if you don't know what and why you are campagning(spell?) against and that includes knowing your opponent.
If you are afraid that you might switch sides, than you are just afraid of yourself. Fear is not good, it limits your actions and allows you to be controled. Controled people are the end of democracy.

Note: this is general advice and not necessarily related to this article.

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I stopped reading when she portrayed Tom Friedman as Bush's stooge...

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I stopped reading when she portrayed Tom Friedman as Bush's stooge...


I take that for granted. Friedman is an idiot. You'd think they could get someone with credibility to write columns. It is the New York Times after all.

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The sad thing is that Friedman is light years more intelligent than the rest of the New York Times columnists.

MoDo...

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i just had to go down to the source.. I'm sorry.. lol.. the guardian... It is like the Washington Times of the left. Run by lunatics.. I'll dismiss it as fast as you dismiss the Washington Times.



You'll dismiss it as quickly as you provide cogent support or evidence for your arguments.





In which case, I'll get the bulk food and drink supplies in, we'll be in for a looonnnggggg wait.


Last person who waited for Fez to produce a coherent argument supported with facts:

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They're all daft. If papers had intelligent columnists, no-one would read them.

Id still hit MoDo over Friedman.

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I'd certainly hope so...

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But Klein over Dowd.

*makes adjustment to his ledger.

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If the Guardian says "Brand USA" is in trouble, then that must be good news given their track record on accuracy.

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Welll, Guardian is a little.. hmm paper, but Brand USA is in trouble, that is true.

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The sad thing is that Friedman is light years more intelligent than the rest of the New York Times columnists.

MoDo...


Don't always agree with him, but the man does have a brain.

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The only idea that has ever stood up to kings, tyrants and mullahs in the Middle East is the promise of economic justice, brought about through nationalist and socialist policies of agrarian reform and state control over oil. But there is no room for such ideas in the Bush narrative, in which free people are only free to choose so-called free trade. That leaves democrats with little to offer, but empty talk of "human rights" - a weedy weapon against the powerful swords of ethnic glory and eternal salvation.or whatever it's called.


This paragraph kinda puzzles me. She is saying that the way to bring down the dictatorships in the middle east is to promise them socialist state run economic policies? How exactly does that work? Where is her evidence?

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When we have such silly catch phrases such as "the Axis of Evil," and "Outposts of Tyranny," there is no doubt the brand will suffer.

Whatever marketing intern came up with those slogans should be fired. It sounds like a bad comic book fan fiction parody.

I'm lovin' it!

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Kinda like the "Evil Empire", eh Ted?

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Not even close.

Nice try though.

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It's amazing that you can still worship Reagan while hating Bush. How do you deal with such cognitive dissonance?

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It's amazing that you can try the same tactic repeatedly and fail.

They aren't even close to being the same guy.

Thanks

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I stopped reading when she portrayed Tom Friedman as Bush's stooge...


That's where I stopped too. I don't particularly like Tom Friedman but than again I also dislike the Guardian for it's obvious bias. I'll read it when they're not publishing something blatantly off the deep end but I can't say I trust anything it says until a "real" newspaper backs up their take.

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The sad thing is that Friedman is light years more intelligent than the rest of the New York Times columnists.


Krugman has more smarts in his pinky than Apolyton's entire right wing combined.

As for the OP, I didn't read it. I won't read the Guardian. Sadly, I must agree with Fez on this one. I dismiss sources with blatant bias no matter what side of the political spectrum.

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And there is a similar irony to Bush urging the people of the Middle East to remove "the mask of fear" because "fear is the foundation of every dictatorial regime", when that fear is the direct result of US decisions to install and arm the regimes that have systematically terrorised for decades.


Thats illogical, George Bush hasn't been president for the last 50 years while the US was playing along with dictators during the cold war. Is there irony in the fact people disagree? Bush may be just another dictator loving a$$-kisser but you can't blame him for the actions of past politicians who were caught up in an ideological battle.

Oh yeah, Saddam was about as close to a socialist as we'll find in the Muslim ME so the author citing socialist reforms as the bulwark against dictators is

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Thats illogical, George Bush hasn't been president for the last 50 years while the US was playing along with dictators during the cold war. Is there irony in the fact people disagree? Bush may be just another dictator loving a$$-kisser but you can't blame him for the actions of past politicians who were caught up in an ideological battle.
but we can hold him responsible for holding said politicians in high esteem... I am of course assuming that Bush thinks Reagan was a great guy.

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Aggie, even you can do better then quoting Mrs. Klein.

The economist, unlike the Guardian, actually is an objective news source which clearly seporates editorial content from factual reporting. HERE is what The Economist had to say about Mrs. Klein.

BTW if you need to be able to log in so you can read the article then go to bugmenot.com to get a free spam free login.

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but we can hold him responsible for holding said politicians in high esteem... I am of course assuming that Bush thinks Reagan was a great guy.


Sure, lots of people think the world of FDR but some of the things he did were despicable. And I have little doubt that if Bush was in Reagan's place he would have embraced certain dictators in pursuance of the cold war, but my assumptions are not fact. So why is there irony in how Bush operates and how past presidents operated?

If the American people are gonna raise bloody hell about removing Saddam, how would a president get away with removing all the other dictators in the ME?
So, if you cant remove them, you gotta work with them in some way. Arming thugs crosses the line and this was done in the past because of economic and cold war considerations, but the author is indicting Bush for the sins of the past and thats just illogical, not ironical...

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You'll dismiss it as quickly as you provide cogent support or evidence for your arguments.





In which case, I'll get the bulk food and drink supplies in, we'll be in for a looonnnggggg wait.


Last person who waited for Fez to produce a coherent argument supported with facts:

Who are you kidding? Nobody ever makes coherent arguments supported with facts. And if someone did, it certainly wouldn't be Gia.

 
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