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Americans rejoice because your country is no longer the world's fattest. Of course Americans haven't lost weight but several European countries have been gaining weight much faster then the US and have now topped the US in the percentage of obese adults. Cyprus, the Czech Republic, Finland, Germany, Greece, Malta and Slovakia have more obese men as a percentage of the adult population then the US though the US is still tipping the scales at 67% of the adult male population being so over weight they are clinically obese. US women also remain a bunch of fat bastards with 34% being classified as obese but here the US only takes second place since Greek women are obese 38% of the time.

European health officials are calling for government action. Even in healthy countries like France the obesity rate is climbing fast and officials are blaming a cultural shift away from traditional foods towards high fat & high sugar processed foods. So people are calling for a tighting of food labeling laws and adjusting portion sizes in prepackaged food to better reflect the amounts people actually eat. It is hoped that by better informing people about the the nutritional content of what they eat the people will be able to make smarter choices.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,150544,00.html

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In any event Greeks are now the fattest people on Earth though Americans, Germans, Finns, Slovaks, Czechs, Maltese, and Cyprusians are close behind. It looks like we have a bunch of fat and happy westerns.

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Americans should rejoice as well.

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We're still fatter then before but other people got fatter faster.

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Actually, I wonder at the stats.

Remember, most baseball and football stars are "obese". Many of the football athletes are "morbidly obese".

I'm not denying that there are a lot of chunky or just plain fat Americans. But there are more Americans working out now then there used to be... and many measures of obesity don't take into account the difference between muscle and fat. When athletes, pro and am, get lumped into "fat" and "hey, you might die soon you so fat!", I think there is a problem in the data. Indeed, I sense a bit more spin on their numbers then even I would dare for an entertaining convo.

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How do they define 'obese'? Do bodybuilder qualify as obese? They certainly weigh a lot more than they should. Do Pro-athletes count as obese? They're certainly not trim.

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Space... I think they do. If it's the same set of stats that's been making the rounds on the online science rags, then it's a simple height/weight ratio, rather then any sort of bodyfat index.

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USA!!!!

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athletes and such make up less then 1% of US populatiion. what about the other 66%?

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That's a good point, they are the outliers.

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Out west we're the healthiest and weight the least but the south is fat, fat fat.

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Amateurs make up significantly more then 1%, LoA. And there is this trend to work out until you get cut. That's considered healthy. But it puts you over your height/weight healthy index...

What the proportion of the population that is that are amateurs or maintaining their cut, I do not know. But it has increased significantly. And it is certainly more then a mere 1% or 2% of the US Population. Going to the gym and staying cut is a very popular past time, even with straights.

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I can't imagine that going to the gym makes a significant proportion of Americans weigh in as "fat". Certainly not as clinically obese.

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Man, as long as it's not those old guys in the locker room always standing around naked and using the hair dryer to dry their pubes off.

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All that about Europeans being slimmer then Americans.. I knew that was truly crap. But nonetheless this should be of concern:

Story here

"In an analysis that weighed in on the debate over reforming Social Security (news - web sites), health experts concluded that the nation's steady rise in longevity may end in coming decades as more people die early from obesity-related health problems like heart disease, diabetes and kidney failure."

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We have a dramatic weight problem indeed, and it's partly because of new processed foods, but also because the current fat old generation is the first one to have no food shortage whatsoever.

Our traditional foods are actually quite fat (especially in Germanic Europe, where it's a heap of fat), and this tradition is only normal in the light of the food shortages our peasantry had to fight for millenia: at that time, you ingurgitated the most nourishing food you could.

At least in France, the government initiatives don't favour traditional foods (except wine), but healthy, vegetable heavy diets. Over here, the fattest are often the poorest, because they can only afford cheap unhealthy food. Besides, uneducated populations are also more likely not to have a good nutrition.

Over here, we have done several things to curb the progression of the fatties: our school restaurants are relatively fat-light and vegetable-heavy ("relatively" being the key word). We have begun removing soda automatic distributors in schools and replacing them by fruit automats. There are more courses that explain how to keep slim. But these initiatives can't solve the main problem, which is that we have a very sedentary lifestyle now, and that we eat probably more enegry than ever before.

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2 out of every 3 american males are obese? Bullshit

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Out west we're the healthiest and weight the least but the south is fat, fat fat.


Thats what happens when you eat deep-fat-fried twinkies.

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since Greek women are obese 38% of the time.


Weird. I didn't notice anything of this when I was there. Of course, my attention may have been attracted by the other 62%.

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2 out of every 3 american males are obese? Bullshit


Take it up with Fox News.

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Time to lose some weight again, I guess...

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I am obese- the definition of Obese is as follows:

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While several accepted classifications and definitions exist for degrees of obesity, the most widely accepted is the World Health Organization (WHO) criteria based on BMI. Under this convention for adults, grade 1 overweight (commonly and simply called overweight) is a BMI of 25-29.9 kg/m2. Grade 2 overweight (commonly called obesity) is a BMI of 30-39.9 kg/m2. Grade 3 overweight (commonly called severe or morbid obesity) is a BMI greater than or equal to 40 kg/m2.


I weigh 101 Kg and I am 1.75 Meters tall, so I have a BMI in the mid 30's, hence I am obese. At the same time, I am not round. So someone can be obese without seeming to the nakes eye to be some human mountain. I should lose about 20 kg to get out of being overweight.

My BMI is 32.1 actually. Actually, not to be overweight, I would have to go from 222lbs to 168 lbs, or 54 lbs, so 25 kg of wieght loss.

The thing is, If I weighted 180 lbs, I would still be overweight, but much healthier than today, and probably healthy enough.

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What is 155 pounds and 6'1" at in that BMI scale? I bet underweight..

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What is 155 pounds and 6'1" at in that BMI scale? I bet underweight..


That's 20.4

The calculator

http://www.cdc.gov/nccdphp/dnpa/bmi/calc-bmi.htm

According to them, that's in the normal weight range.

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athletes and such make up less then 1% of US populatiion. what about the other 66%?


There are plenty of amature athletes. Not to mention a good majority of high-school athletes are far larger than thier peers.


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BMI = BS

Im supposedly dead in the center (22.1), "ideal" I guess. Im much skinnier than I should be.

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The East Midlands of the UK is the area of greatest proportion of fat birds.

It's Fat Slag Land, I tell you!

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That's 20.4

The calculator

http://www.cdc.gov/nccdphp/dnpa/bmi/calc-bmi.htm

According to them, that's in the normal weight range.


Must be the muscles I have in my legs for all the running I do..

But yes I think the BMI indicator is crap. I'm categorized as underweight by many other indicators.. I way more skinny for my height then I should be.

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Ban the marketing of junk food at children and free, healthy school meals for all children. That'd be a good start.

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In any event Greeks are now the fattest people on Earth


I wonder how many places they would drop on the chart, if MarkG decided to leave

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Pah. School food wasn't that good.

College on the other hand, has too much food. There's a tradition at my college called the Freshman 15: You will always gain 15 pounds in your freshman year. I personally can't believe they freaking have fast food there.

 
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