19-03-2005 01:48									#1
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Last night I met a goddess who decended from the heavens for a visit with us mere mortals on Earth. Her name is Karen (Pronounced Kah-ggghhhen - that's a gutteral sound). She is from Norway and of half-Norwegian, half Irish-American decent. She's the perfect Aryan girl: blonde, white, blue-eyed. She's a model and probably the prettiest girl I've ever laid eyes on. We talked and danced for an hour last night at a crowded party, and I got her number.

This is where you guys come in: Teach me Norwegian. Not like a full-load thing or anything, just some words and phrases that would impress/be helpful in conversation. She taught me a toast (something about not being above or below but equal) after I taught her one in Gaelic. Things like that would be cool, but anything that any of you know would be a great deal of help.

	19-03-2005 01:56									#2
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quote: . Her name is Karen (Pronounced Kah-ggghhhen

	19-03-2005 02:28									#3
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It sounds like rolling the tongue but I can't do it, so it comes out kinda gross.

Her name could put a hold damper on our relationship

	19-03-2005 02:31									#4
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What version of norwegian is she speaking? norsk or ny-norsk? (norwegian or new-norwegian)

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	19-03-2005 02:36									#5
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Uh...no clue. How are they different?

	19-03-2005 02:41									#6
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To answer that, a crash course in norwegian history is needed. From the late middle ages, and until 1814, Norway was owned by Denmark. Then from 1814 until the early 20th century (i have forgotten the exact year) by Sweden. Only then did they become independent.

As a result of that, norwegian is a mix of swedish and danish (nigh on danish spelling - nigh on swedish pronounciation). Therefore ny-norsk was created, as a nationalistic move towards further independence. Ny-norsk is quite different from norwegian. Many words are the same, but then again a lot of words differ greatly in spelling and pronounciation.

Our norwegian posters can be more exact, of course, but as I understand it, the differences are quite large.

Asmodean

	19-03-2005 03:17									#7
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Well thanks for that. It's certainly a good question that I can ask her.

C'mon, someone out there must know some Norwegian!

	19-03-2005 03:20									#8
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here is a phrase that will get you far:

Vess du fan ikke kan oppfør dæ årntli så ska æ stapp høue ditt opp i ræva di, så kan du sett dær, aleina i mørtna, å prat mannskit me dæ sjøl.

	19-03-2005 03:21									#9
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meaning?

And pronunciation help would be great as well

	19-03-2005 03:22									#10
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That's actually quite funny, Sava. Where did you find that.

@ TEF: Don't even think of trying to say that to her, if you want to continue seeing her.

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	19-03-2005 03:23									#11
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I figured as much, given the source

	19-03-2005 03:24									#12
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quote: That's actually quite funny, Sava. Where did you find that.

I have my sources.

	19-03-2005 03:24									#13
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Free translation: If you can't f***in' behave, then I'll stick your BS so far up your ass, that you'll have to sit there, alone in the dark, and talk BS with yourself.

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	19-03-2005 03:59									#14
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If you want to win the eternal friendship of a Norwegian, you only need one simple phrase: Heia Norge!, shouted at the top of your lungs every time Norway or anything remotely connected is mentioned, especially if it's sports related.

And at all times, compliment the beauty of their flag.

Independence was 100 years ago, in 1905 btw. Good thing to remember come May 17...

	19-03-2005 04:10									#15
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/languages/othe...norwegian.shtml has some norwegian phrases with audio.

Same with http://www.travelblog.org/World/norwegian-audio.html

And If you want to be more ambitious this site has loads of words and phrases and their pronunciation. http://www.sofn.com/norwegianculture/languagelessons/

	19-03-2005 04:15									#16
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quote: Originally posted by Winston If you want to win the eternal friendship of a Norwegian, you only need one simple phrase: Heia Norge!, shouted at the top of your lungs every time Norway or anything remotely connected is mentioned, especially if it's sports related. And at all times, compliment the beauty of their flag. Independence was 100 years ago, in 1905 btw. Good thing to remember come May 17...

But May 17 isn´t celebrated because of the independence in 1905. It´s a celebration of the norwegian constitution signed in Eidsvoll in 1814.

	19-03-2005 04:18									#17
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I want pics of the beautiful Norwegian girl.

	19-03-2005 04:31									#18
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K X, I know. And I also figured someone would point it out, but the fact is their National Day this time around will likely be even more 'over the top' than usual, exactly because of the Centennial.

But hey, apart from the incredible displays of Nationalism, Norwegians are really ok.

	19-03-2005 04:40									#19
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I remember a very pretty (though a bit skinny) blonde Norwegian girl. I wanted to have sex with her until she got really drunk and threw up on my pants.

	19-03-2005 05:26									#20
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Why go all the way to N. Europe to hit Scandinavian chicks when it is easer to find them in Minnesota?

	19-03-2005 05:27									#21
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Don't be so shy next time - go for the hit before she gets too drunk

	19-03-2005 05:49									#22
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Get roaringly drunk and speak with a hot potato in your mouth.

Congratulations: You're speaking excellent Norwegian

No wait I think that's supposed to be Danish

	19-03-2005 05:59									#23
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Nah, we convert our potatoes to Aquae Vitae so it can't be us

	19-03-2005 14:57									#24
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fagfolk = professionals
faglitteratur = professional literature

Actually a clear bokmål-nynorsk dichotomy doesn't exist in the spoken language, they are just two different forms of written Norwegian. In the spoken language there are lots of dialects. And to make things more complicated, bokmål and nynorsk are divided into conservative bokmål (the form that most resembles Danish), radical bokmål, conservative nynorsk and radical nynorsk.

	19-03-2005 15:09									#25
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quote: Vess du fan ikke kan oppfør dæ årntli så ska æ stapp høue ditt opp i ræva di, så kan du sett dær, aleina i mørtna, å prat mannskit me dæ sjøl.

That's nynorsk. What does "høue" mean?

Edit: Ah, head, of course.

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Akkurat!

	20-03-2005 03:40									#27
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Sheesh! I knew of some other important historical anniversaries this year, but this is the first time I realized this one!

Stavangersk Rules!

But can anyone tell me the status and current diversity of the far northern dialects, specifically around Lofoten?