22-03-2005 14:15									#1
	Guarding iron sources of our enemies Put an end to popups!

Shall we make a spear or two to prevent the evil aqua and even worse porkers from connecting their iron when they research it?

	22-03-2005 15:46									#2
	Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

so glad this is not a dilema.... :grrrr:

	22-03-2005 19:22									#3
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I have set out my thoughts here:

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...104#post3690104

	22-03-2005 19:29									#4
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Or perhaps two spears, but both on that mountain to prevent the pigs from connecting their iron.

	23-03-2005 02:49									#5
	Put an end to popups!

As I reported in the Turn thread, I think antagonizing 2 opponents simultaneously is not wise.

	23-03-2005 09:14									#6
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I voted for KBH only because I wasn't exactly sure who is producing our next settler the fastest at the moment.

I believe it has been said before that there probably won't be very much iron and I'm not sure if this map is suppose to be equal in proportions of resources. (Anyone?) Is it possible that the Porkers might have excess to 2 sources of Iron and at this point do we even know if THEY know that THEY have Iron? I believe we can send one spear to that mountain or get close enough to block it once we know they have Ironworking and keep our warrior either looking for Iron or setting up for War. I think it is highly predictable that if we do block it and they realize it, that we better have our Hordes there to counter punch them and roll around their backside. Just my wandering thoughts at the moment.

	23-03-2005 09:20									#7
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I also agree with the thoughts on not blocking the other source of Iron for fear of diplomatic break downs. It has also occured to me that what is stopping DR from taking the Iron and ransacking our Allies... their positions is not that far off. Though we don't want to fight a Two-Front war... what are our capabilites of sending support troops to our Allies while also fighting w/ the Porkers. Though we have no knowledge of such an event happening, our Allies can be a great buffer while @ War with the porkers. I don't know... maybe I'm dreaming or just over analyzing.

	23-03-2005 11:57									#8
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I have many cross thoughts on this matter... it should be noted that "Heavy Axes" will be on the Pigs Iron source in the next two turns...

	23-03-2005 12:25									#9
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Let Heavy Axes stand guard at Pigs Iron, they should be out of the game before they could be using it.

	24-03-2005 02:50									#10
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The pigs have the wheel so we do need spears on that mountain if we want to stand a chance against the porker war chariots. (By the way, they can't move over mountains, but can they attack a unit on the mountains?)

However, we may agree to send one spear and keep it on the far side of that mountain until the pigs research iron at which point we shall occupy the mountain top.

	24-03-2005 18:41									#11
	Inflate your Upload Space

It seems that the option to build one spear has the majority. We should build that spear in Bokhara and place it next to that iron mountain so the pigs don't see it. Then, the minute they discover iron we place it on top of that mountain. It will be too late for the pigs then.