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ozmono1914 is offline ozmono1914
Settler

Mar 2005
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Make It Fun Not Dumb Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

Problem solving, Organizing stategies and reliving the complexity of History Is what has always made this game fun. Simplification IS NOT FUN BUT BETRAYAL OF LOYAL FANS WHO WANT MORE IN FAVOUR OF PEOPLE WHO MAY NEVER TAKE ON THE CONCEPT AND I FOR ONE WILL NOT BUY THE GAME JUST BECAUSE OF THE OTHER CIV GAMES

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Capt Dizle is offline Capt Dizle
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Sep 1999
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  Old Post 23-03-2005 12:25
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No, you will buy it so that you can come here and gripe about how its sucks. Me too.

Trifna is offline Trifna
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Jul 2001
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"Betrayal of loyal fans": Did you contracted them so that they make your or my projects? I think that they have their own lives, and thus their own projects. They are not to obey to someone else, neither to do others' bidding. Thus they never were supposed to please anyone.

Nikolai is offline Nikolai
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Oct 2000
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Stop screaming, ozmo.

TechWins is offline TechWins
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Apr 2001
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Re: Make It Fun Not Dumb Suffering from ads?

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Problem solving, Organizing stategies and reliving the complexity of History Is what has always made this game fun. Simplification IS NOT FUN BUT BETRAYAL OF LOYAL FANS WHO WANT MORE IN FAVOUR OF PEOPLE WHO MAY NEVER TAKE ON THE CONCEPT AND I FOR ONE WILL NOT BUY THE GAME JUST BECAUSE OF THE OTHER CIV GAMES


Jumping to conclusions is great...

ozmono1914 is offline ozmono1914
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Mar 2005
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As I have stated in the other thread the more moderate replies are the correct ones and I over reacted and am jumping to conclussions.
However Trifna I believe you are wrong to have the attitude they paid for it so they can do what they want. On the most basic level that is a correct statement but my point was that they are turning there back on there fan base if they simplify the game to appease a mainstream audience. I believe in the long run not only would it be bad for me and anyone who shares my view point but ultimately kill the series as any mainstream newly converted civ players aren't likely to create websites to discuss the games, give feedback, preorder the game and general to help it survive.

ozmono1914 is offline ozmono1914
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Mar 2005
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Furthermore Trifna, they are producing this game to make money and if they want people to buy the game they have to serve there needs or in other words the opposite of what you said and do our bidding
And Techwins I realise that simplification may not be what it sounds like and as someone wrote in another thread it could be just a reduction in micromanagement and I would be happy with this (if it's optional) but I am expressing my concerns never the less.
I think soren Johnson is scared or convinced that CTP series flopped because of the increase in complexity from the orginal (see powerpoint presentation of his) when in reality it is known by those who have followed the civ series and it's offshoots that it was the AI and maybe also the interface for newbies.

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Brent is offline Brent
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Dec 2000
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The needs of the few hardcore fans outweigh the needs of the masses. Indeed.

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Rogue States of America
Mar 2002
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It sounds like the it's going to be quite moddable.

I know where I'm gonna look first if it's at all like the other civs
1) Navies
Make subs cheaper
Make crusers & destoyers faster, and weaker - the speed will make them more useful in attacking weaker ships
2)Wonders
make sure there useful, but not overpowering.

Brent is offline Brent
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Suffering from ads?

Whereas I'll get rid of the leaderheads if possible, maybe eliminate civuniqueness... maybe... and create new civs, like separate Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Finland, Iceland, Inuit, California, Texas, Utah, Zurich, Berne, Lancashire, etc. Depending on what I can do.

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Arizona
Apr 2001
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Originally posted by ozmono1914 And Techwins I realise that simplification may not be what it sounds like and as someone wrote in another thread it could be just a reduction in micromanagement and I would be happy with this (if it's optional) but I am expressing my concerns never the less.


I was implying jumping to conclusions about them betraying loyal fans... At least wait till we find out more info and see screenshots before judging.

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