23-03-2005 21:47									#1
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I ain't.

I dont/can't feel comfortable around people with mental disabilities. Physical disbilities I can cope with, but retards and such...not.
I dont hate them, its just that...I....I....dont even know why.
I know 2 people who work with retards 50 hours a week and I cant even start to understand how they do it. I cant help but feel pity and discust for these people at the same time. I know they're probably kind and all but I dont see myself relating to them.
What I think I would need to happen for me to be comfortable with them someday is to be stuck with one in a particular situation so that I wouldn't have a choice but to adapt.
You know what I mean people.
Example of how I react. The other day, I was at the mall, and this about 6 year old kid was sitting in a wheelchair next to me and his mother. He was smilling at me and was saying stuff. I know he wanted my attention in some way but...His arms couldn't move right, he couldn't speak well and what he was saying didn't make sense to me at all. I smilled back without even answering to the poor kid cuz I didn't know what he was saying. I mean, he should be the uncomfortable one, not me....but it wasn't the case.
And since I just smilled and didn't say anything, cuz, frankly, I didn't know what to say, I felt even worst for the kid cuz all he wanted was to chat a bit....or so I think.
I hate being such an un-accomodating jerk with retards but I cant help it.


Are some poly people like me or am I just a retard with retards myself.

Spec.

	23-03-2005 21:48									#2
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Well, I have to deal with the retards that post here

	23-03-2005 21:51									#3
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my sister works with autistic children... her boyfriend also works with mentally handicapped children.

I could never do that

	23-03-2005 21:52									#4
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui Well, I have to deal with the retards that post here

Seriously man, the other day, the other day, one lady that I know brang some retards home with her for a special occasion and my girlfriend wanted to go see her mother which was at the ladys home at the sametime. I didn't want to go and be stuck there with 3 retards.

I find my self discusting even though I know I cant do it and its not out of hate but "fear".

Spec.

	23-03-2005 21:53									#5
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edit: wrong thread LOL

	23-03-2005 21:55									#6
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X-Post, Sava?

Anyway, I'm kind of with Spec. I have a hard time dealing with people with mental disorders.

	23-03-2005 22:01									#7
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You mean seriously retarded people, not just jerks? Now that I think of it, I actually haven't been around one IRL. I'm sure it's not a pleasant experience.

	23-03-2005 22:08									#8
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Seriously mentally retarded people? I have no problem with, they're like that through no fault of their own and are often incredibly creative, strong and humble which I totally respect. So they can't hold down a conversation so well, just means the able-minded have to try harder.

Plain stupid people... belligerent idiots and people with double-figure IQ's? I can't stand them. Too many memories of being bullied for being a booknut. Most are basically animals, but not in a good way for they're also arrogant, self-assured and supercilious. Ironic because sometimes I think I'm like that.

	23-03-2005 22:09									#9
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui Well, I have to deal with the retards that post here

	23-03-2005 22:18									#10
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At my lower school (4-9) we had a unit in a building on campus for children with severe learning difficulties... downs syndrome etc, and we all had to help out with the teaching and play with the kids... stuff like that... I think that was really good at building tolerance. We also learned sign language which is useful to an 8 year old

	23-03-2005 22:27									#11
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I'm pretty good friends with not one, but two people with pretty hardcore Asperger's. It's a royal pain to get them to do everything, and they're socially awkward and offputting at first, but they're some of the most brilliant people I know.

A friend's little sister has Downs symdrome, and she's the sweetest girl in the world.

	23-03-2005 22:55									#12
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quote: Originally posted by Asher I'm pretty good friends with not one, but two people with pretty hardcore Asperger's. It's a royal pain to get them to do everything, and they're socially awkward and offputting at first, but they're some of the most brilliant people I know. A friend's little sister has Downs symdrome, and she's the sweetest girl in the world.

I'm sure they are. But even so, I cant deal with them. It's not something I can control but rather something I feel.

Spec.

	23-03-2005 22:59									#13
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Its not uncommon for people to feel uncomfortable around people that are mentally challegend, as long as you dont harrass or try to hurt them in anyway. Most of the time they dont even know that they might be annoying you.

	23-03-2005 23:08									#14
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I can deal with people that have some disorders... dealt with several, including one that was, I suspect, autistic. I have a very hard time dealing with people who are not retarded, but are generally jerks and very unintelligent, they annoy me a lot. Retards, though... I can deal with them. To be specific, they find talking to me rather easy, even if they're normally experiencing difficulties communicating. Also, if they're the kind that's hyperactive and hard to reason with, I am usually able to calm these people and so on.

This seems to be something I inherited. My mother definitely has excellent abilities in communicating to socially impaired or somewhat mental.

That being said, I have not encountered people with heavy mental disorders, such as serious schizophrenia... then again, they're typically in mental facilities, which is not a place I visit.

	23-03-2005 23:23									#15
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some schizophrenis are easier to deal with then seriously autistic people. There is medication that can help the schizophrenics but not the autistic. Any way I have no problem being around anytype of person Even the jerks, those I can ignore.

	23-03-2005 23:37									#16
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I have Aspergers. Just look at the way people treated me here in Apolyton 6 years ago, and you get your answer regarding how Apolyton treats mentally disabled peeps.

Eh, that's not an excuse. I have a very light case anyways, (Few even remotely recongize that I have it today, and I rarely show it with the exception when I'm with my peers...) but still, back to the topic...

I've always been an intolerant person, I admit. It's hypocritcal of me. I support special education a lot and wish to do everything to make the kids better, yet I can't stand them myself. Then again, even looking at the teachers who worked with them, they were hardly tolerant either, and that's just sad.

One thing that just drives me insane is when people try to remove support for special education. Thinking it's a waste of time and such, when it's not. Even people who have severe mental disabilities can be extremely gifted. As a light example, Einstein, Bill Gates, and Newton all had/has Aspergers.

	23-03-2005 23:39									#17
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People with mental difficulties are a world of trouble for me. It's very difficult for me.

	23-03-2005 23:44									#18
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Pfft. My mother's got serious mental problems (we're talking symptoms equivalent to paranoid schizophrenia with the full shebang of hallucinations and false memory).

It's a total pain in the arse and I really couldn't give a damn about the delicate sensibilities of anyone who has the good fortune to be able to walk away from it. Deal with it or piss off, but don't waste my time by whining.

	23-03-2005 23:47									#19
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quote: Pfft. My mother's got serious mental problems (we're talking symptoms equivalent to paranoid schizophrenia with the full shebang of hallucinations and false memory).

Dayumn...

Say, is that something hereditary, or developmental? ( note: not a joke on you)

	23-03-2005 23:55									#20
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quote: Originally posted by Lazarus and the Gimp Pfft. My mother's got serious mental problems (we're talking symptoms equivalent to paranoid schizophrenia with the full shebang of hallucinations and false memory). It's a total pain in the arse and I really couldn't give a damn about the delicate sensibilities of anyone who has the good fortune to be able to walk away from it. Deal with it or piss off, but don't waste my time by whining.

First off, it has nothing to do with being mentaly retarded. Your mom is mentaly ILL.
As for wasting your time, I didn't MAKE your read this thread, you clicked on it by yourself.
Also, if you took time to reply, you dont have such a tight schedule and probably have some time to waiste being on Poly so much.

BTW, I have no problem with mentaly ILL people, in fact, I know 3 people who are Paranoid schizophrenic and 2 of them are my friends.

Spec.

	24-03-2005 00:04									#21
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quote: First off, it has nothing to do with being mentaly retarded. Your mom is mentaly ILL.

To say someone is mentally retarded is bullshit anyway, they're just different kinds of mental illness. I find it a little sick personally that people/person have this feeling of revulsion that they can't seem to be bothered to change. Remember that you can change your revulsion, they can't change their lives. Just makes me think that it's not them that have the problem, it's you .

	24-03-2005 00:09									#22
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quote: Originally posted by Bill3000 I have Aspergers. Just look at the way people treated me here in Apolyton 6 years ago, and you get your answer regarding how Apolyton treats mentally disabled peeps. Eh, that's not an excuse. I have a very light case anyways, (Few even remotely recongize that I have it today, and I rarely show it with the exception when I'm with my peers...) but still, back to the topic... I've always been an intolerant person, I admit. It's hypocritcal of me. I support special education a lot and wish to do everything to make the kids better, yet I can't stand them myself. Then again, even looking at the teachers who worked with them, they were hardly tolerant either, and that's just sad. One thing that just drives me insane is when people try to remove support for special education. Thinking it's a waste of time and such, when it's not. Even people who have severe mental disabilities can be extremely gifted. As a light example, Einstein, Bill Gates, and Newton all had/has Aspergers.

Im not familiar with this what is it ,Aspergers that is

	24-03-2005 00:16									#23
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quote: Originally posted by Mrs. Tuberski Im not familiar with this what is it ,Aspergers that is

http://users.wpi.edu/~trek/aspergers.html

	24-03-2005 00:18									#24
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It seems like all the nerds here have ADHD or Aspergers (I have both ).

	24-03-2005 00:21									#25
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quote: Originally posted by Odin It seems like all the nerds here have ADHD or Aspergers (I have both ).

I have a brother with Aspergers - previously misdiagnosed as ADHD.

	24-03-2005 00:30									#26
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quote: Originally posted by Whaleboy To say someone is mentally retarded is bullshit anyway, they're just different kinds of mental illness. I find it a little sick personally that people/person have this feeling of revulsion that they can't seem to be bothered to change. Remember that you can change your revulsion, they can't change their lives. Just makes me think that it's not them that have the problem, it's you .

Dude. Some people are mentaly RETARDED because they lacked oxygen at birth. This is not a disease.
Paranoiya, ADD, Aspergers and so on are diseases.

I hope you see the difference.

As for I having the problem, I agree and thats why I started the thread.

Spec.

	24-03-2005 00:34									#27
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quote: Dude. Some people are mentaly RETARDED because they lacked oxygen at birth. This is not a disease.

Some are ( in this case, this is an injury, really), but others are not.

	24-03-2005 00:43									#28
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I know Azazel, but the "others" are not the ones I am talking about so it has nothing to do with my first post. See?

Spec.

	24-03-2005 00:48									#29
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not all retarded people are retarded because of a lack of oxygen to the brain.

	24-03-2005 01:02									#30
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Point is spec is okay saying that retarded as you all them make him uncomfortable I havent seen were he has judged them but for that him his self being judged. Nothing wrong with feeling that way as long as hes not mean to these folks