24-03-2005 06:15									#1
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Now my intent here is not to insult, but bring some things to light:

What kind of a twisted religion has its followers eat the dead body of their god and drink his blood (bread and wine)...?


What kind of religion has as their official icon, their diety nailed to a wooden board, with thorns bleeding his head.


Enlighten me please.... cause you all seem a little sick to me in these regards.....

How is this stuff not the same as goat sacrifices in Devil Worship, I really want to know?

	24-03-2005 06:19									#2
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Transubstantiation is definitely a carryover of pagan rites (including Roman and Egyptian religious practices and Mithraism).

If you believe the Evangelicals, it's a satanic rite that signifies the continued evil of the Roman Catholic church.

	24-03-2005 06:22									#3
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Abstinence pledges are the true horror of the modern church.

I wish a Tornado of licentiousness would devastate the South. Maybe then they would get a life, and stop interfering in everyone else's.

	24-03-2005 06:24									#4
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I've asked god about it, he sends a few tornadoes in the South for that very reason, but he doesn't want to send too much cause he doesn't want to upset the rest of his creation Nature....

He was particularly dimayed by the re-election of President Bush, that's why there were so many hurricanes right before the election to try to wipe out republican held territory... last ditch effort by god to influence the election......

	24-03-2005 06:29									#5
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You dont want to know the churchs teachings you are looking to make a ridcule of it, but i dare tell you no need its already been done

	24-03-2005 06:33									#6
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quote: He was particularly dimayed by the re-election of President Bush, that's why there were so many hurricanes right before the election to try to wipe out republican held territory... last ditch effort by god to influence the election......

Damn that really back fired. Bush's response gave him a few extra votes in Florida. Your God isn't too smart.

About the catholic rights no idea. I don't think many Protestant faiths practice that.

	24-03-2005 06:33									#7
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quote: Originally posted by Thorn Now my intent here is not to insult, (...) twisted religion

quote: has its followers eat the dead body of their god and drink his blood (bread and wine)...?

1) it's not dead
2) ask a priest if You want to know, not a common person - otherwise You don't want to get to know anything, You're making a cheap propaganda show
3) what's wrong with that? It symbolises us being the spiritual body of Christ through his sacrifice.

quote: What kind of religion has as their official icon, their diety nailed to a wooden board, with thorns bleeding his head.

The one whose deity actually was nailed to a wooden board, with thorns bleeding his head

quote: How is this stuff not the same as goat sacrifices in Devil Worship, I really want to know?

bah,
Christians are not killing an innocent being for the glory of anyone. The only Christian rite that has animal sacrifices, are Armenians (not all, though).
If there's a resemblance with black masses, it's because black masses are based on Christian cult, are a parody of it.

quote:

yeah, right.

	24-03-2005 06:34									#8
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quote: bah, Christians are not killing an innocent being for the glory of anyone.

*cough Crusades*

I'd talk to a priest but I think I'm excommunicated.

	24-03-2005 06:40									#9
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quote: Originally posted by Thorn *cough Crusades* I'd talk to a priest but I think I'm excommunicated.

Any time someone wants to hit Christianity, He recalls crusades. Crusades are not part of Christian religion, moreover they stopped hungred years ago and the goal was not to kill people, but to "help Eastern Christians in need" (which they did poorly, to say the least) and to liberate Holy Land.


Oh, and You can talk to a priest even if You're excommunicated.

	24-03-2005 06:46									#10
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Thorn - (and I'm also an ex-Catholic - I assume you are by your ex-communicate comment), if you have issues with the Church, fine. But don't troll those who are trying to make the Church a genuine force of good, and a living breathing entity. Why troll them - unless one of them has been unpleasant to you, maybe you should can it. Unless you are trying to be as intolerant as those you claim to hold in contempt, which means you were sadly taught very well.

	24-03-2005 06:46									#11
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quote: Any time someone wants to hit Christianity, He recalls crusades. Crusades are not part of Christian religion, moreover they stopped hungred years ago and the goal was not to kill people, but to "help Eastern Christians in need" (which they did poorly, to say the least) and to liberate Holy Land.

You opened up that can of worms, anyways the Popes God's supreme messenger on earth second only to Jesus, called for the crusades, so if that isn't Christian stuff, then what is?

quote: Oh, and You can talk to a priest even if You're excommunicated.

Wouldn't I be going to hell then, so why would they want to help out a damned soul like mine, ain't I be the other side at that point?

---there are some other things that don't make sense to me at all like the stuff out of Leviticus.... why do Christians pick some things as truthful there and others as not, I didn't know that Supreme Truth was pick or choose... a freaking choose your own adventure book!

	24-03-2005 06:47									#12
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quote: *cough Crusades*

(Paraphrase)
"Christianity didn't survive because of the middle age Christians, It survived in spite of them"
A World Lit only By Fire.

In many ways most people of the Middle Ages were more Pagan than Christian. They couldn't even understand the mass.

	24-03-2005 07:03									#13
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quote: Originally posted by Thorn You opened up that can of worms, anyways the Popes God's supreme messenger on earth second only to Jesus, called for the crusades, so if that isn't Christian stuff, then what is?

The dogma of pope's infallibility was not around back then, moreover it's only about matters of faith. Politics are not a matter of faith.

Also, stop demonising crusades. They were in general a defensive movement.

quote: Wouldn't I be going to hell then, so why would they want to help out a damned soul like mine, ain't I be the other side at that point? [quote] There are still possibilities of saving You. And according to some, even Satan will be saved oneday - according to Origenes, for example. And they should try to save You for they ought to love You, as Jesus told us to do. He told us to be like sun, giving its warmth to everyone, good and bad alike. [quote] ---there are some other things that don't make sense to me at all like the stuff out of Leviticus.... why do Christians pick some things as truthful there and others as not, I didn't know that Supreme Truth was pick or choose... a freaking choose your own adventure book!

I'll reply with what one late antiquity bishop said about Origenes: it's like a lane. I'm picking the flowers, and avoiding the bushes
Part of Jesus' message was that all the Jewish rituals are human tradition, it's something else that God expects us to do.

	24-03-2005 07:05									#14
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So apparently killing gays is picking the flowers eh?

	24-03-2005 07:08									#15
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All of the crusades weren't defensive.

	24-03-2005 07:08									#16
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Who says so?

	24-03-2005 07:11									#17
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Namely the one to take Jerusalem since the christians didn't hold it in the first place.

	24-03-2005 07:17									#18
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quote: Originally posted by Thorn So apparently killing gays is picking the flowers eh?

It's probably more like squashing fruits

	24-03-2005 07:18									#19
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Puns

	24-03-2005 07:21									#20
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Yeah, communion promotes cannibalism

	24-03-2005 08:43									#21
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Hmm, what's eating you this time, Thorn? Just get harassed by a Catholic or something? Aside from the stuff about defending the Crusades (which got out of hand rather quickly, whatever their original intent), I second Heresson. This is just tacky.

	24-03-2005 08:54									#22
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Mean Catholic ghosts have taken residence in one of his boyfriends, no doubt, which makes life uncomfortable to say the least.

	24-03-2005 09:00									#23
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quote: Originally posted by Heresson Who says so?

5 out of 6 historians, that's whom.

Christians had not held the Holy Land since the 7th century. The Byzantine Emperor asked for help against those nasty Turks, not for a Papal expedition to Jerusalem, which was held at the time by Muslim powers friendly to the Byzantine Emperor.

The Crusaders did great damage and can be thanked to a great extent for the great decline of Christianity in Syria, Turkey, and the Holy Land.

And lets not forget the bastards of the 4th Crusade that made it only far enough to sack Constantinople. Yeah, real defensive there.

	24-03-2005 09:02									#24
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It's sad when only 1 out of 6 historians does not subscribe to revisionist history.

	24-03-2005 09:08									#25
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quote: Originally posted by Heresson Any time someone wants to hit Christianity, He recalls crusades. Crusades are not part of Christian religion, moreover they stopped hungred years ago and the goal was not to kill people, but to "help Eastern Christians in need" (which they did poorly, to say the least) and to liberate Holy Land.

bullshit... the Crusaders sacked Orthodox churches...

	24-03-2005 09:13									#26
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You are a very bad sinner, EVC.

	24-03-2005 09:18									#27
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Dagnabit, Heresson, this thread could have been a perfectly innocuous let's-laugh-at-Thorn opportunity, but nooo, you had to defend the crusades. It's not a good idea to attack strawmen like that.

	24-03-2005 09:21									#28
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quote: Originally posted by Thorn So apparently killing gays is picking the flowers eh?

If I recall correctly, EVC, didn't you once advocate the mass murder of homosexuals by means of hanging them by their genitals?

	24-03-2005 09:25									#29
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"dead body of their god and drink his blood (bread and wine)...?"

The body is not dead. By consuming the Eucharist we enter into communion with our God.

"What kind of religion has as their official icon, their diety nailed to a wooden board, with thorns bleeding his head"

It does give us a distinction with other religions, whose leaders were popular and powerful. Mohammed was a political leader who conqured vast swaths of land. In many Pagan religions, being strong, powerful, and rich was honored. In Christianity we honor one who loved us so much he was willing to go to his death for our sake.

	24-03-2005 10:10									#30
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quote: Originally posted by Wycoff It's probably more like squashing fruits

Sorry... but that was