25-03-2005 14:32									#1
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Ok. This is may be a either a really stupid idea or a really terrible idea. -BUT- Is there any way (or is it a good idea) to give barbarians a modern unit like a modified Guerrilla or something so that they are more like Rebels in the modern era?

	25-03-2005 20:06									#2
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Yes, there are two AI land types [Basic & Advanced] along with one AI sea type.

No real restrictions, except the sea type should probably allow units to be onboard if you want Barbs forming camps on the coast from them.

And I think the AI would have more trouble against Guerrlias in the ancient era than humans.

	25-03-2005 23:23									#3
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Later in the game, in most games there aren't too many barbs anyway, so giving the barbs a modern-looking unit could mean barbs would have modern-looking units when you're still using swordsmen and horsemen. I guess that's why the stock C3C barb units are ancient era (warrior, horseman, maybe swordsman)-looking units and not more modern-looking units like partisans or guerillas.

Since most barbs would appear in the early REXing game, you would just have to be careful about making the barb stats too powerful. Obviously, a 6/6/1 barb unit would be kind of tough for ancient era civs to deal with.

	26-03-2005 00:11									#4
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That was my assumption and fear as well... Oh well...

	26-03-2005 00:33									#5
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The Stock units are:

Basic: Warrior
Advanced : Horsemen
Naval : Galley

It's noteworthy that barbs do NOT require access to the horse resource to get Horsemen.

Several of the Conquests though have different units.
Perhaps the strongest barbs are in Age of Discovery.

quote: Originally posted by Mace Later in the game, in most games there aren't too many barbs anyway, so giving the barbs a modern-looking unit could mean barbs would have modern-looking units when you're still using swordsmen and horsemen. I guess that's why the stock C3C barb units are ancient era (warrior, horseman, maybe swordsman)-looking units and not more modern-looking units like partisans or guerillas. Since most barbs would appear in the early REXing game, you would just have to be careful about making the barb stats too powerful. Obviously, a 6/6/1 barb unit would be kind of tough for ancient era civs to deal with.

	28-03-2005 22:56									#6
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Hmm...I always thought that the barb units didn't build until at least one civilization had the technology for the unit. This might require some testing, but if anyone knows the truth that would be best.

	28-03-2005 23:07									#7
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The European civs in Age of Discovery all start with the tech needed for the barbs normal pikeman. (1/3/1.)

This presents a bit of a challenge for the MesoAmerican civs who don't.

quote: Originally posted by Switch Hmm...I always thought that the barb units didn't build until at least one civilization had the technology for the unit. This might require some testing, but if anyone knows the truth that would be best.