11-04-2005 22:02									#271
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quote: Originally posted by Theseus Suggested by grahamiam: also, let's agree on a naming convention for the save. right now, its AU602-LA4-yearXXy.SAV wear XX = BC or AD and y = a, b, c, d, e, f first person is a, second is b, etc. however, i'm open for other naming conventions, as that's a bit long.

My pbem naming convention is simple: I don't touch a damn thing and the game provides a foolproof name with date that always lands where it should in the next guys save list.

	12-04-2005 02:39									#272
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AGREED!

	12-04-2005 03:43									#273
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As grahamiam pointed out, the default name is easily mixed up with any other save played by anyone playing the same tribe in any game...

	12-04-2005 03:55									#274
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Yes, some data is nice to have. You should basically enter three things in the save name:

• The game name.
  
• The name of the person the save is destined for (in case you need to post it, or you send to the wrong person).
  
• The date.

	12-04-2005 04:41									#275
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quote: Originally posted by Modo44 Yes, some data is nice to have. You should basically enter three things in the save name: The game name. The name of the person the save is destined for (in case you need to post it, or you send to the wrong person). The date. The format is not that important, just keeping the vital data in there. As to naming the file, you can always use the name of an older save and just change the date. This is easy and quick enough to do. Basically, you type most of it only once.

I agree... we should not be daunted by having a relatively complex standard for file names.

	12-04-2005 06:54									#276
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Um, the FFA game is set at Regent. Whoever set it up (Vulture?)- you need to set the difficulty in the staging window before the scenario is loaded. Civ3 PBEM is chock full of 'character'...

	12-04-2005 08:02									#277
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F*ck... well, can people live with that?

It would seem to me that the lower setting would allow for fewer MPs and other happiness measures... hmmm.

	12-04-2005 08:13									#278
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I think playing with Regent is fine. Let's just get this course moving.

	12-04-2005 08:29									#279
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I'm okay with it.

	12-04-2005 08:32									#280
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I guess its ok so long as it isn't at Prince level...

	12-04-2005 13:53									#281
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I set the scenario rules up so that Monarch was the only difficulty level allowed for any player. Does starting the scenario in PBEM completely ignore the difficulty setting in the scenario .biq? That's not good.

	12-04-2005 13:55									#282
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BTW the map is a cross between a pangea and three continents. There are narrow land bridges between the three continents, so it is technically a pangea.

Just so no-one makes any wrong assumptions based on what has been written before.

	12-04-2005 14:03									#283
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quote: Originally posted by vulture I set the scenario rules up so that Monarch was the only difficulty level allowed for any player. Does starting the scenario in PBEM completely ignore the difficulty setting in the scenario .biq? That's not good.

It does if you use a scenario (anything with a premade map). The difficulty level is automatically set to Regent. The only way I know of to change this is to edit the save (using C3MT, for example), and set both the general difficulty as well as the difficulty for every player to what you desire. I did so in a couple PBEMs, so I am pretty sure nothing else works.

	12-04-2005 17:40									#284
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I tried a few different things setting up the Iron Civer final and the only thing that seemed to make any difference was what the dropdown box said immediately before loading the scenario, IIRC.

	12-04-2005 19:02									#285
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With a scenario, you need to set the difficulty levels for each player individually when creating the scenario. Also, for PBEMs, you need to change the default difficulty in the multiplayer Game Setup screen. You need to do this after you load the scenario, because it reverts back to Regent if you do it in reverse order.

I've set up many games at various difficulty levels and I'm confident this works. Editing the save is not necessary.

	12-04-2005 19:56									#286
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I know what you mean, because it is no problem for the AU Mod, or others that include rules only.

But if you have a map in the scenario, the option to change the difficulty in the game setup is not available at all. Honestly, try to set up a game with a premade map to be anything but Regent difficulty. Then tell me how exactly you do it, because I never managed.

Last edited by Modo44 on 12-04-2005 at 20:02

	12-04-2005 20:48									#287
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quote: Originally posted by Dominae With a scenario, you need to set the difficulty levels for each player individually

Does that mean you can have players playing at differing difficulties? Sorta like a handicap...hmm....

	12-04-2005 23:27									#288
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quote: Originally posted by Modo44 But if you have a map in the scenario, the option to change the difficulty in the game setup is not available at all. Honestly, try to set up a game with a premade map to be anything but Regent difficulty. Then tell me how exactly you do it, because I never managed.

Well, what difficulty level are you playing at in the C3CDG?

After you load the scenario, the Game Setup interface tells you that you are locked into Regent. But this is just a bug. As long as you follow the steps I outlined above you should be able to set difficulty levels in MP scenarios.

	12-04-2005 23:36									#289
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Modo is not playing in that game...

	13-04-2005 00:33									#290
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quote: Originally posted by Dominae With a scenario, you need to set the difficulty levels for each player individually when creating the scenario. Also, for PBEMs, you need to change the default difficulty in the multiplayer Game Setup screen. You need to do this after you load the scenario, because it reverts back to Regent if you do it in reverse order.

The bold text got me all confused. The thing is you can not change anything after you load the scenario into the PBEM setup, because this actions turns off most of the controls (including the difficulty setting.)

But it is all good, as long as you change the difficulty level before loading the scenario. I just checked, and the magic worked. Thank you, Dominae.

Sorry for the slight threadjack.

	13-04-2005 01:13									#291
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Now I'm confused, because everything Modo said looks right [edit: except the original reply to vulture re: needing an edit. ]. I don't know if changing the individual settings actually does anything, but what Dom's saying isn't relevant here because this is a 'scenario' with a premade map. Once loaded, these scenarios only display "custom" in the dropdown box with no option to change. The actual difficulty level (as reported after the password is entered) is whatever the difficulty was set to before the biq was loaded, regardless of what the settings were in the editor (or at least if they were left on the default "any" setting).

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	13-04-2005 02:33									#292
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quote: Originally posted by Modo44 The bold text got me all confused. The thing is you can not change anything after you load the scenario into the PBEM setup, because this actions turns off most of the controls (including the difficulty setting.) But it is all good, as long as you change the difficulty level before loading the scenario. I just checked, and the magic worked. Thank you, Dominae.

Sorry. I knew there is a way of doing it...I just have to relearn it every time!

	13-04-2005 02:37									#293
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quote: Originally posted by Rommel2D Once loaded, these scenarios only display "custom" in the dropdown box with no option to change. The actual difficulty level (as reported after the password is entered) is whatever the difficulty was set to before the biq was loaded, regardless of what the settings were in the editor (or at least if they were left on the default "any" setting).

I remember that this was once an essential step, but maybe there's been a change since. I make sure to do both when I set up a scenario, just in case.

	13-04-2005 03:00									#294
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I just double-checked and leaving the player difficulties at default in the editor does mean the pre-load default setting is used for v1.22.

It sure doesn't look like it was designed that way from the beginning, tho...

	16-04-2005 10:58									#295
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So?

	16-04-2005 11:19									#296
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Um, so Dom's probably right that it once worked differently.

I would imagine that leaving obsolete features like this hanging around is an open invitation for bugs (not to mention confusion among amatuer modders)...

	18-04-2005 07:54									#297
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Hey guys, LOOONG time, no see.....

I would like to also play, if it's not too late to still enter that is.

quote: 1. Whether you want to be in an alliance or FFA game.

Both. Persia if possible

quote: 2. If alliance, who you have or would like as a partner. If possible, teams should include a mix of experience levels.

I haven't looked at who all is playing, but let's see who wants to team up

quote: 3. What level do you typically play at in SP?

Monarch, when I had last played SP, but then, I would rather play humans....

quote: 4. Pick one word: Builder, Warmonger, Warbuilder, Micromanager, Diplomat, Roleplayer, Evil Genius (OK, that’s two words), Banana

hehe... Micro-Planner

quote: 5. What civ(s) you’d like to play.

Persia

quote: 6. If you are not primarily an Apolyton poster, what site is your home?

I haven't been much of anywhere for sometime, for various reasons, but this sounds fun.

E_T

	18-04-2005 10:08									#298
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OMG E_T SIGHTING!

	18-04-2005 12:39									#299
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Looks like we need some subs in LA5 - have other LAs allready started off?

	18-04-2005 23:14									#300
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LA3 is moving. Very slowly but moving