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Theseus is offline Theseus

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Apr 2002
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Hopefully this works for everyone... I still think it would be much better for the purposes of the course if we maintained consistent order, even across the FFA game(s).

Dominae is offline Dominae
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Jan 2002
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Originally posted by snoopy369
And I guess i don't see the obsession with 'same map' and *ARs that the rest of you have. You can compare how a game goes without having exactly identical setups, or in this case just without having exactly identical civs in the identical starting locations. The game changes enough by 2900, who cares who started where? For a PBEM, you should be comparing how players reacted to the general game flow, which will ALWAYS be different, especially between the FFA and the LA games.


The idea is to learn how different pairs of players approach the concept of "team play". To do this, you need look at other people's games. It's easier to figure out what's going on in someone else's game if: 1) they are playing a map you are familiar with (i.e. the same map you are playing), 2) the civs are the same, 3) the starting locations are the same, 4) the turn order is the same, 5) the teams are the same.

So, although I agree that comparisons become more and more theoretical as the game progresses, there's still some value in sharing your version of the story, one that has a common beginning, with everyone else.

theDragon is offline theDragon
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Jan 2004
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The idea is to learn how different pairs of players approach the concept of "team play". To do this, you need look at other people's games. It's easier to figure out what's going on in someone else's game if: 1) they are playing a map you are familiar with (i.e. the same map you are playing), 2) the civs are the same, 3) the starting locations are the same, 4) the turn order is the same, 5) the teams are the same.


I agree.

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thanks to the civ godz vulture has volunteered, and says he can get it done tonight or tomorrow.


SWEET.

THANK YOU CIV GODZ!!!

snoopy369 is offline snoopy369

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Apr 2004
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  Old Post 06-04-2005 07:58
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Originally posted by Rommel2D

This is the default order (with Aeson on top), so we don't have a conflict for the FFA game, right?


Not true, krill was a problem in the default order.

Rommel2D is offline Rommel2D
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Feb 2003
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  Old Post 06-04-2005 13:09
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It's not like he's gonna get any sleep on that cold, wet rock anyway- he'll play when we tell him to...

vulture is offline vulture
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Leeds, UK
Jun 2001
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  Old Post 06-04-2005 13:22
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Just so everyone can plan ahead, the map is 90% done and I should finish it this evening (in the UK, BTW), and hopefully post it here (or send it to Theseus) by 17:00 GMT.

Krill is offline Krill
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Dec 2003
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  Old Post 06-04-2005 13:23
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Actually, apart from the time I have off for study leave (I basicaly have one week which has 8 exams, and another two exams a fortnight either side), I will be pretty regular when playing the save (5pm, BST).

I'll only play when you tell me to if you gift me techs, workers or gold (preferably in the order...)

toWERS is offline toWERS
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Sevilla la Nueva, Madrid
Nov 2004
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  Old Post 06-04-2005 15:47
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Hi, would like to join

1. Alliance

2. My teammate will be Mormegil

3. Emperor

4. Warbuilder

5. Donīt mind which civs we get

6. SCS

Burroman is offline Burroman
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May 2004
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Now we are six so LA5 is full

Theseus is offline Theseus

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Apr 2002
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  Old Post 06-04-2005 18:03
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I have re-jiggered the games just a bit to make things interesting from an inter-site perspective.

FYI, once the initial save is actually posted ( to vulture), LN and I plan on another publicity push, so hopefully there will be more players and games.

Attachment: au602-first teams.jpg
This has been downloaded 87 time(s).

jshelr is offline jshelr
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Apr 2002
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  Old Post 06-04-2005 18:57
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This has grown so complicated that I'll actually have to read the damn thing

Burroman is offline Burroman
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May 2004
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  Old Post 06-04-2005 20:40
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Originally posted by Theseus
I have re-jiggered the games just a bit to make things interesting from an inter-site perspective.


Much better.So we can know new people.
Hey Punkbass, nice to kill you again

punkbass2000 is offline punkbass2000
King
Waterloo, ON, Canada
Feb 2002
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  Old Post 06-04-2005 21:03
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We'll see how it goes in a real game... I'm winning the EPIC.

vulture is offline vulture
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Leeds, UK
Jun 2001
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  Old Post 06-04-2005 21:41
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Question: what's the best way to start the game? I've not played PBEM, but having tested how this works, it seems that once you load the scenario, there is no way to save the game until the end of player 1's turn. Should I just post the scenario .biq and trust to people not to abuse the administrator password / overview of world map, or is there a better way around this?

Krill is offline Krill
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Dec 2003
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  Old Post 06-04-2005 21:52
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One way around it would be for all of us to send our passwords to you Vulture, (so you also set up the admin password), and you start each game and add our passwords, and skip all of the turns until it is the first players turn. Then you send the save file to him, and we carry on normally from there.

vulture is offline vulture
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Leeds, UK
Jun 2001
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  Old Post 06-04-2005 22:35
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Got spare money?

Or, if I was feeling more lazy (as if ) I could just make up all the passwords myself and email them to the relevant players. Not as secure that way though...

Krill is offline Krill
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Dec 2003
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quicker, though...

go ahead, I want to play...I'm just bored diong physics right now...

vulture is offline vulture
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Leeds, UK
Jun 2001
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  Old Post 06-04-2005 22:44
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Bored of physics? What kind of fruit loop are you. (And no, I'm not being sarcastic - I was just looking for ideas for passwords, and was browsing along my bookshelf of title such as "Quantum Field Theory", "Feynman's operational calculus" and "Gravitation and Cosmology" (and Goethe's "Poetische Werke", but that's another story).

Rommel2D is offline Rommel2D
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Feb 2003
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  Old Post 06-04-2005 22:57
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After you launch the game, enter the admin password and exit out of the first player's turn; the autosave will record the admin password, but not the first person's. Just rename and send the auto save to the first person.

Skipping the first turn while entering passwords for the players is more secure, though.

Krill is offline Krill
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Dec 2003
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  Old Post 06-04-2005 23:00
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I prefer knowing how to make explosives (actually, makiing TNT is suprisingly easy, all you need is conc. H2SO4, conc. HNO3 and Toluene, which you can get by either stealing from the chemistry department, or various ways via reactions. Highest temperature required is only 423 Kelvin)

Theseus is offline Theseus

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Apr 2002
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  Old Post 07-04-2005 01:45
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vulture, did Rommel's answer suffice?

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  Old Post 07-04-2005 03:15
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Vulture, would you mind sending the admin password to me after you've made it? Thanks.

Theseus is offline Theseus

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  Old Post 07-04-2005 03:30
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Get a bigger avatar today!

Oh, and in the meantime, everybody should:

1) PM your email address to the player before you, and

2) If in an LA game, share your planned password with your partner.

tommynt is offline tommynt
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Apr 2005
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No player called morgemil have posted anything in this thread - I canīt even find the name when searching for users.
Are u sure that all these guys listed will play?
U canīt be sure - can there be anything done to check?

Burroman is offline Burroman
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May 2004
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  Old Post 07-04-2005 14:25
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Try with "Mormegil"

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Sep 2002
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thread post will be here at AU?

GAME names, make it easy and use
LA1
LA2 etc...
FFA

????

Maxfin is offline Maxfin
Settler

Apr 2004
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Could someone inform for this newbie whats going on with this game. When are we starting and what do I need to do. Also I would like to know excact settings for this game. Looks like it will be premade map so cutting down some MP parts of this game.

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Read the first page.

Krill is offline Krill
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Dec 2003
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1. 'Locked' alliances: Each game shall have 3 teams of 2 players each. Players are to select their teammates and which of the three culture pairs that are offered (i.e., Europe, Asia, and the Middle East). While not actually 'locked' in-game, the team mates are expected to stay allied throughout. Further, teams have the choice of playing as PBEM with a 'locked' alliance, succession, or mini-DG; this should be disclosed in their first DAR. Victory is achieved when a team's combined land and population reach 75%, or via any of the other default victory conditions.


quote:

* Team behavior: Team members may communicate anything and everything to each other, maps, screenshots, science, whatever. Non-team members may not communicate except what's available in game -- you may communicate anything that would be technically communicable in game, so once map trading is available you can give specific directions; once mil. alliance is available you may make a military alliance; once communication is open, you may discuss scientific advances. Communication with one team member is communication with both. [NOTE: Thanks to snoopy, who I quoted from "Team PBEM" for the above.] It is suggested that team members share passwords so that they can cover each other when playing turns.


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* Mandatory During-Action-Reports ("DARs"): This is where you'll post your exploits and strategy comments for all to see, and read those of others. However, keep in mind that these are spoiler threads, so try to finish playing each block before reading the corresponding thread. Each team or FFA player shall create their own thread, in the following format: 'AU602: Theseus / Vel's Euro DARs' or 'AU602: Sir Ralph's Asian DARs'. Level of disclosure TBD as we go along... check with the Administrator if in doubt; do, however, include each player's score at the time of the DAR. Team DARs should be joint reports by the partners. Players should not read opposing team's DARs. Reporting dates are:
- 2750bc: 25 turns, switching to 40 years/turn
- 1750bc: 25 turns, switching to 25 years/turn
- 1250bc: 20 turns
- 750bc: 20 turns, switching to 20 years/turn
- 250bc: 25 turns
- 250ad: 25 turns, switching to 10 years/turn
- 500ad: 25 turns
- 750ad: 25 turns
- 1000ad: 25 turns
- 1250ad: 25 turns, switching to 5 years/turn
- 1350ad: 20 turns
- 1450ad: 20 turns
- 1550ad: 20 turns
- 1650ad: 20 turns
- 1750ad: 20 turns, switching to 2 years/turn

[EDIT: Let me make this SUPER-clear: Players should NOTNOTNOT look at DARs from any but their matching civs/teams in other games, and not at any point DARs that are further along than their own game.]


I don't agree wth the bottom edit. What if Dominae explores in one direction, and I explore in another? I could look in Dominaes DAR, and gain a hell of a lot of additional info that otherwise would not have. I think this is a better way of writing it:


[EDIT: Let me make this SUPER-clear: Players should NOTNOTNOT look at any DARs until the completion of their PBEM (ie the PBEM is finished or that player is knocked out)]

This stops any player from gaining access to extra strats, tactics or info from the DARs. All IMHO, of course...

Last edited by Krill on 07-04-2005 at 20:37

Maxfin is offline Maxfin
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Apr 2004
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Yup all those things are very clear but still they didn't answer to my questions...

Which settings are we using?
Do we got some changes for standard rule set?
What I need to do prior receiving first save?

 
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