30-03-2005 06:21									#31
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isnt this the guy who Messed with the larry flynt guy

	30-03-2005 06:21									#32
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quote: Originally posted by Oerdin I think he's a shite bag but it is bad form to wish people dead.

Agreed.


But, there would be a certain irony if he dies before Schiavo.

	30-03-2005 06:32									#33
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quote: Originally posted by Mrs. Tuberski isnt this the guy who Messed with the larry flynt guy

yup... I bet Larry is popping the champagne right about now

	30-03-2005 06:45									#34
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quote: Dude, if you consider using army puters for Poly, and regarding it as stealing the gov bandwith for your own purposes, you need to get out and seriously loosen up. That's like Korean Code isn't it?

I'm joking, we are allowed to use the internet for whatever after working hours. Not for porn of course.

And it is the Navy

	30-03-2005 06:48									#35
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Then what is the internet good for? You just lost 99.99% of it's functionality...

	30-03-2005 06:58									#36
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quote: Originally posted by Spiffor Oh. Then I wish he dies quickly, without having the time to prepare an heir, and I hope his base of support will scatter between the many different reactionaries that will try to fill the void

A multitude of small voices can be a lot more dangerous than one large one.

	30-03-2005 06:59									#37
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The last thing he hears should be Carson Kressley's voice.

	30-03-2005 07:08									#38
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quote: Originally posted by Sava however, it's probably not a good idea that I visit his grave... it would get pissed on

Oh, that is SO rude. There are gay people lining up to dance there, you know, and all that imitation marble is terribly slippery as it is. Show some consideration, Sava.

I don't wish Falwell dead, myself...he's just another angry man who rabidly supports his probably mistaken beliefs without any thought or reflection. He probably does think that he's doing the right thing. There are lots of people like that in the world, and many more virulent.

The only thing that distinguishes him from any other nut is the peculiarity of his agenda and his effectiveness in advancing it. There are so many bigots in the world that there appears to be little sense in singling out the competent ones for our hatred. It would be wiser to hope this experience teaches him some sense somehow. That would take a miracle, but hey, I believe in a God.

	30-03-2005 07:13									#39
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Good luck pissing on that grave. He'll probably be buried in the center of fundy-u

	30-03-2005 07:15									#40
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Just before he dies, I want someone to lean over and tell him Bush is being impeached.

	30-03-2005 07:39									#41
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara Just before he dies, I want someone to lean over and tell him Bush is being impeached.

Don't you dare. That's like waving a can of spinach in front of Popeye. Lean over and whisper that in his ear, see what happens:

[cue peppy music]
"Ohhhh, so you got something against the heteros, eh? Well, I've gotta mutter mutter mutter..."
[tugging up his shirtsleeves, Rev. Falwell presses a button hidden in his bedside table. Miles away, Justice Scalia's eyes pop open and dilate with rage. Snatching the scales from a nearby statue of Justice, Scalia breaks it open to reveal a submachine gun. Clarence Thomas provides covering fire with a shotgun]
"The time has come! Your ass is mine, Kennedy! Mwahahahaha!"

Do you really want that on your conscience?

	30-03-2005 08:15									#43
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quote: Originally posted by Mrs. Tuberski isnt this the guy who Messed with the larry flynt guy

Yep, it's the same nutter.

	30-03-2005 08:17									#44
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quote: Originally posted by Sava yup... I bet Larry is popping the champagne right about now

Larry Flint was quoted on MSNBC as saying if he prayed he would pray for Jerry Falwell to make a full recovering so Jerry could keep harassing him for the rest of his life.

	30-03-2005 08:24									#45
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quote: Originally posted by Spiffor Were his followers of any political significance?

He was the founding father of "Moral Majority", the organization that hand delivered the fundamentalist vote to the Republican party. At the beginning of this year he announced that he was seeking to start a new movement along the same lines in order to insure that Bush's successor would be someone who would carry on the good work.

	30-03-2005 08:26									#46
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Must be why God is calling him home now. If four hurricanes weren't enough to get conservatives to realize where God's wishes lie, he's gonna have to do things more directly.

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quote: Originally posted by Elok I don't wish Falwell dead, myself...he's just another angry man who rabidly supports his probably mistaken beliefs without any thought or reflection. He probably does think that he's doing the right thing. There are lots of people like that in the world, and many more virulent.

Jerry Falwell was a vocal supporter of racial segregation during the 1950s and 1960s.

In 1994 1994, Jerry Sloan questioned Falwell about a homophobic statement he made about a gay church in which Falwell says "But thank God this vile and satanic system will one day be utterly annihilated and there'll be a celebration in heaven." Falwell flatly denied saying this and offered $5,000 to anyone who could produce a tape of him saying this, which Jerry Sloan promptly did. Falwell refused to pay and accused Sloan of tampering with the tape. Mr. Sloan took Mr. Falwell to court and won. Falwell appealed the case because the judge was Jewish and felt that he ruled against him because he was a gentile. In the end, not only did Falwell have to pay the $5,000 but he had to pay another $3982.90 for wasting the courts time.

Falwell has been under investigation for using his church's tax-exempt status illegally for political purposes, including open endorsements of right-wing candidates.

Falwell once proclaimed that the Antichrist will be a Jewish male who is probably "alive somewhere today."

"AIDS is not just God's punishment for homosexuals; it is God's punishment for the society that tolerates homosexuals." -- J. Falwell

Of course, there was also his blatant back-stabbing of his "friends" Jim and Tammy Faye Baker.

Also:

http://home.att.net/~vlaszlo/jerry_falwell_1.htm
http://www.salon.com/news/1998/03/cov_11news.html
http://members.freespeech.org/boblarson/falwell.htm

He's corrupt. He lies. He defrauds people. He violates laws. He's a racist bigot. Sorry, but I doubt even he is deluded enough to believe he's doing the "right thing." He's a fraud and I bet he knows it.

	30-03-2005 08:31									#48
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we need an applause smiley....

Boris

	30-03-2005 08:34									#49
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It's funny how normally non-religious people have this vague, superstitious notion of karma. The fact that Bill Gates seems healthy and fairly pleased with himself is proof there is no karma.

	30-03-2005 08:34									#50
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Boris

	30-03-2005 08:34									#51
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That being said, I don't "hope" he dies. But if he does, it won't illicit one ounce of sympathy from me. I'll just think of those who lay dying of AIDS and had to hear what he was saying about it.

	30-03-2005 08:35									#52
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What's wrong with hoping that someone dies/ wishing that they would die?

	30-03-2005 08:38									#53
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quote: Originally posted by Wycoff What's wrong with hoping that someone dies/ wishing that they would die?

Because life is precious and you only get one shot.

	30-03-2005 08:38									#54
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quote: Originally posted by Wycoff What's wrong with hoping that someone dies/ wishing that they would die?

It's a little tacky, but if the person is sufficiently evil, there certainly isn't anything wrong with it.

	30-03-2005 08:38									#55
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara Because life is precious and you only get one shot.

	30-03-2005 08:40									#56
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Even a burglar and drug-dealing pimp can become Malcom X. As long as you're alive, you can see the error of your ways and do something to make the world a better place. I admit, in Falwell's case, it's unlikely, but even Paul could see the light.

	30-03-2005 08:41									#57
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I proclaim that Boris has PWND Jerry Falwell.



However, if he really hates corrupt bigoted people who were vocal supporters of racism back when it was hip, then maybe it's time for him to give up on defending Robert Byrd. I got into an argument with him over this in January, and I think I have to bring it up in order to point out Boris's partisan slant in judging people.

quote: Jerry Falwell was a vocal supporter of racial segregation during the 1950s and 1960s.

This is enough for you to conclude that:

quote: He's a racist bigot.

However, I remember bringing up Byrd's use of the n-word on National TV in 2001, and his Klan membership of several decades ago, and that wasn't enough definitive proof for Boris that the man is a racist.



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	30-03-2005 08:45									#58
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quote: Originally posted by Jaguar I proclaim that Boris has PWND Jerry Falwell.

I proclaim that Jaguar has PWND Boris Godunov.

	30-03-2005 08:48									#59
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quote: Originally posted by Boris Godunov Jerry Falwell was a vocal supporter of racial segregation during the 1950s and 1960s.

I used to hear him preach about the evils of Federal intervention in local school systems with a little crystal radio I made when I was 10.

quote: Falwell has been under investigation for using his church's tax-exempt status illegally for political purposes, including open endorsements of right-wing candidates.

There's recently been a scandal in town. The mayor of Lynchburg, a black preacher, accepted a very large donation from Falwell's ministries. The mayor, who also sits on the city council, voted in favor of a development project in which some of the Falwells are said to have an interest. You know, it seems to me that the briber should be just as culpable as the bribee, but while the mayor remains under investigation, no one at the Falwell organizations is being asked to account.

	30-03-2005 08:48									#60
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quote: Originally posted by Dr Strangelove He was the founding father of "Moral Majority", the organization that hand delivered the fundamentalist vote to the Republican party. At the beginning of this year he announced that he was seeking to start a new movement along the same lines in order to insure that Bush's successor would be someone who would carry on the good work.

Such success is enough for me to want his movement dead (with the logical implication that he personally is either dead or senile) before he can take care of the heritage.

This is exactly the same reason why I can't wait to see Le Pen die. He managed to unite almost all of the far right behind his personality, despite the sectarism inherent to such extremistic beliefs. Should he die, the far right would become divided and irrelevant as it should be. I think Falwell is similar in terms of uniting sectarians.