03-04-2005 04:13									#241
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quote: Originally posted by The Mad Monk Only to keep at least one thread decent. That dosen't mean I have to approve of your behavior in this.

Oh, come on. I stuck up for the guy in this thread and was serious in the other thread. I just posted a couple of digs about the Papacy in good fun.

	03-04-2005 04:28									#242
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I was watching the TV news coverage and saw the interview with Cardinal McCarrick of Washington, DC and then saw the footage of Cardinal Egan at St. Patrick's. What a difference between these two.

McCarrick seems so humble, gracious, and kind. His manner is such that you feel like you could converse with him easily about anything. I was thinking, "wow, what a likeable guy." I'm sure he has no shot, but I'd like to see him as pope.

But Egan...dear lord, what an insufferable pompous blowhard. He's instantly dislikeable. He certainly fits the typical profile of stern disapproval one gets from self-important authority figures.

	03-04-2005 04:31									#243
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quote: Originally posted by Kuciwalker I haven't ever KNOWN another pope... he's been pope my entire life.

What do you care? I thought you were Jewish...

	03-04-2005 04:45									#244
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On the topic of his successor, there's been some talk in the papers here about a Cardinal Arinze from Nigeria, and also of Cardinal Reizinger (74) from Germany who's been described as having been very close to John Paul II.

A black Pope? Several commentators have pointed out that the appointing of a new Pope is nearly always a surprise to most people. And that the church is on a rise in Africa, which could be helped along further by electing Arinze.

It will be interesting to see what happens.

	03-04-2005 04:48									#245
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quote: Originally posted by Boris Godunov I was watching the TV news coverage and saw the interview with Cardinal McCarrick of Washington, DC and then saw the footage of Cardinal Egan at St. Patrick's. What a difference between these two. McCarrick seems so humble, gracious, and kind. His manner is such that you feel like you could converse with him easily about anything. I was thinking, "wow, what a likeable guy." I'm sure he has no shot, but I'd like to see him as pope. But Egan...dear lord, what an insufferable pompous blowhard. He's instantly dislikeable. He certainly fits the typical profile of stern disapproval one gets from self-important authority figures.

It's your guilty consciense

	03-04-2005 04:56									#246
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Today is a great day for John Paul II...it is the rest of us that are sad.

	03-04-2005 05:01									#247
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quote: Originally posted by Ned What we need is to make a married man Pope.

While it could happen, since the Pope is not required to be a priest, given that JPJ II selected all be three of the college of cardinals that select the Pope, it's likely the next Pope will be as rigidly conservative as you.

	03-04-2005 05:06									#248
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The RC church has some married priests.

	03-04-2005 05:10									#250
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There were some great none priest who became Pope. Laz wrote all about several of them.

	03-04-2005 05:23									#251
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quote: Originally posted by Agathon What do you care? I thought you were Jewish...

I'm an atheist, raised Catholic (my dad's Jewish), which is why I have a good deal of sympathy for the Catholics here.

	03-04-2005 05:26									#252
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If I was going to end my apostasy, I'd choose to be Catholic. I like all the rites and iconogaphy and stuff.

	03-04-2005 05:34									#253
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It's in fact quite nice. Some people say is too pompous, but keepin' the tradition isn't that bad. right?

	03-04-2005 05:45									#254
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I just wish that they'd make a Franciscan a Pope.

Franciscans have a long standing tradition of being human oriented. They take a vow of poverty that goes beyond most orders. Thomas Merton was one of them. I have a lot of respect for their work with the poor.

	03-04-2005 05:57									#255
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quote: I'm an atheist, raised Catholic (my dad's Jewish), which is why I have a good deal of sympathy for the Catholics here.

No true atheist could ever have sympathy for Catholicism. You better mail your atheist's card in.

	03-04-2005 05:59									#256
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quote: Originally posted by Agathon quote: I'm an atheist, raised Catholic (my dad's Jewish), which is why I have a good deal of sympathy for the Catholics here. No true atheist could ever have sympathy for Catholicism. You better mail your atheist's card in.

Atheism does not denote hatred. It simply disregards the notion of God.

	03-04-2005 06:01									#257
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Real atheism denotes contempt for the self deception of religious belief.


We don't like you, and you're wrong. And the sex is better for us.

	03-04-2005 06:04									#258
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I think it can be said that John Paul was a good Catholic, we all know this.

But the most important part of Karol Wojtyla's life was that he was a good man. This is what counts. Catholic, Protestant, Jewish, Muslim, Buddhist, Confuscist, Ateheist - still he was a good man.

	03-04-2005 06:10									#259
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Oh and Aggie, trust me, I'm going to hell, maybe to serve as one of Satan's minions. I don't believe in the adherance to religion. I know that in the end nothing matters.

But, while we're here, on whatever plain of existence this is, we might as well try to do something we believe is right. I don't hold contempt for anyone believing in something. I only hold contempt for their actions.

	03-04-2005 06:12									#260
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You sound interesting HT. How come I never notice you before?

	03-04-2005 06:13									#261
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quote: it's likely the next Pope will be as rigidly conservative as you.

Awesome!

	03-04-2005 06:17									#262
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quote: Originally posted by TCO You sound interesting HT. How come I never notice you before?

I like to speak from my heart now and then, that way my brain won't get in the way.

	03-04-2005 06:24									#263
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Well, HT... I'll buy you a Harvey Wallbanger at Hell's Bar and we can get off with the Olsen Twins.

I disliked the Pope's policies, particularly on women's rights and contraception. I don't see him, or any other religious figure, as being in the end a good person.

	03-04-2005 06:27									#264
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quote: Originally posted by Agathon Well, HT... I'll buy you a Harvey Wallbanger at Hell's Bar and we can get off with the Olsen Twins. I disliked the Pope's policies, particularly on women's rights and contraception. I don't see him, or any other religious figure, as being in the end a good person.

Opinions can be respected. I'll hold you to that drink.

	03-04-2005 06:33									#265
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quote: Opinions can be respected. I'll hold you to that drink.

Then, I'll hold you to the Olsen Twins.

	03-04-2005 06:34									#266
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quote: Originally posted by Agathon quote: Opinions can be respected. I'll hold you to that drink. Then, I'll hold you to the Olsen Twins.

	03-04-2005 06:36									#267
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara

It's true. There are married RC priests.

	03-04-2005 06:36									#268
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Come on... it is hell after all... it was either them or Tawny Kitaen.

Not a hard choice...

	03-04-2005 06:37									#269
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quote: Originally posted by Agathon quote: Opinions can be respected. I'll hold you to that drink. Then, I'll hold you to the Olsen Twins.

	03-04-2005 06:38									#270
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