02-04-2005 23:50									#1
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Gardening tips request

Spring is in full flow and my garden is overdue a revamp - it's quite small and faces east/north (in the Northern Hemisphere) so it doesn't get a lot of light.

Anyone got any tips for plants that don't need a lot of light and are attractive?

Or, even better, any private websites that host gardening forums? I'm kind of sick of browsing comercial seed sellers that just want to shift stock.

	03-04-2005 01:46									#2
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Plant zones for the UK and Ireland. What you plant and when you plant it depend upon which type of plant zone you live in. As you can see much depends upon the gulf stream when it comes to climate in the British Isles.

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	03-04-2005 02:01									#3
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To compare the US and Canada looks like this. Definitions of Gardening Climate Zones are given on right.

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	03-04-2005 02:02									#4
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I live in Zone 11.

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average annual minimum temperatures?

we certainly aren't 10 to 20 F

	03-04-2005 02:14									#6
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(Amongst other things) I'm wondering why there are little dots coming out of Scarborough and Eastbourne on that UK/Ireland map.

	03-04-2005 02:23									#7
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That's in case you want to do your gardening in the ocean.

	03-04-2005 02:35									#8
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quote: Originally posted by Cruddy Gardening tips request Spring is in full flow and my garden is overdue a revamp - it's quite small and faces east/north (in the Northern Hemisphere) so it doesn't get a lot of light. Anyone got any tips for plants that don't need a lot of light and are attractive? Or, even better, any private websites that host gardening forums? I'm kind of sick of browsing comercial seed sellers that just want to shift stock.

Cruddy, i'm surprised if you haven't thought of the good ol bbc website.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/gardening/

how about an ivy of some type? they grow well in darker aspects - just make sure you set up a frame for it to climb on(saves it destroying the walls in the longrun). But you'd probably be better off taking some photos of the area you want to grow stuff and take the pics to someone at a local gardening centre.

	03-04-2005 02:36									#9
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I'd suggest an herb and vegitable garden.

	03-04-2005 03:09									#10
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England is no worse than zone 7? You lucky SOBs. Up here in Zone 4 we have "Zone Envy." No magnolias, sycamores, evergreen hollies, etc. for us.

	03-04-2005 03:11									#11
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One is close to the gulf stream and the other is far, far from the moderating effects of warm ocean currents.

	03-04-2005 06:08									#12
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Thanks folks - especially Oerdin and Child of Thor.

BBC - it's such a big website it's hard to see what they haven't got. Here goes...

	04-04-2005 00:48									#13
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I wait ages for a gardening thread to come along, and then its on something I dont know the answer to! What a waste of space that 5 years experience turned out to be

Go on, ask me about turfing, or pruning apple trees or something....

	04-04-2005 09:29									#14
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Suppose your garden is to the north of your house. You can then paint the wall facing the garden white to reflect more sunlight.

	04-04-2005 15:08									#15
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quote: Originally posted by Urban Ranger Suppose your garden is to the north of your house. You can then paint the wall facing the garden white to reflect more sunlight.

Great advice. Except of course the north facing walls don't face the sun either.....

	04-04-2005 15:27									#16
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A pitty there aren't any gardening programs on the tele, a real shame I feel, someone ought to dome something about that!!

	04-04-2005 17:56									#17
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quote: Originally posted by Dauphin Great advice. Except of course the north facing walls don't face the sun either.....

I think he meant walls on the north side of the garden (which would be south facing).

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My gardening tip- employ a gardener or horticulturalist.

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How long have you been sitting on that word??

Doesn't even exist btw, it's "horticulturist".

	04-04-2005 20:50									#20
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quote: Originally posted by Oerdin I'd suggest an herb and vegitable garden.

I have a plot thats also light challenged - west of our townhouse, lots of overhanging trees (which i cant do anything about) I WANT to plant veggies, but all I read suggests that veggies want light - the better bet is certain species of flowers - there are a number that dont need much light. For veggies, lettuces work best apparently.

Ive planted carrots, to take advantage of the time before the leaves grow in on the trees. I have very little experience with gardening and am experimenting.


(north edge of zone 7 here, BTW)

	05-04-2005 00:33									#21
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Growing vegetables

Its one of the reasons i'm an anti gm person, growing food should be free(apart from the labour of it). Gm threatens this by being sterile(you cant propogate from your current produce).
I dont like the idea of big agro companies decided how much we should all pay for our rights to grow our food

	05-04-2005 00:37									#22
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quote: Originally posted by child of Thor Growing vegetables Its one of the reasons i'm an anti gm person, growing food should be free(apart from the labour of it). Gm threatens this by being sterile(you cant propogate from your current produce). I dont like the idea of big agro companies decided how much we should all pay for our rights to grow our food

I bought my seed packet for 10 cents (US) on sale at the drug store - Im surely not going to try to find seeds on a carrot to save 10 cents

	05-04-2005 00:39									#23
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and im not sure why GM seeds should mean the end of nonsterile seed sales. AFAIK Monsanto charges a PREMIUM for round-up ready seeds (seeds GMed to resist weed killer) There will always be small seed companies ready to sell you ordinary seeds at a price below Monsantos but high enough to make a profit.

	05-04-2005 17:21									#24
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quote: Originally posted by alva How long have you been sitting on that word?? Doesn't even exist btw, it's "horticulturist".

Oh alva, how could you doubt my expertise with my native tongue ?

" Charlie Dimmock
Famed for her lack of supportive underwear, (this means you can see her nipples when she's gardening)Charlie Dimmock's one of Britain's best-known gardeners. Ground Force wouldn't be the same without her.

Charlie started her career by training for four years as an amenity horticulturalist in Winchester and Somerset, as well as a year at the Chelsea Physic Garden in London. "


http://www.bbc.co.uk/gardening/tv_a...erbiogs_d.shtml


It's also in the Oxford English Dictionary.

For your punishment I will mistake you for a Frenchman for about a week, or until I receive a consignment of ganache and praline bombes (address to be provided).

	05-04-2005 17:29									#25
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Well, dictionary.com didn't know about it. You should give at some credit for looking it up.

The frenchman part isn't a issue btw, you should have said a Dutchman, then I might have sent you the goods.

	05-04-2005 17:39									#26
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quote: Originally posted by alva Well, dictionary.com didn't know about it. You should give at some credit for looking it up. The frenchman part isn't a issue btw, you should have said a Dutchman, then I might have sent you the goods.

Oh sorry, I had already mistaken you for a Walloon.

	05-04-2005 19:13									#27
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* alva inches to edge of seat...

now we're talking!! Should have gone for Brussels though.

	05-04-2005 19:17									#28
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quote: Originally posted by alva * alva inches to edge of seat... now we're talking!! Should have gone for Brussels though.

Only at Christmas.

There's a very funny death in a Hammer horror film from the early 70s by the way- Arthur Lowe (Captain Mainwaring in 'Dad's Army') has his head covered in pureed brussels' sprouts. Then locusts are let into the bedroom and his flesh is stripped away by the hungry insects along with the vegetable gloop.

I think it's in one of the Dr. Phibes' films....

	06-04-2005 17:20									#29
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quote: Originally posted by Dauphin Great advice. Except of course the north facing walls don't face the sun either.....

Well they do in the Southern Hemisphere, and depending on where you are in the Northern Hemisphere they can during the summer, though you are quite right that they are less than ideal in this context.