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Omnistar
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I have a very ugly dog, called Freddie, that can get them to talk, but only ask for him as a last measure. Freddie is the Devious Tents esthetical PsyOps project.
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Omnistar
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quote:
"The Bloodletter"
To the Grand Leader of Transsilvania
As both we are great aficionados of the very liquid driving mankind, blood, as well as the very matter driving knowledge, information, and for both having a sanguine passion for darker concepts, we have much to discuss. Once in the past, you mentioned the interest in trade across the oceans, and after some development of our aspiring nation, we are ready for that. Within reasonable time, we can as you diligently and reasonably proposed, set up a maritime trade route with your bloodred wines for our burgundy-red dyes and make our gothic cities prosper in their hedonistic shadows. The Horde is motivated for this next step.
Now that there are no more barbarian tribes to talk about, and your only direct borders are with Desolation Row and Babylon, and both sides are embraced in massive wars a long way away from you, the only that can be considered barbarians would be less civilized neighbors, and as both our bloody well aspiring nations are the only ones with wonders, we are by definition most civilized, in each our distinct way... As the Horde is a nation shaped by honor, warfare and courage, we have made war our way of life, but that does not mean we can not work on pair in fair and transparent agreements with partners. First of all, we want to discuss the balance of powers in the world and prospects for mutually assured survival, do you dare to meet me, Omnistar, for such a dialogue, or will you close me out as you closed out my colleague Nimitz. I am certain we can make this saga more interesting for us, and for third parties in the most curious way, if you are motivated for a new design of collaboration. A collaboration you in many ways can channel by your agenda.
We want trade, but not only in wines and dyes, but also in information and joint intelligence operations, so we can evolve our joint cognition.
I hope you dare to contact me and extend due courtesy in deepening those key issues.
Otherwise, there is little to change the preceeding course of events, events we are already in motion to set into existance. Indeed, existance is a most vital word.
From One Shadow in the Horde Administration |
I sent this to 1889, in his PM, let us see what happens
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Omnistar
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quote:
"The Bloodletter"
To the Grand Leader of Transsilvania
As both we are great aficionados of the very liquid driving mankind, blood, as well as the very matter driving knowledge, information, and for both having a sanguine passion for darker concepts, we have much to discuss. Once in the past, you mentioned the interest in trade across the oceans, and after some development of our aspiring nation, we are ready for that. Within reasonable time, we can as you diligently and reasonably proposed, set up a maritime trade route with your bloodred wines for our burgundy-red dyes and make our gothic cities prosper in their hedonistic shadows. The Horde is motivated for this next step.
Now that there are no more barbarian tribes to talk about, and your only direct borders are with Desolation Row and Babylon, and both sides are embraced in massive wars a long way away from you, the only that can be considered barbarians would be less civilized neighbors, and as both our bloody well aspiring nations are the only ones with wonders, we are by definition most civilized, in each our distinct way... As the Horde is a nation shaped by honor, warfare and courage, we have made war our way of life, but that does not mean we can not work on pair in fair and transparent agreements with partners. First of all, we want to discuss the balance of powers in the world and prospects for mutually assured survival, do you dare to meet me, Omnistar, for such a dialogue, or will you close me out as you closed out my colleague Nimitz. I am certain we can make this saga more interesting for us, and for third parties in the most curious way, if you are motivated for a new design of collaboration. A collaboration you in many ways can channel by your agenda.
We want trade, but not only in wines and dyes, but also in information and joint intelligence operations, so we can evolve our joint cognition.
I hope you dare to contact me and extend due courtesy in deepening those key issues.
Otherwise, there is little to change the preceeding course of events, events we are already in motion to set into existance. Indeed, existance is a most vital word.
From One Shadow in the Horde Administration |
I sent this to 1889, in his PM, let us see what happens
 Attachment: internal horde brief on dr.jpg
This has been downloaded 32 time(s).
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Omnistar
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LOSTBOYS does now have Lord Nuclear as their leader, and intelligence victory is now complete. I have him linked on MSN, and we may provide him more intelligence on DR.
Paddy, do you have any of Aqualungs statements in written format?
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Omnistar
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I had this chat with Lord Nuclear.
Main points:
He wants trade in our luxes
He wants non aggression treaty asap
He wants Intelligence treaty against DR
He may be interested in a formal military alliance on DR
This is our chance to get them out of the war.
Chat lasted 2200 - 0049 CET
Matt says:
Hey
Poetic Justice says:
hey
Poetic Justice says:
congrats
Matt says:
Thanks.
Matt says:
Sorry about earlier.
Matt says:
Sometimes I leave MSN on.
Poetic Justice says:
that is cool
Poetic Justice says:
no worries
Matt says:
Firstly, I think it's a good time to end this stupid war between our two nations.
Poetic Justice says:
very true indeed
Poetic Justice says:
Bards are already virtually gone
Matt says:
I've heard.
Matt says:
And, I'm a very formal person.
Matt says:
Being that is so, I'm going to request a NAP.
Poetic Justice says:
Non Agression Treaty ?
Matt says:
Indeed.
Poetic Justice says:
I need to discuss that at the Horde HQ
Poetic Justice says:
but we may be open to that, indeed
Poetic Justice says:
With a timeframe
Matt says:
Of course.
Matt says:
Would you guys rather have a formal, or informal alliance?
Poetic Justice says:
Again, that can be developed in two layers
Poetic Justice says:
certainly we can trade and have an intelligence pact
Poetic Justice says:
on top of that, non-aggression treaty
Poetic Justice says:
I think my top brass are open for it
Matt says:
Now, what specific intelligence are we talking about here?
Matt says:
Troop placement, and such?
Poetic Justice says:
about our neighbor
Poetic Justice says:
troop movements, rundowns and so on
Matt says:
DR?
Poetic Justice says:
DR in particular
Poetic Justice says:
DR is possibly the main reason we talk
Poetic Justice says:
as they are direct on your border
Matt says:
Indeed.
Matt says:
When do you think a war against DR would be good?
Matt says:
I need to plan ahead, of course.
Poetic Justice says:
for you ?
Poetic Justice says:
depends on what you got
Poetic Justice says:
Numidian Mercs and so on
Poetic Justice says:
have you got feudalism ?
Matt says:
Well, I think we should both go to war against DR.
Matt says:
As allies.
Poetic Justice says:
ok, a formal alliance then
Poetic Justice says:
to be honest, we got no lands in your area
Poetic Justice says:
I mean, we are interested in
Poetic Justice says:
what I suggest you to do, is to present your proposal , how you would like it
Poetic Justice says:
besides, we can provide more intel on the DR stack
Matt says:
Actually, I'd rather discuss the main points during a chat with you guys, which hopefully we can get rather soon.
Matt says:
And then we can work out the details after.
Poetic Justice says:
certainly
Poetic Justice says:
we should book a time
Matt says:
Could you bring that up to Paddy and the rest?
Poetic Justice says:
sure
Poetic Justice says:
an open ended chat
Matt says:
Exactly.
Matt says:
Are you in control of a province?
Poetic Justice says:
main point non aggression treaty
Poetic Justice says:
I am no governor
Poetic Justice says:
my job is diplomacy with LB and military intel Eastern Region
Matt says:
I assume Paddy is a governor, right?
Poetic Justice says:
the main leadership have provinces yes
Matt says:
Be right back.
Poetic Justice says:
ok
Matt says:
Back.
Poetic Justice says:
good
Matt says:
Oh, does Ljube have the authority to talk to me?
Matt says:
I don't want to get him in trouble.
Poetic Justice says:
Ljube is not in charge of diplo yet
Matt says:
Yet?
Matt says:
He will be?
Poetic Justice says:
I do not think so
Poetic Justice says:
I think he may be talking outside channels
Matt says:
Ah.
Poetic Justice says:
I will ask him to ease it
Matt says:
He's a friend of mine.
Poetic Justice says:
I am reporting to the HQ you see
Poetic Justice says:
yes, best to not mix friendship with the mtDG
Matt says:
lol
Matt says:
It's okay, Ljube and I have an understanding about betrayals and the like.
Poetic Justice says:
hehe
Poetic Justice says:
well, still, when we agree on something, we stick to it
Poetic Justice says:
AM is in a good shape
Matt says:
And so do we.
Matt says:
I mean I.
Poetic Justice says:
since they played ball
Matt says:
Has AM told you guys why they went after Babylon?
Poetic Justice says:
I am really unaware of Western Issues
Poetic Justice says:
probably some border incident
Poetic Justice says:
you know, AM can only go East and DR only go West
Matt says:
Yeah.
Poetic Justice says:
so you got to choose
Poetic Justice says:
your ally is crumbling
Poetic Justice says:
then you got DR, AM and BHO around you
Matt says:
It's definitely a problem.
Poetic Justice says:
so you got to play your cards right
Poetic Justice says:
your best chances are with BHO
Poetic Justice says:
as it stands
Poetic Justice says:
best intel, best organization, strongest military and so on
Matt says:
Let me tell you some info on the Lost Boys Hierarchy.
Matt says:
I'm currently the leader, and the minister of war, and the domestic minister, and the minister of finance, and the foreign affairs minister, and the Minister of Intelligence, and the Minister of Information.
Poetic Justice says:
haha
Poetic Justice says:
you got it all
Poetic Justice says:
we can possibly transfer one or two military advisors
Poetic Justice says:
put up a new forum of sorts
Matt says:
You mean how the Israelis and Palestinians do it? Have talks with just the military and security?
Matt says:
Or something else?
Poetic Justice says:
I mean, we can plan jointly on how to handle DR
Matt says:
Yeah, that would be good.
Poetic Justice says:
logistical lines make you their prime next target
Poetic Justice says:
and a non aggression treaty would handle your security concern with us
Matt says:
I'll tell you something.
Matt says:
They REALLY understimate our military strenghth.
Matt says:
*strength
Poetic Justice says:
I know that
Poetic Justice says:
you got Num Mercs
Poetic Justice says:
which are versatile combatants
Poetic Justice says:
possibly some swordsmen, catapults and so on
Matt says:
They put as at 5 units./
Poetic Justice says:
but you are sure weaker than us, we are 30 % stronger at number 2
Matt says:
*us
Poetic Justice says:
Bards are 21
Poetic Justice says:
I guess AM and DR are even with you
Poetic Justice says:
Babylon is weak
Matt says:
Where do you think we would have the chat?
Poetic Justice says:
but DR is clearly some stronger than you
Matt says:
Perhaps.
Poetic Justice says:
probably in MSN
Matt says:
Ah.
Matt says:
That's excellent.
Poetic Justice says:
DR have just dislocated their main stack
Poetic Justice says:
as you can see from both battle reports and our intel we gave you
Matt says:
Yeah.
Poetic Justice says:
just compare
Poetic Justice says:
it is very very close
Matt says:
Who would attend the chats, by the way?
Matt says:
I need to prepare before-hand.
Poetic Justice says:
possibly Plato, Chris, Paddy and me
Poetic Justice says:
depends really
Matt says:
Okay, sounds good.
Poetic Justice says:
have you got any people on board ?
Matt says:
One or two, but they aren't going to be sharing the power, so to speak.
Poetic Justice says:
hehe
Poetic Justice says:
nice
Poetic Justice says:
just grabbed a beer
Poetic Justice says:
sorry for that
Matt says:
No problem.
Poetic Justice says:
anyways
Poetic Justice says:
we can provide more specific intel
Poetic Justice says:
on DR
Matt says:
Ah. Excellent.
Poetic Justice says:
from my viewpoint, you got a few num mercs, swordsmen, couple of archers, some horsies and a couple of catapults
Matt says:
No comment
Poetic Justice says:
hehe
Poetic Justice says:
so how many turns for a non-aggression treaty ?
Matt says:
Hmm..
Matt says:
What do you think?
Poetic Justice says:
depends on the context
Matt says:
Of course.
Poetic Justice says:
when do you want it to start
Matt says:
As soon as possible.
Poetic Justice says:
I mean, no need to war when we cannot reach each other
Poetic Justice says:
well, we got some numerous cavalry
Matt says:
Poetic Justice says:
just about Keshiks
Poetic Justice says:
cannot tell how close
Matt says:
Okay, I need to get going. Talk to you later.
Poetic Justice says:
talk to you later
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Belgrade
May 2003
time: 06:33
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My chat with Lord Nuclear. I had this chat with him yesterday, shortly before he took over. Part of the chat is about Galactic Overlord.
Ljube says:
I have another question for you, unrelated
Ljube says:
before I go to sleep
Lord Nuclear says:
Sure.
Ljube says:
Are you going to take over Lost Boys?
Lord Nuclear says:
Possibl.
Lord Nuclear says:
*Possibly.
Ljube says:
that would be excellent
Ljube says:
cause you see, my team (Horde) and your team (Lost Boys) are now at war with no good reason
Ljube says:
1889 simply declared
Lord Nuclear says:
When I get in, I will rethink all current policies.
Ljube says:
he is yet to attack any of our units, hahaha
Ljube says:
such is his war, just to provide us with war happiness
Lord Nuclear says:
What do you think of a possible alliance?
Ljube says:
now, I don't mind the war happiness, but we would definitely wish to see better relations
Ljube says:
possibly alliance
Ljube says:
at least trade
Ljube says:
of luxuries
Lord Nuclear says:
Has Omnistar reported anything back to the forums?
Lord Nuclear says:
*forum
Ljube says:
yes, he reports regularly
Ljube says:
just not about his talks with you
Ljube says:
he just said he would talk with you
Ljube says:
not the contents
Ljube says:
we're not particularly interested in pursuing this war
Ljube says:
we didn't cause it and we sure didn't declare it
Lord Nuclear says:
Hmm..
Lord Nuclear says:
You want a war against DR?
Ljube says:
we have had many wars, how about peace for a change?
Lord Nuclear says:
Peace? To win is to be at war.
Ljube says:
you know, there isn't any nations we weren't at war or are not at war now
Lord Nuclear says:
Tell me, how did the war against Euphorica start?
Ljube says:
they betrayed us
Ljube says:
we had an agreement to destroy DR
Lord Nuclear says:
That's not what Omnistar told me.
Ljube says:
then bards withheld units, kept building secret army
Ljube says:
an army capable of ruining us, given the fact we had an ROP
Lord Nuclear says:
Meh.
Ljube says:
on top of that, they started building granaries and libraries
Ljube says:
is that determination to defeat a common enemy?
Ljube says:
we figured their plan was to let us bleed to death and then polish off both us and DR
Ljube says:
so we denied them the opportunity to betray us and struck first
Ljube says:
struck hard
Ljube says:
struck with vengeance
Ljube says:
struck decisively
Ljube says:
struck as if the hand of God
Lord Nuclear says:
Okay, enough with the propoganda.
Lord Nuclear says:
So you allied with DR, the one you wanted to destroy in the first place?
Lord Nuclear says:
How Machiavellian.
Ljube says:
lol
Ljube says:
well, if you put it that way
Ljube says:
guess who engineered the switch of policy
Lord Nuclear says:
Paddy?
Lord Nuclear says:
Ljube says:
Lord Nuclear says:
How do I know you won't betray me?
Ljube says:
bah, just perform in the battlefield and you're safe
Lord Nuclear says:
What's your relationship with AM?
Ljube says:
so - so
Ljube says:
we trimmed them a bit at start
Ljube says:
they may still hold that against us
Lord Nuclear says:
Now, tell me, how much of what you just told me were lies?
Lord Nuclear says:
(arr)
Ljube says:
LOL, hehe, I guess you'll never know
Ljube says:
I'm under the strict directive coming from Chief Chrisius, deputy to our Khan and head of the blood cell
Ljube says:
All internal info is strictly confidential
Lord Nuclear says:
I'm no fan of despotism.
Ljube says:
not despotism, order, organisation, everybody has their part
Lord Nuclear says:
Doesn't Paddy control everything?
Ljube says:
most of the things
Lord Nuclear says:
This isn't a Demo Game, it's a Despo Game.
Ljube says:
we still get to vote
Ljube says:
on what the name of the next unit is going to be
Lord Nuclear says:
lol
Lord Nuclear says:
Despite this, I believe an alliance is advantageous.
Ljube says:
OK, I think I can share with you that I'm one of the Princes of the Horde.
Ljube says:
I rule one region, the Northern province to be exact.
Lord Nuclear says:
Ah, you guys are Feudalistic.
Ljube says:
yes, becoming
Ljube says:
this is a new thing
Ljube says:
previously we were despotic
Lord Nuclear says:
Totally despotic?
Ljube says:
well, not totally, but now regional commanders more independent
Ljube says:
and command the troops as well
Ljube says:
Although Bongo is still our Military Commander in Chief.
Lord Nuclear says:
Cool.
Ljube says:
we have many active members
Lord Nuclear says:
We do not.
Ljube says:
Bongo is Prince of the Province called Bongolia as well.
Ljube says:
This is the first time this province is mentioned outside of our team, but it will soon become well known.
Lord Nuclear says:
Bongo, Chris, you, Nimitz, Oministar, Paddy, and Rubychaser are your active members?
Lord Nuclear says:
Why will it become well-known?
Ljube says:
that one is under operational security
Ljube says:
Lord Nuclear says:
That gives it away in itself.
Ljube says:
hehe, you draw your own conclusions
Ljube says:
Rob is also active, so is jagjef
Ljube says:
also Plato
Lord Nuclear says:
Wow.
Lord Nuclear says:
You're very lucky.
Ljube says:
granpa troll comes from time to time
Ljube says:
recently not so often, but he's been away
Lord Nuclear says:
Unofficially speaking, what do you think of Paddy?
Ljube says:
Excellent warrior and spirited leader.
Lord Nuclear says:
Cut the bull-****.
Lord Nuclear says:
Is that Orwellian for Barbarian and God-King?
Lord Nuclear says:
Ljube says:
hahaha
Ljube says:
I hope you liked my role play
Ljube says:
I used to post that in the public threads, but many people didn't like, called me liar, idiot and such.
Lord Nuclear says:
You were rather aggresive.
Ljube says:
I didn't mind the names, but I thought what's the point of posting stuff like that if it irritates people.
Ljube says:
yes, well I like it a bit aggressive
Ljube says:
spiced up
Lord Nuclear says:
Ljube says:
I think this is a beginning of a new era of cooperation and friendship between out two nations.
Ljube says:
I do hope you take over and take over soon.
Lord Nuclear says:
May Baal bless you.
Lord Nuclear says:
Baal = God of Carthage
Ljube says:
indeed
Lord Nuclear says:
I'm going to be drawing more upon the Carthaginian side of the Lost Boys, and lose some of the Vampire-related things.
Ljube says:
that would be far better as vampires are not liked in the world
Ljube says:
they suck blood
Lord Nuclear says:
Not liked in the world, or in BOH?
Ljube says:
lol, BOH = the world
Lord Nuclear says:
What did you think of 1889?
Ljube says:
nothing good
Ljube says:
he attacked me personally a few times without any reason
Ljube says:
also he strated to delay turns just to pite us
Ljube says:
spite
Lord Nuclear says:
lol
Ljube says:
that's why the Horde is rejoicing at your arrival
Lord Nuclear says:
They assume I'll be different?
Ljube says:
Indeed, youi are loved among the horde
Lord Nuclear says:
lol why?
Ljube says:
Paddy personally expressed his likling of you in a conversation with me.
Ljube says:
And the will of thge Khan is the will of the Horde.
Lord Nuclear says:
We need a name for our alliance
Ljube says:
Don't know why. I guess everybody sick and tired of 1889.
Ljube says:
Hoping for a fresh strat
Lord Nuclear says:
Well, tell your team I look forward to an alliance, and we should have a team chat soon.
Ljube says:
excellent news
Ljube says:
I won't report it in our thread right away as I must sleep first, but when I wake up, I will report your friendly proposal.
Lord Nuclear says:
Perfect.
Ljube says:
see you then
Ljube says:
bye
Lord Nuclear says:
Good night.
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Poetic Justice says:
hey
Matt says:
Hey.
Poetic Justice says:
I need for the Horde HQ to get back
Matt says:
Ah.
Poetic Justice says:
We are on peaceful terms with DR still
Poetic Justice says:
and we need to stick to agreements
Poetic Justice says:
as long as one everyone does what we are saying, all is good
Matt says:
What does that mean exactly?
Poetic Justice says:
it means, what all sides agree on
Matt says:
You guys are against a formal NAP?
Poetic Justice says:
we ca go for a former NAP
Poetic Justice says:
can
Poetic Justice says:
just let us work out the case
Poetic Justice says:
now this is up to the upper leadership
Poetic Justice says:
but we are positive
Poetic Justice says:
just letting you knpw
Poetic Justice says:
know
Poetic Justice says:
you will get an invitation shortly
Matt says:
Sorry about that.
Poetic Justice says:
Poetic Justice says:
you will get an invitation shortly
Poetic Justice says:
are you posting these logs in the LB HQ ?
Matt says:
To who?
Poetic Justice says:
LB HQ
Poetic Justice says:
main thread?
Matt says:
That would be incredibly dumb.
Poetic Justice says:
ok good
Matt says:
I don't wish to fill Bab in with everything.
Poetic Justice says:
that is ok
Poetic Justice says:
so Babs and DR is not getting anything ?
Matt says:
Nope.
Poetic Justice says:
good
Matt says:
Why do you ask?
Poetic Justice says:
DR will have its forces back in a few
Poetic Justice says:
a huge stack intact
Matt says:
I'm not prepared to attack them just yet.
Poetic Justice says:
I cannot say anything right now, I am under orders to wait for the Horde diplomatic leadership
Poetic Justice says:
but we are positive, and you will get a reply within a couple of days
Poetic Justice says:
that is, before your turn
Poetic Justice says:
sounds good ?
Matt says:
Yeah.
Poetic Justice says:
we just want this turn posted
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Of the occupied South
Dec 2002
time: 23:33
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Contact with lord Nuclear has been achieved:
Lord Nuclear says:
Hey PLATO.
Plato says:
Hey there Lord Nuclear!
Plato says:
How are you?
Lord Nuclear says:
Very good. And you?
Plato says:
Doing great. Beautiful day here
Lord Nuclear says:
How's BOH?
Plato says:
The wonder of the world!
Plato says:
You getting a handle on the Lost Boys?
Lord Nuclear says:
Yup.
Plato says:
Ever figure out why 1889 declared war on us? hehe
Lord Nuclear says:
No, I'm not really sure.
Plato says:
One minute we are talking trade and then Bam! we are at war.
Plato says:
Go figure...hehe
Lord Nuclear says:
Are you guys offering peace this turn?
Plato says:
Well, we might be interested in talking peace. Not really sure about your situation just yet
Plato says:
Let's build a little trust first. We are not attacking you this turn if that is what you are asking.
Lord Nuclear says:
Very good.
Plato says:
We have many things to discuss...trade possibilities, relationships with other civs...we can talk about all that in a comprehensive peace talk
Lord Nuclear says:
Yes, I discussed that with Omni.
Plato says:
Well...Omni is not authorized for those talks. He is a great part of the Horde, but not in diplomatic core. I am your only official contact
Lord Nuclear says:
WHAT?
Lord Nuclear says:
He lied to me, then.
Plato says:
Well, not really...Let me explain
Plato says:
He was sent to 1889 on a one time only emissary mission to open talks. We had a very hard time getting response from him and had tried several emissaries before.
Plato says:
He was just going perhaps a little further than his mandate. I am sure he did not mean to mislead you.
Lord Nuclear says:
Okay, that's fine.
Plato says:
We are very desirous to build a relationship though, so in that he was right on.
Plato says:
I wanted to give you a couple of days to get settled in and get a grip on your empire before I bothered you. So lay the fault with me for not talking with you sooner.
Lord Nuclear says:
I'm not too upset.
Plato says:
hehe...that's good.
Lord Nuclear says:
What's a good time for a chat?
Plato says:
I should be available some this evening or Tuesday morning after 10AM US Central time. Where are you located at?
Plato says:
I do have a little time now as well.
Lord Nuclear says:
I'm under PST.
Plato says:
okay then...that is 2 hours behind me? 2:25PM Sunday there now?
Lord Nuclear says:
Yup.
Plato says:
Cool. much easier when we on the same side of the planet...hehe
Lord Nuclear says:
Indeed.
Lord Nuclear says:
And what about a time for a whole-team chat?
Lord Nuclear says:
With Paddy and the upper-management?
Lord Nuclear says:
Or whoever you want to bring, really.
Plato says:
I represent the Horde. We are many and gathering just the active players is hard to do. When we get ready to finalize something then I can bring Paddy in for his signature. If you need a witness for something then Chrisius Maximus is my direct report to and he can join us. However, I have FULL authority to negotiate for the Horde
Lord Nuclear says:
Okay, that's great, and it'll be really easy to work with you guys then. HOWEVER, I think it would be a sign of goodwill if both of our teams met up with each other, and had a chat. It doesn't have to really be an important chat, we could even talk about random and general things, but I think it's a good idea to have some sort of goodwill chat.
Plato says:
Not a bad idea. Let you and I lay some groundwork and I will bring the matter to the council.
Lord Nuclear says:
Okay, great.
Plato says:
Shall we start with trade possibilities?
Lord Nuclear says:
Sure.
Plato says:
Some time ago, 1889 had indicated that you had a harbour available for trade. Is this the case?
Plato says:
Or would we need our public works departments to make a loooooong road? hehe
Lord Nuclear says:
Hmm..
Lord Nuclear says:
We'll have a harbor in a few turns.
Lord Nuclear says:
It was delayed, unfortunately.
Plato says:
I understand. We will have a harbour soon as well. 1889 also said that he had navigated the globe. Thought that was a bit far fetched, but wanted to see if the water route was open
Plato says:
So is that our preferred method of trade or should we work on some kind of roading proposal?
Lord Nuclear says:
Well...
Lord Nuclear says:
It might be hard to complete a road across the world.
Plato says:
hehe...indeed. That is my thought. It could make our trade very vulnerable to any.
Lord Nuclear says:
I suggest using the harbor.
Plato says:
good. The have you sailed to our shores, or would the water route need to be opened?
Lord Nuclear says:
I believe we have.
Plato says:
cool. So then we will have the route. That is good. We have excess of dyes and I believe you have wines. Is that right?
Lord Nuclear says:
Yes, that is correct.
Plato says:
Then we have the basis for good trade among us. Excellent.
Plato says:
Next, i would like to talk of relations with your neighbors. We are friendly with one at the moment and at war with the other. How do you see your relationships with DR and Babs progressing.
Plato says:
It seems that you have some issues with DR from the comms you had with Omni...
Lord Nuclear says:
Ah, yes.
Lord Nuclear says:
I'd prefer if Babylon survived for now.
Lord Nuclear says:
Do you know why AM attacked them?
Plato says:
No. Was a total shock. We had just got involved in a war with them. I guess AM was being opportunistic and had to do something with their military...hehe
Plato says:
Looks like a pure land grab really. AM and us have lukewarm relations due to an early war. Peace was costly for them.
Lord Nuclear says:
Don't some people think AM is your vassal?
Plato says:
Haha...I can see why. We received tribute for a while for the peace deal, but that was about it. It is more like we just leave each other alone right now. They are not strong enought to come against us and we are otherwise occupied...hehe
Lord Nuclear says:
Well, anyways, I rather hope AM gets destroyed.
Plato says:
What is LB's relationship with AM?
Plato says:
ahh...that answers that...haha
Lord Nuclear says:
Also, I'd hope that you not attack Babylon.
Plato says:
Well, that is difficult. Relations with babylon have improved slightly since the war began, but I believe they have a large cache of gold. We certainly don't want that all falling into AM's hands...hehe. What is your interest in their survival?
Lord Nuclear says:
Balance of Power issues.
Lord Nuclear says:
Plus, if AM is right next to us, we have to be wary of an attack.
Lord Nuclear says:
You could always attack AM...
Plato says:
But not wary of a rebuilt babylon?
Lord Nuclear says:
Not as much.
Lord Nuclear says:
They are significantly damaged.
Lord Nuclear says:
And I like Beta.
Plato says:
haha...the thought has been discussed. We wish the power equity to stay in our favour as well. Do you fear you may have a problem on your othet boarder?
Lord Nuclear says:
DR
Lord Nuclear says:
*?
Plato says:
yep
Plato says:
We are curious weather when the bards are eliminated weather they will come for us or for you. Our general staff seems to think it might be you. We have no intel on that, just the general feeling given the power equities.
Lord Nuclear says:
They under-estimate our military.
Lord Nuclear says:
If they go after us, they'll be destroyed.
Plato says:
heeh...Then you have no worries. If DR scares you not, then AM certainly should not. Dr is a very powerful force. We respect their military abilities
Lord Nuclear says:
Oh, but I do
Plato says:
How is your relationship with them? When 1889 was running things, we knew it was very close
Lord Nuclear says:
DR and AM together could destroy us.
Lord Nuclear says:
With DR?
Plato says:
yes, DR
Lord Nuclear says:
And I didn't say that DR attacking me wouldn't destroy me as well.
Lord Nuclear says:
We are close.
Plato says:
That is good. We have had much success with them since we achieved peace in bringing the bard war to conclusion
Plato says:
We are just not sure what their intentions are once that war is done. It seems unlikely that they will remain at peace given the way this game has gone
Lord Nuclear says:
True.
Plato says:
Well, still not sure where you stand on things. It is a bit confusing. Other than you don't like AM. You had chatted with Omni about possible alliance against DR and tell me you are close to them. I am unsure what to think. Can you clarify things? We need to know these things if there is to be a peace.
Lord Nuclear says:
Whether I'm close to DR is irrelevant to the fact that I want them dead.
Lord Nuclear says:
We aren't allied, just friendly.
Plato says:
haha okay
Plato says:
So, if peace with us is obtained, then is that your goal? And is that just predicated on weather or not we participate?
Lord Nuclear says:
Yes.
Plato says:
Yes to which?
Lord Nuclear says:
Both.
Plato says:
So you only war on them offensively if the Horde comes with you? Other than that you remain friendly, is that right?
Lord Nuclear says:
Yes.
Plato says:
Okay. Now that is getting somewhere. How will it affect our relations if we go ahead and destroy babylon, and what is in it for us if we do not?
Lord Nuclear says:
Destroying Babylon will severly weaken our relationship.
Lord Nuclear says:
I'd rather not have you on two different borders.
Lord Nuclear says:
As to what happens if you don't destroy them. Nothing comes to mind, really. Except perhaps winning the games.
Lord Nuclear says:
*game
Plato says:
We have no interest in obtaining ther land. We just are not sure that we could ever trust them again. It is a difficult choice. We share some of your reasons for wanting them to live, but have many not to as well. So, are you Beta's advocate in this matter?
Lord Nuclear says:
As far as I know.
Plato says:
hehe...sounds unofficial then? hehe
Lord Nuclear says:
Well, I just got into office, and haven't done all too much diplo.
Lord Nuclear says:
I'll get back to you on the case on Bab though.
Plato says:
hehe...indeed.
Plato says:
Perhaps we have enough for our first meeting. Shall we get back together on Tuesday? I will raise these matters with the Horde
Lord Nuclear says:
That sounds good.
Plato says:
Excellent. I shall await your contact on Tuesday. Take care! Bye for now
Lord Nuclear says:
Bye.
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Omnistar
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Matt says:
Hey.
Poetic Justice says:
hey
Poetic Justice says:
Matt says:
Any news from your team?
Poetic Justice says:
we need to get our turn first
Poetic Justice says:
to see what happened
Poetic Justice says:
then we can decide
Poetic Justice says:
but they are warm on cooperation with you
Matt says:
I have rethought my position with Bab.
Poetic Justice says:
aha ?
Poetic Justice says:
your friends?
Matt says:
Yeah.
Matt says:
Are you guys interested in going after them?
Poetic Justice says:
no idea about the West Side
Poetic Justice says:
our main task now is to end Euphorica
Poetic Justice says:
you know, Plato is the foreign affairs man
Matt says:
Yes.
Poetic Justice says:
I just acted a bit faster than they thought
Matt says:
How many turns do you think it will take you to destroy Euphorica?
Poetic Justice says:
depends
Poetic Justice says:
DR units clogging the roads and so on
Matt says:
You think around 8?
Poetic Justice says:
hmm
Poetic Justice says:
Ljube is the military man
Poetic Justice says:
so I need to consult him
Poetic Justice says:
we got specialists for every role
Poetic Justice says:
I need to wait next turn gets in
Matt says:
Yeah.
Poetic Justice says:
you can understand that
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Ljube
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Belgrade
May 2003
time: 06:33
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A short chat with Lord Nuclear, apparently following the chat he had with Omni.
Lord Nuclear:
Hey Ljube.
Ljube:
hello
Lord Nuclear:
How's BOH?
Ljube:
excellent, thanks for asking
Ljube:
and how are you?
Lord Nuclear:
Very good.
Ljube:
have you taken over yet?
Lord Nuclear:
Yeah.
Lord Nuclear:
Although I've been having computer problems, so I've been getting other people to play the save.
Ljube:
lol
Lord Nuclear:
Lord Nuclear:
Anyways, would you guys be interested in taking out Bab soon?
Ljube:
this is an interesting proposal
Lord Nuclear:
You will have found that I have changed my mind.
Ljube:
I can't answer for the horde, but I can convey your message to our leaders and diplomats, namely our council
Ljube:
have you expelled the babylonian elements from your forum?
Lord Nuclear:
Militarily speaking, when will you be finished with the Bards?
Lord Nuclear:
They will be expelled shortly.
Ljube:
Well, I estimate that bards will expire in not more than 5 turns. After all, they only have one city left.
Lord Nuclear:
True.
Lord Nuclear:
By the way, I NEED NEED NEED NEED a NAP from you guys.
Ljube:
OK, that too will be under discussion in our council
Ljube:
we'll have a council meeting probably during this weekend
Ljube:
after that I think Ambassador Plato will want to talk with you regarding our future relations.
Lord Nuclear:
Yeah.
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13-08-2005 04:04
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