04-04-2005 03:18									#1
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I play a lot of Ages Of Empire and sometimes I use a scenario where I have a large walled area and fend off several tough ai's

I was thinking of something along the same lines in CTP

Any ideas how I could accomplish this?

A Few possibilities are:

A-Edit a map where I have an Island and surround by mountainous terrain and deep ocean water

B-Look into the terrain and see if I could make certain terrain impassable until a certain age or terraforming ability

C-If possible could a "Gate" be used/implemented at a mountain pass? (Like a Zone of Control checkpoint) where units only for that civ could pass through?

Just trying to come up with something..brainstorming sort of

Thanks

Gramps

	04-04-2005 15:01									#2
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Impassable terrain is another one of those things it's easier to do in CTP2 (see the war of the ring scenarion, which used it effectively).

In CTP you have to emulate impassable terrain by undoing the movement of any unit that moves onto it, which is a little messy, and the AI probably wouldn't cope with it.

I think the biggest problem with this idea is that it's not easy to prevent the AIs fighting amongst themselves...

	05-04-2005 03:15									#3
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quote: Originally posted by J Bytheway Impassable terrain is another one of those things it's easier to do in CTP2 (see the war of the ring scenarion, which used it effectively). In CTP you have to emulate impassable terrain by undoing the movement of any unit that moves onto it, which is a little messy, and the AI probably wouldn't cope with it. I think the biggest problem with this idea is that it's not easy to prevent the AIs fighting amongst themselves...

What I have been mulling over is this:

Make a big map 25 civs

and set me on a secluded gated er ugh MOUNTAIN lined Island

Then

Make deep ocean tiles like a moat around it

BUT

at several points makes like an Island Chain so the AI can still navigate to get to me and well Ill let ya all know how it fairs

Just trying to mix em up (ideas for varying game play that is)

Ill share how it turns out once I do it

Gramps

	08-04-2005 19:44									#4
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Probably the easiest way to make the mountains unpassable is to remove the MOVEMENT_TYPE_MOUNTAIN flag from all units. Unfortunatly I don't see a way to remove the ability of building roads on mountains.

-Martin

	08-04-2005 22:39									#5
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quote: Originally posted by Martin Gühmann Probably the easiest way to make the mountains unpassable is to remove the MOVEMENT_TYPE_MOUNTAIN flag from all units. Unfortunatly I don't see a way to remove the ability of building roads on mountains. -Martin

That would be an idea..for the ai would have to build sea tunnels first to get to me before buildings roads,railroads or maglevs..

Thanks for the reply Martin

Gramps

	10-04-2005 18:32									#6
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Check out my flat map support mod, that's included in the Med Mod (I guess I need to add it to the Directory one of these days...) -- it creates a double row of indestructible units on the sides of a map. You could do the same thing here, but remove those units when you no longer need them.

	10-04-2005 18:36									#7
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quote: Originally posted by Locutus Check out my flat map support mod, that's included in the Med Mod (I guess I need to add it to the Directory one of these days...) -- it creates a double row of indestructible units on the sides of a map. You could do the same thing here, but remove those units when you no longer need them.

so I would d/ the med mod and it has it there?

thanks fer helping

Gramps

	10-04-2005 20:21									#8
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I'll make it a little easier for you, here's the version that works on the original game (to see how it works, just unzip and start as a scenario. You'll find the units on the side egdes of the map.

You can modify it for your scenario by adapting scenario.slc, but you may need my help for that. Just try it out first and see if this is the kind of thing you're looking for.

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	10-04-2005 20:22									#9
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Here's the custom version, which may be useful if you want to encorporate this into an existing scenario/mod. See readme for instructions on how to do so.

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	10-04-2005 21:03									#10
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Thanks a bunch Locutus

I will try sometime today

Ill let ya know how it works

Gramps