04-04-2005 10:40									#1
	My patriocy declines again: Do we really have one united army? Inflate your Upload Space

My very good friend who served in paratroopers was seriously wounded on duty. It was something like "routine training" It's because of stupid commanders that do not care about anything. Now army tries to do some silly trick on him to deny involvement and not give compensation and not pay for surgery. They even do not want to aknowledge easily detectable physical unabilities of his right arm due to the trauma.

My patriocy level is declining again. Some people here say that they live on military base "like in friendly family", while some other Israeli soldiers say "Commanders do whatever they want and never stop reminding us that slaves have more rights, than we have". Why? It looks like each separate military base considers itself as almost independent private army.


I'm very sad.

	04-04-2005 11:56									#2
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welcome to a society that cherishes its conscription.

	04-04-2005 12:24									#3
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Is "patriocy" a neologism derived from "patriotism" and "idiocy"?

	04-04-2005 12:36									#4
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It sucks your Army doesn't have more accountability but it is just about every army on Earth where an enlisted man has fewer rights then a slave. That's one reason I got out, but, at least if you can earn your way into a top unit you will be treated better.

Paratroopers have a dangerous job and I can remember someone getting injured on every jump I made. You'd just be sitting on the plane, looking around at all these healthy people, and thinking "which one is it going to be; who will get it this time?". Some one always got blown off the drop zone by wind and into the trees, someone would land on a rock or a tree stump (one guy got a broken tree limb through his leg), or some idiot would land wrong and break a leg. It always happened.

	04-04-2005 13:41									#5
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I'm sorry to hear about your friend, that sucks

	04-04-2005 13:44									#6
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quote: Originally posted by Comrade Tassadar antisemite

I love you teh tassadar

	04-04-2005 14:17									#7
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Sad to hear! There is no insurance that covers this?

	04-04-2005 22:17									#8
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quote: Originally posted by Atahualpa Sad to hear! There is no insurance that covers this?

In theory it is but it is hard to get. Military doctors usually say "Nothing abnormal found" even in the most obvious cases. So even army allowed you to visit civilian doctor it does not mean that army acnowledges his deagnosis.

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Contacted him today. Army will pay for surgery.

	10-04-2005 16:42									#11
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Good to hear

	10-04-2005 16:44									#12
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Army is quite a mess nowadays. They got loads of budget in the 90s, then got cuts... Everything has gone to the dumpster. Manpower placement issues, equipment upgrades, everything is messed up, 'cept for the sweet life in the airforce.

Fat airforce.

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quote: Originally posted by Az Army is quite a mess nowadays. They got loads of budget in the 90s, then got cuts... Everything has gone to the dumpster.

Sounds like the USA a decade (or less) from now.

	10-04-2005 23:40									#15
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Females have better conditions in Israeli rmy. If the tendency continues soon most of Israely army members will be females.

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	10-04-2005 23:46									#16
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Now what is this good for?

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quote: Originally posted by Az Now what is this good for?

For rear units and support units.

	11-04-2005 00:30									#18
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quote: Originally posted by Az Now what is this good for?

Absolutely nothin, say it again.



ACK!

	11-04-2005 00:59									#19
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The little bastard DanSed me.

	11-04-2005 23:10									#20
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It improves morale...