04-04-2005 19:08									#1
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So much for biometrics.

http://www.theregister.com/2005/04/...rint_merc_chop/

	04-04-2005 20:12									#2
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They'll just have to use something better, voice recognition, perhaps.

	04-04-2005 20:36									#3
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Could be worse, only a finger - think about retina scanning

	04-04-2005 20:38									#4
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I did. That's why I suggested VR.

	04-04-2005 20:39									#5
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What happens if some one has a cold or loses their voice (sometimes happens)? Then they can't start their car.

	04-04-2005 20:39									#6
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quote: Originally posted by BlackCat Could be worse, only a finger - think about retina scanning

or sperm sample.

	04-04-2005 20:47									#7
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara I did. That's why I suggested VR.

Tape recorder.

	04-04-2005 20:49									#8
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quote: Originally posted by MikeH Tape recorder.

At least that won't cost you a body part.

	04-04-2005 20:50									#9
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Anal probe.


Spec.

	04-04-2005 20:50									#10
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Just buy a crappy old car that no-one wants to steal.

	04-04-2005 20:54									#11
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There's nothing obvious that works if the crook has a gun in your face . . . I'd give up my ATM pin in 2 seconds if a crook with a gun asked.

My antitheft device on my car is the very primitive "CLUB". I figure that when you have a 1998 Honda civic there is only so much bother a crook will undertake . . . After all the parking lot is FULL of other 6-10 year old economy cars

	04-04-2005 20:57									#12
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Or you could do what I do and just live in a nice neighborhood where you don't have to worry about car theives.

	04-04-2005 21:02									#13
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Or do what I do and live right in the town center so you don't need a car.

	05-04-2005 00:48									#14
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quote: Originally posted by Oerdin Or you could do what I do and just live in a nice neighborhood where you don't have to worry about car theives.

THat's silly . . . The car thieves go to the nice neighborhoods to look for the higher end cars

My civic was broken into in daylight in a park 'n ride in the nice end of Calgary. We figure that only the fact that the battery was so near to dead prevented them from being successful in their hot-wire attempts ( The steering column was torn apart so its either that or they were inept car thieves)

	05-04-2005 01:26									#15
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quote: Originally posted by Oerdin Or you could do what I do and just live in a nice neighborhood where you don't have to worry about car theives.

unless you live in a gated community and park in a garage, that's pointless.

I live in a city with very high auto theft rates. They even tried to steal my old 1995 dodge ram pickup, my dog warned me though, and I scared them off (just by yelling- if they saw how small I was, they'd probably continues stealing it ). Crooks will steal anything, anywhere that I live.

But most won't bother trying to get into garages. That's why poor people lose more cars than rich people.

	05-04-2005 03:08									#16
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Integrate the fingerprint reader with a pulse/blood pressure reader.

	06-04-2005 17:34									#17
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quote: Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe or sperm sample.

Recreational vehicles only.

	06-04-2005 18:33									#18
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Is it legal to create and deploy a system that electrocutes anyone who gets into the car without a key ? Assume the system is independently created by you and rigged onto the standard key mechanism ( or onto some other component to make sure that you have the key ) .

	06-04-2005 18:42									#19
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quote: Originally posted by The Mad Monk Integrate the fingerprint reader with a pulse/blood pressure reader.

Yes, you are referring to "liveness testing" which the science is advancing to field biometric devices with this capability.

The sad thing is that some of these systems with liveness testing can also be fooled. The early techniques looked for heat, which is easy to simulate. Then the detection of a pulse, then the electro-magnetic charge which the human body produces... With every advance there has been the criminal countermeasure "spoofing" the sensor.

The biometrics industry has resigned themselves to being part of a multi-modal (multiple biometrics in one system) in a layered security model. Additionally, some camps are considering the use of biometrics only in situations where the use of biometrics can be monitored by a human. All this has pushed biometrics away from a stand-alone product/system into the background of an overall security plan. Folks in the industry were hoping to make these devices a commodity - but it's widely accepted now that biometrics will not be the monolithic security solution.... pretty much the same story that happened with PKI.

BTW, retinal biometric has been deemed obsolete and relatively unusable. It has fallen into serious disfavor.