06-04-2005 17:37									#1
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/4409649.stm

One answer to gas guzzleing cars and traffic jams?
Would you consider getting one?

	06-04-2005 17:41									#2
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I was hoping they invented beaming

	06-04-2005 17:43									#3
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Why Segway when I can, as the article points out, walk to where I need to go?

	06-04-2005 17:46									#4
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	06-04-2005 17:47									#5
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quote: Originally posted by Starchild Why Segway when I can, as the article points out, walk to where I need to go?

well they look kinda cool?
But its the same for me(well i go by bike). Say your a bit lazy or a bit unfit, could be a good thing then?

And to answer yours, mine and alva's suggestion

I think they were being aimed very much at the urban city centres, even a bike can be a burden sometimes - these are quite easy to store and take with you compared to a bike. My main worry would be it getting stolen, £2,800 is quite a bit to loose out to thieves

	06-04-2005 17:48									#6
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Cool????

The're many ways and words of describing it, cool not being one of them.

	06-04-2005 17:50									#7
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If you're a bit unfit, getting off the segway and actually walking the two blocks to the kebab shop is probably the best thing you can do.

	06-04-2005 18:13									#8
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is there already segway sex porn out there?

this is about the highest level of posting that device deserves.

	06-04-2005 18:21									#9
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quote: Originally posted by child of Thor I think they were being aimed very much at the urban city centres, even a bike can be a burden sometimes - these are quite easy to store and take with you compared to a bike. My main worry would be it getting stolen, £2,800 is quite a bit to loose out to thieves

Easy to take with you? If you're on one maybe. The lightest one is 70 lbs. You can get a bike for less than half that weight, and if you really need something compact you can get a folding bike. Heck, even a scooter is more practical and marginally cooler than a segway.

The only use a segway has ever provided or will ever provide is seeing Bush fall off one.

	06-04-2005 18:23									#10
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Worth it's money then, I say.

	06-04-2005 19:03									#12
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Do we have any pictures of that? As you half spoke in the past tense......i must have missed that golden momment of Segway history

Ok i may have been wrong on this.

I can't really see me giving up my bike for this on reflection.

Still i think it may have been C5 fever that mommentarily had me in its grip

	06-04-2005 19:14									#13
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http://www.segwaypr.com/_wsn/page10.html

	06-04-2005 19:15									#14
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Cool transportation at its best!

	06-04-2005 19:50									#15
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i guess only if you sat inside the container trailer !

and cheers alva, if its dangerous enough for the president of the US, then its dangerous enough for us all


....somehow i still find it a good and futuristic form of transportation.......geeky in a good way

	06-04-2005 21:32									#16
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quote: Originally posted by child of Thor http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/4409649.stm One answer to gas guzzleing cars and traffic jams? Would you consider getting one?

Hell no, 'cause 12mph ain't ****. I exit my driveway at 12mph!

	06-04-2005 21:40									#17
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What the hell is liquid air? And what would you use it for?

	06-04-2005 21:44									#18
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quote: Originally posted by Japher What the hell is liquid air? And what would you use it for?

It is liquid air, and it's used for cooling.

	06-04-2005 21:54									#19
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quote: What the hell is liquid air? And what would you use it for?

Liquid oxygen. As liquid oxygen evaporates (boils off), the temperature plummets. Used in rockets and any number of other applications.

quote: Would you consider getting one?

Sure.

It's a great idea for the 1-3 mile trip in cities that are slightly more spread out than your typical Euro city. A little expensive right now, though.

	06-04-2005 22:02									#21
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quote: Originally posted by Starchild Why Segway when I can, as the article points out, walk to where I need to go?

Yep, that´s it
While it might be interesting to drive something like this,
walking (or using a bike) allows you more freedoms
and, as a nice side efffect, trains your body (and may prevent you from getting too fat )

Those people who really might benefit from Segways, i.e. people with injuries or disabilities which make it hard for them to walk,
might lack the dexterity to use a segway.

	06-04-2005 22:21									#22
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quote: Originally posted by DanS quote: What the hell is liquid air? And what would you use it for? Liquid oxygen. As liquid oxygen evaporates (boils off), the temperature plummets. Used in rockets and any number of other applications.

Intuitively, I would have said liquid air was primarily liquid nitrogen partially liquid oxygen and a small amount of other liquefied gases.

	06-04-2005 22:29									#23
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I may be incorrect, but since liquid nitrogen and liquid oxygen separate, which complicates handling, I'm guessing what's in that tank is liquid oxygen. Somebody in manufacturing might be able to clarify.

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	06-04-2005 22:52									#25
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Dan, given that the company's name is Canadian Liquid Air, who supply oxygen, nitrogen, hydrogen and others liquefied gases, it could conceivably be anything inside that container.

	06-04-2005 22:52									#26
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quote: Somebody in manufacturing might be able to clarify

I'm in manufacturing. I've used liquid nitrogen but never liquid oxygen, at least not in my industry. Must be some semi-conductor type industry. I would assume it to be oxygen, like DanS said, as if it were nitrogen it would say nitrogen.

	06-04-2005 23:01									#27
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Its almost impossible to say as you can't see the placarding. If it was Liquid N2 then the placarding would indicate an asphixiant if liquid O2 it would be described as an oxidizer.

AS for liquid air uses (and it is readily available)

quote: liquid air, ordinary air that has been liquefied by compression and cooling to extremely low temperatures (see liquefaction). Its commercial preparation involves purification by washing to remove soluble impurities and by passage over calcium oxide (lime) to remove the carbon dioxide; compression, under a pressure of 200 atmospheres, or about 3,000 lb per sq in.; cooling, by passage through pipes immersed in cold water; treatment with sodium hydroxide to remove excess water; and rapid expansion, the expanding air passing back over the pipe from which it has just escaped absorbing so much heat that the air remaining in the pipe becomes liquid. Freshly liquefied air consists of 78.1% nitrogen, 21.0% oxygen, 0.9% argon, and very small amounts of rare gases and hydrogen in solution. Its boiling point is approximately −195°C. Because of fractional evaporation, its oxygen concentration and its boiling point increase with time. It must be kept in a specially designed container, the Dewar flask, because at ordinary temperatures it absorbs heat rapidly and reverts to the gaseous state. Liquid air is used commercially for freezing other substances and especially as an intermediate step in the production of nitrogen, oxygen, and argon and the other inert gases. As the temperature of liquid air rises, the nitrogen evaporates first at −195.8°C, the argon next at −185.7°C, and the oxygen last at −183°C. See low-temperature physics.

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I've always wondered. Do these things have a kickstand? How do they stand up when you turn them off?

	07-04-2005 01:59									#30
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