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Asher is offline Asher
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Congress debating forcing Apple to open up iTunes DRM... Support Apolyton, buy Civilization 2

http://management.silicon.com/gover...39129365,00.htm

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Law to make iTunes compatible with Microsoft?
April 07 2005
by Jo Best
Napster steps in to fight Apple's corner...

US legislators are debating whether to force Apple's products to interoperate with Microsoft's.

The Congress have been considering a plan that would outlaw music protected by proprietary digital rights management (DRM) technology, such as Apple's FairPlay, which stops iTunes downloads being played on Microsoft digital music players and vice versa.

However, yesterday's Congressional subcommittee hearing on 'Digital Music Interoperability and Availability', which included debate on mandating interoperability for digital music, received a 'hands off' message from industry representatives.

William Pence, Napster CTO, told the subcommittee that the music industry will eventually promote interoperability itself without the need for government intervention.

"It is my belief, and the essential point of my participation today, that marketplace forces will continue to drive innovation in the DRM arena with attendant consumer benefits - new ways to enjoy digital music at a variety of different price points - while also gradually 'solving' the interoperability problem," he said.

However, one of the biggest players in the digital market, Apple, did not attend the hearing.

Chairman of the subcommittee, Lamar Smith, criticised the Cupertino company's failure to show up, saying: "This interoperability issue is of concern to me since consumers who bought legal copies of music from Real could not play them on an iPod. I suppose this is a good thing for Apple but perhaps not for consumers.

"Apple was invited to testify today but they chose not to appear. Generally speaking, companies with 75 per cent market share of any business, in this case the digital download market, need to step up to the plate when it comes to testifying on policy issues that impact their industry. Failure to do so is a mistake."

Napster, the main challenger to Apple in the online music market, last year cracked Apple's DRM to make songs from its web song shop compatible with the iPod. While Napster's Pence did advocate a more open approach from Apple, he said mandating one through government was not necessary.

"Napster believes that allowing the iPod to work with multiple service offerings would benefit consumers. Nevertheless, I do not see government intervention as the solution, as it would stifle competition and innovation that will benefit consumers and copyright owners at a very early stage of the market's development," he told the subcommittee. "It does not seem prudent for government to pick a winner in the continuing... marketplace battle between Apple's FairPlay DRM and its competitors."

Raymond Gifford, president of the Progress and Freedom Foundation, agreed: "Are open standards preferable? In some cases, yes; in others, no - you are making a trade-off. Are proprietary or non-proprietary standards going to give the greatest amount of innovation? We cannot be sure... For public policy, all this should inspire a great deal of caution for mandating any given outcome or specific standard."

Gifford added: "Much of the brow-furrowing over interoperability in digital music stems from the success of Apple's iPod platform. I urge this subcommittee not to give in to the politics of platform envy, however."


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While I'm not sure that Congress needs to pass a law, I applaud having hearings on this issue as maybe it'll force the issue in the marketplace (perhaps due to the threat of Congressional action).

Congress actually does something worthwile here .

Drake Tungsten is offline Drake Tungsten
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First steroids, then Schiavo and now iTunes. Nice to see Congress still doesn't feel the need to return to important issues...

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Apple showed the subcommittee the respect it deserves.

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First steroids, then Schiavo and now iTunes. Nice to see Congress still doesn't feel the need to return to important issues...


What else would you have the subcommittee on "'Digital Music Interoperability and Availability" do?

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But then what would the poor Congressmen searching for an easy subcomittee do? Think of the Congressmen!

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1. Pass the Digital Millennium Copyright Act, making Digital Restrictions Management possible.
2. Outlaw DRM; keep the DMCA.
3. ???
4. Campaign contributions!

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"It is my belief, and the essential point of my participation today, that marketplace forces will continue to drive innovation in the DRM arena with attendant consumer benefits - new ways to enjoy digital music at a variety of different price points - while also gradually 'solving' the interoperability problem," he said.


Jesus I hope not. DRM will be the stumbling block for the future pointing in a direction with control more control and total control.
I'd find it more attractive if the people would give up the idea to charge money for reproducing things.

Constructing a car requires time and resources.
Composing music requires time and resources.

Constructing a second identical car requires a bit less time and a bit less resources.
Composing an identical piece of music is a simple copy operation granted it was recorded digitally in the first step, which requires totally different (and very cheap) resources as well as virtually no time.

Two different things, two different models needed.

Just think of it, you have higher initial costs and very low successive costs. This logically translates to a very high price in the beginning and gradually going cheaper with the number of songs that are being distributed and the more copies that circulate the net the cheaper the value of the good.
I mean that's pretty standard economy knowledge, yet it seems nobody is interested in implementing it. The MI needs to react much faster to the number of distributed copies which measure the value of a good.

The only problem that I see with this kind of approach is that the interest curve in a good is not highest during release, thus this system would greatly increase hyping and the commercial business will get very happy.

But well probably that is the future we are going to see and some directions already point there. We are often enough more informed about products still in development. Computer games for example.

A more interesting discussion I think

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The problem isn't banning DRM, it's preventing vendors from locking out others from competing.

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I hope they do something and then **** Microsoft up the ass with the precedent.

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Which formats would they get MS for?

The XML format for Office docs is public. Anyone can read it w/o paying any royalties.

Apple not only charges royalties, they forbid anyone else from trying it.

Further, they don't sue anyone into oblivion for trying to read Office docs.

They also license WMA to anyone who wants it.

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