08-04-2005 16:43									#1
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quote: Hello. My name is Krill and I will be your ambassador for the duration of this game. (Sorry if I sound blunt, but thats' the way I am) Just made contact with your worker that is on the wines, and I promise that we come in peace (blah blah blah, you know the drill...). I wish to offer you a trade, of Iron Working (IW), and/or Horseback Riding (HBR), for tech that you have available. Preferably a tech such as maths, or philosophy, but we are even able to add gold to the deal if needed to buy a more expensive tech. If there is anything else you want, don't hesitate to contact both me and ormuzd. Krill, Team Ankh-Morpork

	09-05-2005 09:46									#2
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quote: Alright - we will remember that - you can be sure of this regards, ormuzd --- Ed and Jane wrote: > I will accept Math for Code of Law. There is no > need for gold to even the > deal. Let us balance the trade with mutual good > feelings. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Todor Georgiev" > To: "Ed and Jane" > Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2005 9:24 PM > Subject: Re: EoD save - file not attached > > > > > > --- Ed and Jane wrote: > > > >> I offer Code of Law. Do you wish to trade? > >> > >> -Lost Boys > > > > Hello 1889, > > We want to trade as we always did. We can offer > you > > math or map making I think. Some of the techs > being > > more expensive than others I think we could fill > the > > difference with gold as usual. > > > > We are expecting your answer and the save file (it > > seems you have forgotten to attach it) > > > > Regards, > > ormuzd > > Ankh-Morpork > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > >

Krill, I'm sorry I have overtaken your job

	03-06-2005 18:06									#3
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quote: I understand and will honor your request.

quote: > Hello, Lord Nosferatu, > On first place I'd like to ask you to resend the save > because obviously you have forgotten to do so. > > Second, we would like that your units do not enter our > territory as ours never did and will not. In this > world full with hatred and bloodthirsty people we have > learned to trust less to every man not from > Ankh-Morpork. > > Otherwise we are glad to continue our friendly > relations and continue to work together. > > Regards, > Ormuzd of Ankh-Morpork > > P.S. Please, be not offended. Our Patriarch rarely > answers any requests. Sometimes he accpets foreign > ambassadors but happens occasionally and that's why > me and Krill are the people who handle the relations > with the foreign nations. > >

quote: Lord Vimes, Welcome to Transylvania. I have just discovered your border this turn as well. I hope that we can avoid the belligerence that has already consumed so many nations of this continent. Let us begin our cooperation by allowing each others scouts to pass unmolested through our territory. Here are a few stipulations that should allow trust to grow between us: 1) Only one unit at a time will be in each others territory. 2) That unit will avoid tiles with roads as much as possible. Let us grow strong together, Lord Nosferatu

	12-06-2005 10:22									#4
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quote: Sent on 12th June with the 1525BC Save Lord Vimes, I have established an embassy in your fine town of Home. I hope this is only the first step in a long relationship of friendship. Nosferatu, Lord of Transylvania

	08-07-2005 11:54									#5
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quote: Sent on 7th July 2005 It is unfortunate that Blood Oath Horde and Euphorica are so resistant to the peace process. I am convinced that a peacful conclusion to this current crisis is in the best interests of Transylvania and so will not waver from that objective. That is why I must persue this course despite the rising ire of belligerent nations. I hope you recognise that the success of this endever holds benefits for us all. That is why I ask for your help. I will give you all the warning I can if Desolators begin the journey West and in turn I hope that you will reciprocate with warnings of Horde or Euphorican troops heading my way. Your ally in peace, Lord Nosferatu

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quote: sent by 1889 on 11th July 2005 I think I have made my position clear in the Peace Negotiation Thread. There will be no safety for us as long as aggressors are free to do as they please. I intend to give Desolation Row all the aid I can. I realize that geography makes you warry of such a public stance, so do what you must, but you can count on Transylvania as long as you continue to resist the Three Nations Alliance.

	18-07-2005 13:24									#7
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quote: sent on 18th July 2005 Lord Vimes, I can only imagine how the current situation must look from your borders. You probably have important military matters to attend to, but I wanted to remind you that I plan to honor our mutual defense pact. In light of that pledge I would like a bit of warning before you invade the Horde. I would also hope that you will avoid antagonizing them in public threads or private emails. Also for the time being please don't remind anyone of our pledge. Did we make a deal for Literature? I may need to postpone that. Thank you, Lord Nosferatu

	18-07-2005 16:04									#8
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I think that Babylon have twisted my words, because I can't remember telling anyone of our plans of going to war.

	28-07-2005 22:22									#9
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quote: Krill, The posts in the Abandoned Cities thread took me by surprise. The Lost Boys declared war on you to defend Babylon and because we thought that you had allied with the Horde. Along with Euphorica we are dedicated to making certain that the Horde’s play style does not produce rewards. This is vital to our survival in this game and could have significant consequences for future games. If you are not in collusion with the Horde then I assume this war is just to take advantage of a weak neighbor and conquer some land. Please reconsider both these objectives. As I said before the Horde is the true enemies here, their troops are on their way south and could just as easily turn on you if your forces are engaged in Babylon. As for land Babylon is quite willing to abandon cities so you stand to gain very little. The Horde however is too proud to recognize such an option. Your military advisor may not find this plan very appealing, but we can muster more strength than you or the Horde think. Lord Nosferatu

	28-07-2005 23:47									#10
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quote: Krill says: Hello? klemnrussell@cableone.net (E-mail Address Not Verified) says: Ok, Hi. Krill says: just wondering, but how much time do you have right now? klemnrussell@cableone.net (E-mail Address Not Verified) says: I gave Jr a waffle and a video. She may sit still for 20 min. Krill says: OK, I will try to be brief, and I apologise if at any point I sound blunt Krill says: Yes, we invaded babylon for the land Krill says: The plans were first formed before BOH attacked us, so we have been planning it for a while klemnrussell@cableone.net (E-mail Address Not Verified) says: The map still looks quite open to me. I don't think war for land is worth the cost. at this point. Krill says: But the cost will rise in future. Krill says: and we would rather fight now than in future klemnrussell@cableone.net (E-mail Address Not Verified) says: This game is going quick. You have to conquer the land, then defend it, then develop it. How long until you get a return. All you really get is an enemy on both borders for your trouble. klemnrussell@cableone.net (E-mail Address Not Verified) says: Cooperation with Babylon can produce imediate returns. Krill says: How long until we get a return? Krill says: We have considered that. Krill says: and as we still declared war, you can get a fairly deecent idea of what the answer is. klemnrussell@cableone.net (E-mail Address Not Verified) says: What is your plan after you destry Babylon. Who will help you face BOH then? klemnrussell@cableone.net (E-mail Address Not Verified) says: Also when you declared war did you expect they would have an ally? Krill says: And what is your plan afteryou try to hold us off from attacking Babylon? What then? klemnrussell@cableone.net (E-mail Address Not Verified) says: Then we continue our war on BOH. Krill says: There is no point. Krill says: BOH can't threaten you Krill says: And vice versa Krill says: the most you can do is act as if a cold war is happening klemnrussell@cableone.net (E-mail Address Not Verified) says: THey will conquer Euphorica, Babylon, AM. Then the game is lost and poeple like Ljube and Plato can pat themselves on the back because their behavior has prevented any sort of cooperation in this game. klemnrussell@cableone.net (E-mail Address Not Verified) says: I can and I will attack them. They have a large millitary but units are the cheepest builds in the game. Krill says: Here is my suggestion then Krill says: We are not going to stop our attack now Krill says: you can save your units by staying out of this war. Krill says: we ae willing to negoitiate a fair border treaty with you, should we win this war Krill says: you start building up your army Krill says: and prepare for BOH klemnrussell@cableone.net (E-mail Address Not Verified) says: I will continue to fight with Babylon and doom us all. At least I can get out of this crapy game sooner. Krill says: qhy is this game so bad? Krill says: why klemnrussell@cableone.net (E-mail Address Not Verified) says: Have you been reading the posts? I will fight BOH to prove that such behavir comes with a cost. I will not cooperate with players that post such things and I am supprised that you arewilling to do so. Krill says: Look, the only reason that Me and Orm are at war with babylon is because we think that it will give us the best chance of victory Krill says: ANd Personally, I hate their public posts as well Krill says: and I hate Ljube in particular klemnrussell@cableone.net (E-mail Address Not Verified) says: Your war weakens Babylon and AM allowing BOH to roll over you both. Their strategy has caused so much paranaoi and distrust that any cooalition against them can not form. Krill says: Look, AM decided to attack Babylon around turn 30 klemnrussell@cableone.net (E-mail Address Not Verified) says: And things have change considerably since then. Your plan needs to change as well. Krill says: NO Krill says: As far as this game is concerned, very little has changed. Krill says: there are still 6 civs on the map Krill says: 4 is the ideal number. Krill says: therefore 2 civs have to go klemnrussell@cableone.net (E-mail Address Not Verified) says: No? Your plan took into account that I would aid babylon against you and that BOH would be totaly untrustworthy and so heavily armed? klemnrussell@cableone.net (E-mail Address Not Verified) says: Why not make BOH one of them? Krill says: I had BOH down as unstable from the moment I saw their team form Krill says: and babylon would have had an ally, yes. With Beta, Koreep on the team, I would always have suspected their diplomacy klemnrussell@cableone.net (E-mail Address Not Verified) says: If they must be fought why not do it now while 4-5 can stand up to them? Krill says: Because I am not going to be the frontline in that battle. If we get attacked by BOH, even if every other team was to help us, we would not have a chance to win the game. klemnrussell@cableone.net (E-mail Address Not Verified) says: You will be the front line when BOh attacks any way, but at least you can still have help backing you up. Krill says: you don't seem to get it do you? It might be because I am bad at explaining things, but here goes. Krill says: if we stand up to them alone, we die Krill says: Ithat is, if we stand up to them now Krill says: if we stand up to them, along with every other team, now, we might not die, but we would not have a chance to win the game Krill says: if we don't attack them now, if we try to strengthen our position, so that at some point in the near future we can match them, we have to chance to win Krill says: I will go with the plan that gives us thegreatest chance to win, and i that means confronting both you and babylon right here, right now, instead of BOH, I will confront you klemnrussell@cableone.net (E-mail Address Not Verified) says: That sounds unlikly to me. BOH will invade while your forces are in the south and you will have no ally. klemnrussell@cableone.net (E-mail Address Not Verified) says: I hope you will change your mind while there is still time Krill says: Well, as I said earlier, we have no chance to win against BOH even if we have the help of both you, Babylon, DR and Euphorica Krill says: So I will take my chances against you

	05-09-2005 04:34									#11
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Ormuzd, we have a chat set up for 9PM your time with Lord Nuclear, the new LB turn player.

He wants to hear our propsal for an alliance against the babs.

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Basically, it would be something along the lines of a good border treaty, and bringing them up to scratch in techs.

maybe Kurra, and something around where Lake Ishtar was. It will weaken LB as well.

	05-09-2005 11:48									#12
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Maybe I'll be late or maybe I'll be not able to participate. I'll inform you later. However, I have full trust in you for handling this matters

	06-09-2005 23:32									#13
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quote: Matt says: Hey Krill says: Hi LN Matt says: I have some bad news. Matt says: DR is being very annoying. They are demanding that we get BOH to attack Babylon, or they won't be in the alliance. Matt says: This will delay them, and then we can trap their army. Krill says: Or part of the army... Krill says: hmmm Matt says: This would require peace between you and Bab though. Matt says: DR would be sending their army northward against the homeland of BOH. Matt says: What do you think? Krill says: I would have to talk to Orm about it. Krill says: I am not an autocratic ruller Matt says: I know. Matt says: There is a catch though. Matt says: BOH might try to betray me once they are down there. Matt says: If they do, Bab will have to fight for us as well. Krill says: biggest problem in setting the alliance up is that the babs don't trust me anymore Matt says: For obvious reasons. You betrayed them. Krill says: hey, they aren't copmpletely clean them selves. Krill says: they have demanded a lot of land from us before. Krill says: saying that we can't settle some parts, and that they will settle others, our feelings be damned Matt says: Okay, that's fine. Matt says: If it's possible, I'd be happy to host the peace talks/. Matt says: If we do not ally together, BOH will win. Matt says: I'm hoping to buy 10 turns or so. Matt says: When did DR's GA start? Krill says: about 10 turns ago Matt says: Hmm... Matt says: I think it's probable that BOH would betray me if they were so close to my border. Krill says: Knowing BOH, you are probably right. Matt says: What kind of units do you have now? Krill says: Horses, WC, pike Krill says: MI on the way. Krill says: you? Matt says: Pike, horses, MI, NM. Matt says: I'm hoping that BOH starts my GA. Krill says: they will. Krill says: if they atack Matt says: To be honest, I don't trust DR. Krill says: don't blame you. I don't like immortals much either. Matt says: There is a reason I am sending their army north. Krill says: does not mean they don't have a secod army Matt says: True/ Matt says: Anyways, I better get going. Bring this up with Ormuzd, and we will see what come of this. Matt says: I'll be giving peace to you this turn, anyways. Krill says: thanks Matt says: To victory! (Y) Krill says: yup Krill says: Cake or Death? Matt says: lol Matt says: Death.

	06-09-2005 23:34									#14
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He chose death, I suggest that we give it to them, when the time is due...

	07-09-2005 11:43									#15
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this is nice

just few questions - who is Matt? Nuclear Master?

what is the joke about Cake or Death?

What is expected from us to do? To join alliance against BOH? or stay neutral to the conflict?

	07-09-2005 16:17									#16
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Matt = Nuclear Master,

Cake or Death is a joke from Eddie izzard, a comedian. I am the turn player for team Cake or Death in PTWDG2, which was founded because of Izzard.

No idea as to what he expects from us. What he did say was that he planned to attack the babs himself anyway, and that he does not wat BOH to attack the babs as well, because he thinks that he will be attacked when the babs are destroyed.

he wants us to join the allaince against BOH, as well as DR, but DR would only join IF the babs were attacked by BOH.

Maybe you should discuss this with Paddy, but please point out that I have not made an offer to LB, and all this is LBs' doing.