09-04-2005 02:10									#1
	Spammer sentenced to 9 years Help yourself to an AD-FREE life

http://www.cbc.ca/story/business/na...pam-050408.html

quote: LEESBURG, VIRGINIA - A man in North Carolina whom anti-spam organizations call one of the world's 10 most prolific spammers has been sentenced to nine years in jail. But Jeremy Jaynes won't have to begin serving time right away. The judge ordered the sentence deferred until an appeals court deals with constitutional issues raised by Virginia's tough anti-spam law. It was the first felony prosecution in the U.S. relating to the growing problem of spam. Jaynes was convicted of sending millions of unsolicited e-mails that peddled pornography or sham products, such as the "FedEx refund processor" that supposedly allowed people to earn $75 an hour from home. Prosecutors said Jaynes received 10,000 credit card orders in one month for the processor, each for $39.95 US. Jaynes was prosecuted under a 2003 Virginia law that prohibits the mass sending of unsolicited e-mails when the origin is masked. Virginia asserted jurisdiction because the e-mail traffic was routed through AOL's servers in Virginia. A jury had recommended a nine-year sentence when Jaynes was convicted in November. The prosecution had asked for the maximum 15 years. Prosecutors said Jaynes was making $500,000 US a month from his spamming activities and had assets of $24 million US.

Holy crap. A few things:

9 years? I hate spam as much as the next guy, but that seems excessive.

Secondly, he was making 500 000$ a month? He had assets worth 24 million? I'm impressed.

	09-04-2005 02:19									#2
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Should have been 15 years...IMO

	09-04-2005 02:22									#3
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maybe the one that pops in here from time to time will get some stripy sun-tan

	09-04-2005 02:22									#4
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jailtime!! you've got to be kidding me. I don't think jail time is warranted.

His crime is costing people who have to sort with spam, money. So obviously his punishment should be a really large fine.

	09-04-2005 02:23									#5
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Someone should circulate a spam email telling people to send him their junk mail.

	09-04-2005 02:25									#6
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I think there are trying to send out a scary message to all the kiddies? Spam=evil=jailtime?

Still a rapist can get much less time - so yeah its seems a little rough? take away his 24million and give it to charity

	09-04-2005 02:33									#7
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The 9 years is not just for spam is it? It seems most of his $500k/month income was from fraudulent activity. .

	09-04-2005 02:34									#8
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9 years?! Is that all? He should be sentenced to death by monkey bludgeoning.

	09-04-2005 03:14									#9
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12 monkeys bludgeoning

	09-04-2005 03:18									#10
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He should be forced to personally apologize to every person he ever spammed. His 24 million should be divided up towards reimbursing internet time for each victim.

	09-04-2005 03:18									#11
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Or, his money can be given to me.

	09-04-2005 03:36									#12
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Or not

	09-04-2005 03:38									#13
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Why some people just don't stop it is beyond me. This guy had 24 millions. Why didn't he just leave the country sooner?

	09-04-2005 03:38									#14
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What??? He made 24 million, 500k a month????? is this a fact or just a hear say? Hey, if this dude made 24 million, he should be given a medal, not punishment.

	09-04-2005 03:44									#15
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quote: Originally posted by Oncle Boris Why some people just don't stop it is beyond me. This guy had 24 millions. Why didn't he just leave the country sooner?

Only freedom haters leave America.

	09-04-2005 03:47									#16
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This is like those guys who stole a bridge in croatia(?). If they are able to pull it off, they damn well deserve to enjoy the fruits of their work without anyone butting in. If you succesfully spam and make 24 million dollars in short amount of time, you have the right to enjoy the riches and not have anyone dragging you to court. You should be in the cover of Time Magazine and the hottest guest for all talk shows. No no... I'm serious. Think about it. Make 24 million with spamming. Ethical or not, this is a HUGE achievement. The effort, the style, the strategy. This is like someone saying, well, join our pyramid scam and make all the money in the world, and then someone actually makes 24 million!! What do you say to that? I say congratulations sir, you are a bastard but you have the right to be a bastard, go on, greatness awaits you!

	09-04-2005 04:58									#17
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I think they should simply take away all of his assets, and a couple of months in jail for spam. the fraud, OTOH...

	09-04-2005 05:06									#18
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quote: Originally posted by Pekka Make 24 million with spamming. Ethical or not, this is a HUGE achievement. The effort, the style, the strategy. This is like someone saying, well, join our pyramid scam and make all the money in the world, and then someone actually makes 24 million!! What do you say to that? I say congratulations sir, you are a bastard but you have the right to be a bastard, go on, greatness awaits you!

I say, you @hole! You swindled people out of $24 million and you sent spam!?! May you rot in prison with an unhiegenic HIV-positive horny cellmate and may your bunk be filled with cockroaches!

	09-04-2005 06:16									#19
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quote: Originally posted by KrazyHorse http://www.cbc.ca/story/business/na...pam-050408.html quote: LEESBURG, VIRGINIA - A man in North Carolina whom anti-spam organizations call one of the world's 10 most prolific spammers has been sentenced to nine years in jail. But Jeremy Jaynes won't have to begin serving time right away. The judge ordered the sentence deferred until an appeals court deals with constitutional issues raised by Virginia's tough anti-spam law. It was the first felony prosecution in the U.S. relating to the growing problem of spam. Jaynes was convicted of sending millions of unsolicited e-mails that peddled pornography or sham products, such as the "FedEx refund processor" that supposedly allowed people to earn $75 an hour from home. Prosecutors said Jaynes received 10,000 credit card orders in one month for the processor, each for $39.95 US. Jaynes was prosecuted under a 2003 Virginia law that prohibits the mass sending of unsolicited e-mails when the origin is masked. Virginia asserted jurisdiction because the e-mail traffic was routed through AOL's servers in Virginia. A jury had recommended a nine-year sentence when Jaynes was convicted in November. The prosecution had asked for the maximum 15 years. Prosecutors said Jaynes was making $500,000 US a month from his spamming activities and had assets of $24 million US. Holy crap. A few things: 9 years? I hate spam as much as the next guy, but that seems excessive. Secondly, he was making 500 000$ a month? He had assets worth 24 million? I'm impressed.

This is old news, I think.

	09-04-2005 06:17									#20
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quote: Originally posted by Pekka This is like those guys who stole a bridge in croatia(?). If they are able to pull it off, they damn well deserve to enjoy the fruits of their work without anyone butting in.

How do you steal a bridge?

	09-04-2005 06:23									#21
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Kuci, well yeah, exactly. That requires HARD WORK and extreme balls. There was an article about it in here like a year ago or so.. one day there was a bridge, then the other day it was gone! I say if you can steal a bridge, you can keep it.

Zkribbler, ok ok I didn't read the actual OP further than the last paragraph of it. It seems the spam included selling something bogus etc... OK that one is definitely not cool anymore, well neither is spam but I thought this money was made through spam advertising of real products etc. OK, freeze assets. I am sorry, you were correct and I was wrong.

	09-04-2005 07:36									#22
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The bridge story:

In one single night, a group of Croats (proper term for Croatians?) brought their toolboxes and totally dismantled a road bridge, and sold the scrap metal the next day.

The spam story:

9 fckin years!?? Rapists and murderers can get away with less than nine years. I mean, I know he's going to be one of those "released in six weeks on good behavior" fellows, but something like a fine. Jailtime doesn't make sense for this guy.

	09-04-2005 07:39									#23
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mrmitchell, yeah that was the story . I mean, it's illegal and certainly there's going to be trouble for all kinds of folks because of that crime, but you have to wonder yourself, the determination of it. That kind of stuff, I just have to admire instead of judge them. How can you not love the story?

	09-04-2005 07:40									#24
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He should get 20 years in prison plus 50 millions dollars of fine. That will teach those spammers a good lesson.

	09-04-2005 07:43									#25
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quote: Prosecutors said Jaynes received 10,000 credit card orders in one month for the processor, each for $39.95 US.

I never cease to be amazed at the stupidity of people.

	09-04-2005 07:44									#26
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quote: Originally posted by Riesstiu IV 9 years?! Is that all? He should be sentenced to death by monkey bludgeoning.

Does every thread here have to have a homoerotic undertone?

	09-04-2005 07:45									#27
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Bkeela, right.. but that's the problem with the Nigerian letters. I mean hardly anyone actually believes them, let alone send money, right? But the rare individuals who do, it makes it all worthwhile, and that's what they're shooting for. You don't have to make the perfect hustle to screw everyone, just get the few and make it count.

	09-04-2005 07:59									#28
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quote: Originally posted by General Ludd Does every thread here have to have a homoerotic undertone?

Yes, yes it does.

	09-04-2005 15:58									#29
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9 years in jail? I doubt he'll even stay there for a year and then he'll be back in the bussiness... I wouldn't be suprised if he also gets to keep the money

They should just take all his money and give it to anti-spam organisations
Then they should through him in a jail for at least 5 years

quote: Still a rapist can get much less time - so yeah its seems a little rough?

So just raise the time rapists gets to stay in jail to at least 20 years and everybody's happy

	09-04-2005 16:29									#30
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quote: Originally posted by General Ludd Does every thread here have to have a homoerotic undertone?

I'm not familiar with monkey-bludgeoning homoerotica... and I've read and seen plenty.


Monkey penises are way too small in any case.