12-04-2005 16:17									#1
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Just a baby one. The p-wave wouldn't even wake anyone up but I was still awake and drinking at 4:05am so I felt it. The S-wave was barely more then a 2-3 in my estimate but it's still nice to feel an Earthquake every now and then. It reminds me I'm home.

I can remember back to May of last year when my mother died and I got emergency leave from Iraq in order to go to her funeral. The very same night I got home a 4.0 hit (that's to small to do damage but it shakes things up a bit) and that's when I finally realized I was back home. Strange what things our minds associate with pleasant memories but the frequent yet small Earthquakes never seem to damage much around here.

Luckily, this far south in California all we have are right lateral stike slip faults which, unlike northern or central Californa, don't have any jogs or restraining bends. Thus all we get is fault creep and the odd little Earthquake. They're not so lucky up north were there are several left jogs in major fault lines creating restraining bends which can produce some major Earthquakes.

	12-04-2005 16:19									#2
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http://quake.wr.usgs.gov/recenteqs/Maps/117-33.html

It looks like a magnitude 4 (small little thing really) from a blind fault out south east of La Mesa. Those blind faults are the ones you have to watch for because no one ever knows they're there until they break.

That area is all state park land with narry a man made structure in sight. Perfect place for a quake. I can remember visiting the epicenter of the Hector Mine Earth Quake back in the late 1990's near Pisgah crater and there was a very nice fault scarps visable along with obvious fault damage to the 25 million year old Pisgah volcanic cinder cone. Luckily the lava tubes weren't damaged and to this day people visiting out in that section of the Mojave desert can crawl through some perfect 25 million year old lava tubes some of which are longer then three miles.

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	12-04-2005 16:28									#3
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quote: Originally posted by Oerdin Strange what things our minds associate with pleasant memories

My favourite mornings in England are the ones where it's slightly cool but not cold, there's a uniform dampness to everything but it isn't raining, and the sky and sea and ground and buildings all seem to blend together into a uniform grey.

Should be the most depressing type of morning ever but its what I associate with staying with my grandparents in Brighton when I was younger.

	12-04-2005 16:40									#4
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Anzo Boreggo?

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quote: Originally posted by TCO Anzo Boreggo?

Close but on the west side of the mountains still while the Anza-borrego desert state park is on the east side of the montians in the rain shadow created by the mountains. That is an excellent desert park if you ever get a chance to go out there. Perfectly undeveloped with plenty of water in the spring time since streams come dowen from the mountains at that time of year (though in the summer or fall it is so dry you could kill a goat from thirst. I have no idea how the wild big horns survive). There's lots of hot springs out in that State Park too so if you want to swim in 110 degree natural hot springs with native palm trees all around then it's a nice place. I like to go out there to ride ATVs. Loads of sand dunes with no one else around and plenty of jumps.

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quote: Originally posted by Oerdin Close but on the west side of the mountains still while the Anza-borrego desert state park is on the east side of the montians in the rain shadow created by the mountains. That is an excellent desert park if you ever get a chance to go out there. Perfectly undeveloped with plenty of water in the spring time since streams come dowen from the mountains at that time of year (though in the summer or fall it is so dry you could kill a goat from thirst. I have no idea how the wild big horns survive). There's lots of hot springs out in that State Park too so if you want to swim in 110 degree natural hot springs with native palm trees all around then it's a nice place. I like to go out there to ride ATVs. Loads of sand dunes with no one else around and plenty of jumps.

I got my 280Z turbo stranded trying to offroad to the Palm Springs (at that turn where it gets sandy). Was 4th of July and 120 in the shade...and there was no shade. We were the only idiots there. I found this 80 year old Catholic priest and some stoned bus drivers...it's a long story.

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If it's not Anzo Borrego, which Park are you talking about?

	12-04-2005 18:16									#8
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I've never felt an earthquake, even though Northern Illinois has them quit frequently. They're always very small though, and can easily be mistaken for a passing truck.

	12-04-2005 18:23									#9
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quote: Originally posted by Starchild My favourite mornings are the ones where it's slightly cool but not cold, there's a uniform dampness to everything but it isn't raining, and the sky and sea and ground and buildings all seem to blend together into a uniform grey.

I love exactly the same thing! So I'm not crazy....

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No, you're crazy. Starchild is crazy also.

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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara No, you're crazy. Starchild is crazy also.

They're just channelling Titus Andronicus.

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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara No, you're crazy. Starchild is crazy also.

Silence Florida boy! We're just waiting for the sunlight, warmth, and fresh orange juice to make you weak and slow. Then we'll come in massive hoardes! Massive pale Northern European hordes who will gawk and stare at the ferocious DayStar before falling about your slovenly and well-tanned bodies like...like rats! Rats in candy store! And we shall drive efficient German made atomic powered super robots who shall shoot lasers from their eyes and with the killing and bloodlust and ......

*gets dragged away from the temptation of seeing actual sunlight*

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"well-tanned" is not exactly a phrase I associate with Che.

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quote: Originally posted by JohnT "well-tanned" is not exactly a phrase I associate with Che.

He's not into S & M ?

	12-04-2005 19:04									#15
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I live in a county where half the days are overcast and the sun sets at 4pm in winter. Che is probably a bronzed god compared to the paleness I see everyday.

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quote: Originally posted by Starchild I live in a county where half the days are overcast and the sun sets at 4pm in winter. Che is probably a bronzed god compared to the paleness I see everyday.

Are you now or have you ever been a troglodyte ?

	12-04-2005 19:09									#17
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Nah... I'm not crazy... I just appreciate the cool overcast days because I live in the sunshine state of a sunburnt country and I shrivel up like a prune and perspire like niagara falls everytime I make contact with direct sunlight. I must be a genetic throwback to my pre-colonial scottish ancestors...

Of all the places a solarphobe could be born I had to be born in Australia. How about we trade places Starchild?

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quote: Originally posted by Dracon II Of all the places a solarphobe could be born I had to be born in Australia. How about we trade places Starchild?

Move to Victoria or Tassie.

I'm not madly keen on sun, but Tassie always seems to be enjoying rain or a howling gale even when Victoria has bright sunshine.

And it snows there too.

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Australia? It's like Canada without the snow. Been there, done that, and prefer to keep the snow.

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quote: Originally posted by Starchild Australia? It's like Canada without the snow. Been there, done that, and prefer to keep the snow.

When were you in Australia ?

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Actually, the wife gets all paranoid about cancer everytime I tan. The sun here is strong enough to burn you on overcast days, BTW. If we hit the beach today, I know she's gonna make me put sunscreen on.

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Canada without the snow? Thankyou... I like it when people compare Australia to Canada. Better than being called "America's Deputy Sherriff" (a tiny faux paz made by our idiot of a Prime Minister).

.... and I could certainly settle for Melbourne. Better than Brisbane.... bloody banana benders

	12-04-2005 19:22									#23
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quote: Originally posted by Dracon II .... and I could certainly settle for Melbourne.

Like Sydney, only with culture.

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quote: Originally posted by Starchild It's like Canada without the snow.

Now if I can just convince the wife to move there.

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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara Now if I can just convince the wife to move there.

You'd have to live somewhere like Victoria- or possibly Perth.

Northern Territory is too moist and hot and South Australia is very dry and hot too.

Canberra is like a broken arm, except that a broken arm can heal. New South Wales is good in parts.

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quote: Originally posted by TCO If it's not Anzo Borrego, which Park are you talking about?

The area belongs to the Cleveland National Forest. It was created by Teddy Roosevelt around 1909 or so but the total area of the national forest was cut in half around 1920 or so because developers and gold miners wanted access to the area. It's still the largest National Forest in the Lower 48 though even with 50% of its original area lost. Luckily, over the last century or so the state and county have stepped in making Anza-Borrego State Park (once part of the Cleveland National Forest but taken out 80 years ago) and Ranch Cuyamaca State Park (high mountain woodland at its best with everything from pine to cyprus groves present due to the 100 inches per year of rain) plus a handful of county parks. All in all half of the county is protected parkland and the county is larger then the states of Delaware, Connecticut, and Rhode Island combined.

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quote: Originally posted by molly bloom You'd have to live somewhere like Victoria- or possibly Perth. Northern Territory is too moist and hot and South Australia is very dry and hot too.

Dude, I live in Florida, next to the world's largest swamp. Heat and humidity I can take. My bigger concern is Australia's racism, having a Black wife and all.

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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara Dude, I live in Florida, next to the world's largest swamp. Heat and humidity I can take. My bigger concern is Australia's racism, having a Black wife and all.

If that's your biggest concern, then you should be carefree.

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I hear having all of those lilly white anglo-celtic people so close to the tropics in Australia makes that cuntry the world's leader in skin cnacer rates even though it only has around 20 millin people.

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That and the ozone hole.