14-04-2005 16:25									#1
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Linking to or posting pornography is prohibited by praxis, so is lewd comments or discussion. Yet in the rules faq it reads:

quote: X) What can I post? Anything, as long as it is on-topic (or off-topic in the OT forum), and it's not covered in "What can't I post?"

and

quote: XI) What can't I post? Insults, flames, hatred comments, spamming, advertisements are an abuse of your priviledge to post and can result to a penalty

Alltough one could argue that praxis is as good as rules, it can sometimes create confusion about what is allowed and what isnīt. Iīm not saying I want to be able to post pics with full frontal nudity or worse, but it would be nice to know exactly where the line is drawn without getting a visit from Mings banning rod

Therefore paragraph XI in the rules should be added to with something like the following "linking to or posting pornography is not allowed. Neither is explicit sex talk"

	14-04-2005 17:00									#2
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Who reads the rules any way?

I'm sure those who want to post porn pics don't...

	14-04-2005 18:07									#3
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Isn't there asecontion about common sense and everyone knows this board is intended to be suitable for all ages.

	14-04-2005 18:38									#4
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I know. I just think that if youīre gonna have rules, you might as well follow them. And I donīt really want to post porn pics, I just want some order dammit!

	14-04-2005 20:19									#5
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good lord, we havent hard a discussion on the faq for ages....

	14-04-2005 20:54									#6
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Maybe itīs time for one then?

	14-04-2005 20:55									#7
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quote: Originally posted by MarkG good lord, we havent hard a discussion on the faq for ages....

Do I sense a contest like the ADM question?

	14-04-2005 21:46									#8
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Wots the ADM question? And did you notice Mark didn't answer the original question.

	14-04-2005 22:42									#9
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Nothing you need to worry about

	15-04-2005 00:49									#10
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I never closely read the rules. I just learn by other people's example. That's why I like to see why threads were locked, so I know not to do the same things.

and not posting nudie pictures is common sense.

	15-04-2005 01:54									#11
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Even for noobs.

	15-04-2005 01:58									#12
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Allright, allright. Iīll drop it, jeez you try to make an effort...

	15-04-2005 02:33									#13
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I think it should be included in the rules. No matter how little people read the rules(I did once around the time I registered, for some reason, and have refered to it when I have wondered on when I'd become king etc. That's beginning to be some time now...), it gives the mods a better backup in case of arguments on their decisions.

	15-04-2005 02:47									#14
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quote: Originally posted by spartak Wots the ADM question? And did you notice Mark didn't answer the original question.

hey this is good - weve had contest about when someone would ask the ADM q, but AFAIK this is the first time anyhas has actually asked WHAT the ADM question is. A first, April 14, 2005. When will it be asked next?

January 12, 2006

	15-04-2005 03:10									#15
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Very good and what is the answer?

And Nikolai - you would have to be a blithering iodiot to need a prohibition against porn in the rules to realise that you shouldn't post it here. I take it you aren't one?

	15-04-2005 05:07									#16
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this cannot be a new contest unless DrSpike gives his Seal of Approval (TM) to it.

	15-04-2005 13:47									#17
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spartak: Of course you would be, and no, I am not one. I just meant that if the mods have a rule to point to, it would make it easier to settle it if an argument should appear. I see no reason not to include it.

	15-04-2005 15:17									#18
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On the other hand, praxis has worked pretty well so far. Besides Markos seems utterly reluctant to even discuss it. And thereīs no reason to force the issue, really.

Yes, I am a flip-floper

	15-04-2005 15:43									#19
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Meh, no body reads the FAQ anyway. Ming just lays down the law and that's that.

	15-04-2005 15:59									#20
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Rule #1 Always think "What would Ming think about this?"

	15-04-2005 16:38									#21
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quote: Originally posted by Kamrat X Rule #1 Always think "What would Ming think about this?"

True

quote: I just meant that if the mods have a rule to point to, it would make it easier to settle it if an argument should appear. I see no reason not to include it.

Argument???? This is not a democracy... You can think you are right all you want, but it won't make one bit of a difference if a mod disagrees

To restate the issue as it has been discussed many times... There is no way the rules can cover EVERYTHING... By being so specific, people can point at them and say stupid things like.. "well, this isn't exactly covered, or this is different" Plus, there are many things that we have probably not even seen or run across yet that would be against the rules.

So the key rules are to use common sense... and more importantly, follow mod instructions.

	15-04-2005 18:33									#22
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quote: Originally posted by Ming Argument???? This is not a democracy... You can think you are right all you want, but it won't make one bit of a difference if a mod disagrees To restate the issue as it has been discussed many times... There is no way the rules can cover EVERYTHING... By being so specific, people can point at them and say stupid things like.. "well, this isn't exactly covered, or this is different" Plus, there are many things that we have probably not even seen or run across yet that would be against the rules. So the key rules are to use common sense... and more importantly, follow mod instructions.

I know it's not a democracy of course... I just though it would make things easier for you mods, that's all.

	15-04-2005 18:39									#23
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quote: Originally posted by Ming Argument???? This is not a democracy... You can think you are right all you want, but it won't make one bit of a difference if a mod disagrees

Know your place Ming. MarkG or DanQ could tell a mod to go jump if they wanted to.

	15-04-2005 20:55									#24
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I think that a certain angel tried to become more powerful than a certain God and the angel was punished...

	15-04-2005 21:11									#25
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quote: Originally posted by Dauphin Know your place Ming. MarkG or DanQ could tell a mod to go jump if they wanted to.

True enough... and believe me when I say the mods understand that fact 100%

However, MarkG and DanQ are excellent owners to work for. They let us do our jobs and don't really second guess us... mostly because we all understand the way they want the site to run. I would like to think that we earned their trust over time...

If there is ever a problem, they will always listen to ALL sides of a story before making a decision... They know how sometimes, we have to make a decision quickly... And they also know that we follow whats going on more than they can... When we make mistakes, we correct them ourselves as soon as we can. If they think we are mistaken, they let us know, and let us deal with making the correction. Very seldom have they had to take things into their own hands.

People will never universally agree on anything... but overall, we try to be consistent. Since "opinion" is part of the moderation process... each mod is a little different on how they handle things. Rah uses a more subtle approach... UR closes threads... I Delete threads... and MTG just bans everybody and sorts out the innocents later

	15-04-2005 23:01									#26
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quote: Originally posted by Dr Zoidberg Linking to or posting pornography is prohibited by praxis, so is lewd comments or discussion. Yet in the rules faq it reads: and Alltough one could argue that praxis is as good as rules, it can sometimes create confusion about what is allowed and what isnīt. Iīm not saying I want to be able to post pics with full frontal nudity or worse, but it would be nice to know exactly where the line is drawn without getting a visit from Mings banning rod Therefore paragraph XI in the rules should be added to with something like the following "linking to or posting pornography is not allowed. Neither is explicit sex talk"

If you start specifying all rules there are always smartasses who will enjoy abusing any gaps. Better to have a catchall rule (or alternatively, a Ming), and encourage your posters to use sense.

	15-04-2005 23:34									#27
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quote: Originally posted by DrSpike If you start specifying all rules there are always smartasses who will enjoy abusing any gaps. Better to have a catchall rule (or alternatively, a Ming), and encourage your posters to use sense.

Ming:
"To restate the issue as it has been discussed many times... There is no way the rules can cover EVERYTHING... By being so specific, people can point at them and say stupid things like.. "well, this isn't exactly covered, or this is different" Plus, there are many things that we have probably not even seen or run across yet that would be against the rules.

So the key rules are to use common sense... and more importantly, follow mod instructions. "

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	15-04-2005 23:45									#28
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quote: Restating what Ming says, a new form of spam

	15-04-2005 23:55									#30
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quote: Originally posted by lord of the mark Ming: "To restate the issue as it has been discussed many times... There is no way the rules can cover EVERYTHING... By being so specific, people can point at them and say stupid things like.. "well, this isn't exactly covered, or this is different" Plus, there are many things that we have probably not even seen or run across yet that would be against the rules. So the key rules are to use common sense... and more importantly, follow mod instructions. " Restating what Ming says, a new form of spam