16-04-2005 23:49									#1
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This is the message I have received from Louis XXIV

quote: I know this might not do anything, but I'll try anyway. I spoke to the German Webring Team. I feel that the cause for their delay is a very serious one. I don't want to get into it in any more detail than what they said, so I'll leave it at that. This isn't about my team's interests, since I don't think we will benefit from this. I am basing this soley from the perspective of the game. Any team in their situation would probably take the same actions. I realize what I have to say might have little value, but please take it into consideration. Sincerely, Louis XXIV

	17-04-2005 21:24									#2
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A message from GWT:

quote: Dear people of Apolyton server and IDG2-Team, we wanted to inform you becouse of onesided canceling our Ally by BAT, we're forced to hold the save till we decide how to react on this. We have to contact our other Ally Elu and discuss what to do (they'rnt informed fromBAT what happened). Is it perhaps possible to meet us to a chatsession in this week? And please excuse me for my bad english. All these happened where our ambassador is absent. best regards Sipahi

Please, let's get more active and complete this this game this year

	18-04-2005 04:19									#3
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They want to meet with us? Why? Are they going to try to pitch to us some sort of alliance against BAT?

Furthermore, we do have rules in this game that were argued about for eons and agreed to by all parties. They don't get to postpone playing the save because of an in-game diplomatic crisis. I don't care if they take an extra 24 hours, but anything longer than that is unacceptable.

--Togas

	18-04-2005 06:32									#4
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I agree with Togas. GWT is in direct violation of the game rules. They should be punished.

	18-04-2005 06:51									#5
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I am not up to date ...

Do we even have contact with GWT yet ?

Otherwise.. be nice, and lets hear what they have to say. Then let them know our our alliance with BAT & PAL is rock solid.
With any luck, they will know its futile, and resign from the game. Leaving 3 teams to move into the next round.

	18-04-2005 11:53									#6
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* Master Zen posts for the first time here in like 6 months...

So, germans getting screwed?

Who is BAT, the French team?

	18-04-2005 23:16									#7
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I have said the same thing on their forum
I lack the knowledge and the skills to convince people. Could someone talk to Louis and germans? I think they are holding the game for a week already

	19-04-2005 16:40									#8
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I will, if I get the time tonight, look into it and see what I can do. Probably nothing.

	19-04-2005 18:48									#9
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Have some fun with them GK...

	20-04-2005 01:00									#10
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I just posted a PM I got from one of the GWT members via PM.

What emails do you want me to give him? TEAM email? And who else?

Also they cant delay the game for a diplo crisis as Togas stated. They have delayed this game enough over the last year. Get with PAL and lodge a protest, they can certainly play WHILE doing diplomacy.

Ha Ha its kind of nice being the one hard to get a hold of in this game vice the other way around.

PWND!

	20-04-2005 01:01									#11
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quote: Originally posted by Master Zen Who is BAT, the French team?

Oui

	20-04-2005 06:23									#12
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Heh, so they are being screwed by the French? Interesting. Seems the PTW ISDG is being avenged in more ways than one...

	20-04-2005 19:22									#13
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quote: Originally posted by Master Zen Heh, so they are being screwed by the French? Interesting. Seems the PTW ISDG is being avenged in more ways than one...

From our very first discussions with PAL that was our hope/vision all along. Kind of nice to know it may actually come to fruition............

	21-04-2005 00:24									#14
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quote: Hi all I am Donald Kipper, Minister of Foreign Relations for PAL GWT have contacted us and informed us BAT have cancelled their alliance and requested a chat with us. It is our belief the best way forward may be simply inform them their is a 3 team alliance of PAL/APO/BAT and we regret to inform them we will not be seeing them in the finals. The key potential benefits for this are.... Reputation. This announcement preserves the honor of our 3 nations by not requiring any of us to deal deceiptfully or underhandedly with GWT and thus tarnish our reputations. Our image for those we will meet in the finals will not be that of traitors/backstabbers. Pressure. Public announcement of this plan, can put pressure on GWT from teams in the other game and/or from the admins for GWT to concede early or at least stop delaying their turns in order to negotiate or obtain information. I.E. Get on with it! It also puts additional outside pressure on CDG to concede. Speed. This announcement can result in an eary surrender by GWT, whose memberships is self-admittedly small and struggling and may simply concede. CDG would follow. Impact. What little warning GWT receives will not be enough to prevent the inevitible. Any thoughts?

I guess everyone will agree but I'd like to have some discussion before answering

	28-04-2005 12:55									#15
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quote: Originally posted by Master Zen Heh, so they are being screwed by the French? Interesting. Seems the PTW ISDG is being avenged in more ways than one...

I thought it was CGN who did in the frogs in the first ISDG and that the Germans did a number on Firaxis.

	28-04-2005 22:45									#16
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quote: Originally posted by BigFree I thought it was CGN who did in the frogs in the first ISDG and that the Germans did a number on Firaxis.

You are correct BF.

MZ was just puting his liberal slant on history to suit his immediate needs.............

	28-04-2005 23:33									#17
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quote: Originally posted by BigFree I thought it was CGN who did in the frogs in the first ISDG and that the Germans did a number on Firaxis.

True, memories of the ISDG are getting fuzzy now...

	09-05-2005 14:18									#18
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quote: Originally posted by Hot_Enamel I am not up to date ... Do we even have contact with GWT yet ?

Hi,
to clearify it; i wasnt up to date too (i wasnt an active player in idg2) as i sended this message. I thought we have contact. The problem was the some active members were angry about BAT and therefore unmotivated to play further. So i had to do something to keep the things rolling on.