19-04-2005 21:37									#31
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I don't think that they'd be able to bombard St. Petersburg.

	20-04-2005 04:49									#32
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St. Petersburg freezes in the winter.

	20-04-2005 14:42									#33
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quote: Originally posted by lord of the mark Does the Brits even have to make their main effort in the Black Sea?

If they want to deter the Russians from capturing Istanbul, yes. We're pretty close to the era of 'The Great Game', when Russia and Great Britain were frequently teetering on the brink of conflict because of Russian designs on Afghanistan, Iran and the areas abutting the British holdings in India.
Hence, the British concern to prop up the sick man of Europe.

	20-04-2005 17:18									#34
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quote: Originally posted by BeBro That wouldn't have happened, Che. While there was also in Germany a "revolutionary" climate in the 1840ies, it was in no way due to a communist movement, rather, as in the other countries, a liberal (so "bourgouis" if you will) thing. It was pro-democratic, and anti-monarchic, but not more.

Marx was president of the council at Koln, and while The Commie was an ardent democrat and German nationalist. Establishing a bourgeois republic in Germany was what he was about in those days, even if he though workers could seize power in the more industralized countries. According to Marx, Germany needed to go through industrialization and a bourgeois revolution before it could become socialist. He was rather popular in the Rhineland, you know.

	20-04-2005 19:12									#35
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quote: Originally posted by lord of the mark IIUC there response in other later crises was to threaten to send warships to bombard St. Petersburg?

The Russian Baltic fleet was at that time stationed in Reval (modern day Tallinn, Estonia) and RN had specifically commisioned bombardment ships to attack that fleet in the Crimean War, but then elected not to do it, for some reason.

	20-04-2005 19:31									#36
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quote: Could Russians have captured Istanbul in 1848.?

well depends if the russians had there science bar on 70% and already invented stealth i think they just might have won