20-04-2005 02:48									#1
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Now as you are all aware I have recently moved property, and on handover the previous property was checked over by the landlord and no problem, the cheque will be on it's way for the deposit. I received the deposit yesterday minus £40, a supposed checking out fee which referred me to a particular part of the contract:

The Landlord to pay the cost of the Check In Inventory at the commencement of this Agreement and the Tenant for the cost of the Check Out Inventory at the termination of the Agreement

Now as it was the landlord who set up the inventory they could hardly pay themselves could they? Note there is no mention of any kind of rate of charge, and this strikes me as a spurious charge and the contract was completely ambiguous in this respect. What is my status on this one?

	20-04-2005 03:24									#2
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What exactly is abnormal about this?

	20-04-2005 03:40									#3
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Never mentioned, no figure stated in the contract, well buried in the contract...

	20-04-2005 03:41									#4
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Right or wrong who gives a flying f&*k about £40? I suppose you could always hire a solictor at £200 an hour to sort it out for you.

	20-04-2005 03:48									#5
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Oh Christ, I am not going to sue or anything, it is the principle and I will just write if so. But this is the problem, they may be doing it because they know they can get away from it, and if they have a lot of tenants, it soon adds up!

	20-04-2005 03:55									#6
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It happens a lot when renting, I'd pass it off as one of those things. It might be worth writing a 'blustering' type letter on the off chance though....

	20-04-2005 04:05									#7
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Yeah, that is the plan. I don't have the inclination to do anything just for the sake of £40 though...

	20-04-2005 04:05									#8
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send him a bill for £20 for "cost of the Check in Inventory"

	20-04-2005 04:11									#9
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I was thinking of doing that Japher...that is what it says in the contract and if they are playing it like that, well, why not?

	20-04-2005 04:22									#10
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How about charging them £40 to pay you to not firebomb their house/office/cat...?

	20-04-2005 04:26									#11
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You think you've got problems? Korns mate in another thread is trying (and will also be failing) to get back $10,000 from an African woman he's never even met.

	20-04-2005 04:28									#12
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Well that'll teach him to be a f**kwit!

	20-04-2005 04:32									#13
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quote: Originally posted by Provost Harrison Well that'll teach him to be a f**kwit!

Thats pretty much the concencus of the thread

Your own contribution was very helpfull:

"Hmmm, problematic..."

	20-04-2005 05:28									#14
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quote: Originally posted by reds4ever Right or wrong who gives a flying f&*k about £40? I suppose you could always hire a solictor at £200 an hour to sort it out for you.

Aye, there's the rub. Landlords know you've moved away, so they hit you with ridiculous charges and take it out of your deposit, knowing you have almost no practical remedy.

About the only legal things I can think of is to (a) report them to the Better Business Bureau (or the appropriate equivalent) or (b) a class action lawsuit.

	20-04-2005 05:31									#15
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Do you have a LandLOrd tenant Board-- In Canada every province has one and its pretty simple procedure wise to get in front of them.

I don't believe that Canadian leases have any such clause but it might be the cost of having an employee do an inventory. If they sent someone by for a couple of hours and paid them 20 pounds an hour, it would be legitimate and reasonable. ( but I doubt that is what happened)

it just seems a dinky charge they just hope to get away with since most people won't bother to complain

	20-04-2005 21:28									#16
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quote: Originally posted by Japher send him a bill for £20 for "cost of the Check in Inventory"

They will have already paid for the Check in Inventory.


Its standard practice that the tenant pays checkout inventory costs, the landlord pays checkin inventory costs. The landlord could waiver I suppose....

Presumably an inventory was carried out and not by PH (unless the landlord doesn't give a shite about his furnishings). The cost of it is incurred by someone and it needs reimbursing as I said above. The landlord could be doing the inventories itself or hiring a contractor to do it, but either way it incurs costs and £40 sounds about right.

I don't understand the big deal.

	20-04-2005 21:33									#17
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It's totally normal but normally they specify how much it'll cost in the contract in advance. And actually £40 is relatively low for that. I think my contract on my current place says it's £75.

Anyway the contract says you pay, you signed the contract it's totally justified.