21-04-2005 09:27									#151
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The flaming catapult erm, shells, bursting in the trees was cool too.

	21-04-2005 09:28									#152
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quote: Originally posted by Ted Striker Back on topic, I think gender relations as a whole have deteriorated to the point where they have become dysfunctional. We know more on how to raise a healthy family than ever before, yet are doing a poor job of it. TRUE conservative traditions have been lost along the way. There are many causes, but one among many that particularly disturbs me is the whole self-help culture. It's anything BUT, is counterproductive, and often breeds more problems than it solves.

I concur But it isn't just women that have to accept responsibility for traditions being lost, it's a two way street. I"m finding as I've gotten older that I long for the days when things were much simpler. Men and women used to be clearly defined but not these days.

	21-04-2005 09:29									#153
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quote: Originally posted by Lancer Tia, pouty lips help hold the line in cavalry charges?

Nope just trying to break the seriousness...sometimes you guys really get going. Besides I"m a girl and even I can appreciate Angelina Jole's lips.

	21-04-2005 09:32									#154
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"Men and women used to be clearly defined but not these days."

They are in the Philippines. Wanna go Tia? Likely we'll go this December though nothing is sure yet.

Ted and Ben are welcome too of course...

Been trying to get Ted to join us for ages.

	21-04-2005 09:35									#155
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Actually.........just received my inheritence and was thinking about a trip...might be nice. PM me details.

	21-04-2005 09:41									#156
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Details? We go, you go...

Oh...Aircon room with meals eaten in the house costs $200 for a month. Room with fan w/meals in house costs $160. Pay your own out.

In other words we're not out to make anything, we're charging enough that we don't expect to lose anything either. The food is kinda basic. You like seafood?

	21-04-2005 09:43									#157
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Yup love it.

Ok, Ben sorry didn't mean to threadjack.

	21-04-2005 09:45									#158
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Good.

Ben knows I live to threadjack.

	21-04-2005 09:53									#159
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quote: Originally posted by Lancer Shi, in our culture they get it in the soaps, on Oprah, from friends at work. Dolores tells me about the pressures she gets at work here in the US from friends. The anti male bias..., 'go out and have some fun', like life at home isn't. I think there the man/women thing is normal, here in the US it's all screwed up. Analize this place...our home.

Well don't you think it seems natural that if a woman must rely on a man for her economic well-being, that would give the man more power in the relationship, thus limiting the likelihood a girl will play games?

	21-04-2005 09:56									#160
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"Well don't you think it seems natural that if a woman must rely on a man for her economic well-being, that would give the man more power in the relationship, thus limiting the likelihood a girl will play games?"

Sure, that seems logical, but Shi...are we talking about logical beings?

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quote: Ben knows I live to threadjack.

Indeed you do.

	21-04-2005 10:06									#162
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So Ben, round trip should be around $1000. You saw the cost of the house is miniscule. We hope to go in December...assuming we go...

You in?

	21-04-2005 10:11									#163
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im sorry after the vacations were being discussed i missed were it is writen that the woman is the emotional one. most woman iknow are strong and able to decide what they want. Ben got kicked in the stomache by a girl that wasnt able to speak her mind... While she was wrong most women have the ability of being logical

	21-04-2005 10:14									#164
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"most woman iknow are strong and able to decide what they want."

I believe it.

	21-04-2005 10:51									#165
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I know that women play as many games as men. It sucks when one person gets hurt. I have been on the recieving end of a guy playing games it sucked. It only occured to me when the asses wife called me when i knew i was being played

	21-04-2005 10:55									#166
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Yes, people can be horrible. Men, women... I'm sorry you've been hurt.

	21-04-2005 10:59									#167
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Ben, clean out your PMs pal.

	21-04-2005 11:03									#168
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"Sure, that seems logical, but Shi...are we talking about logical beings?"

Obviously not, or else Lancer would have supermodels crawling all over him.

Although I'd think if you were facing third world poverty, you might be a little more logical about these things.

	21-04-2005 11:04									#169
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quote: Originally posted by Tiamat But it isn't just women that have to accept responsibility for traditions being lost

Never said it was.


I'd still hit it though.

	21-04-2005 11:05									#170
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quote: Originally posted by Shi Huangdi "Sure, that seems logical, but Shi...are we talking about logical beings?" Obviously not, or else Lancer would have supermodels crawling all over him. Although I'd think if you were facing third world poverty, you might be a little more logical about these things.

What exactly are you implying here?

	21-04-2005 11:08									#171
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"Although I'd think if you were facing third world poverty, you might be a little more logical about these things."

Good point. It's just that they are very romantic people, filipinas. They dream of love...it's just not logical.

	21-04-2005 11:12									#172
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Shi probably thinks that anyone without a 3 bedroom house, 2.5 kids, 2 cars and access to Wal-Mart must be living a miserable life.

	21-04-2005 11:13									#173
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"What exactly are you implying here?"

Could be nothing, could be that such relationships are marriages of convenience not based on love, but logic. That marriage is a means to an end rather than a a way to sanctify a loving relationship.

Pure BS, but we get it alot. Still, Shi might not be talking about this at all.

	21-04-2005 11:15									#174
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Yeah, that's why I wanted him to clarify.

Why do people gotta hate? Lance is extremley happy, so is his wife, anybody that has a problem with that needs to examine themselves and why they feel a need to condemn other people's happiness.

	21-04-2005 11:21									#175
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Thanks Ted. No problem though. I understand why such views are taken and it's not about hate imo. Also I don't know what Shi's point was or even if he had one.

I'm happy to talk it out with people and I've gotten alot more easy about such stuff.

	21-04-2005 11:29									#176
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I cleaned them out just after you sent one, Lancer

Should be fine now.

	21-04-2005 11:31									#177
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i appreciate that lancer has found a wonderful lady
hell i dont even know him at all but true love is great. Ben didnt get it recopicated here so i hope he dont give up on the oppiste sex.

	21-04-2005 11:35									#178
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Word up good advice Mrs. T speaks the truth, Ben remember you got your whole life ahead of you and someday you will look back on this and it will be a distant memory.

Remember your faith always tells you that hard times are the teaching times, they are setting you up for something better down the road. It may not be on your timeline but its on its way.


I prefer to not be dipping in someone else's Kool-Aid even if I drank from the pitcher before. When someone else gets ahold of the pitcher and then you drink from it the only thing to come out of that is cooties. In that case I get my own pack and make a new pitcher.

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	21-04-2005 11:40									#179
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quote: Originally posted by Lancer Thanks Ted. No problem though. I understand why such views are taken and it's not about hate imo. Also I don't know what Shi's point was or even if he had one. I'm happy to talk it out with people and I've gotten alot more easy about such stuff.

I should clarify, "hate" is more of a generic Ebonics term I was using that means people badmouthing someone else's success.

"Player Hater" is also used to identify someone that is jealous of someone else's success.

Don't hate-->Congratulate.

	21-04-2005 11:44									#180
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Great philosophy Ted

Mrs T, you hang in too.