20-04-2005 23:47									#1
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the chat before Krill joining

quote: [20.4.2005 20:36:10] McMeadows: ormuzd isn't it? [20.4.2005 20:36:20] McMeadows: I received a PM by Krill [20.4.2005 20:36:40] McMeadows: you want to talk to representatives of Euphorica [20.4.2005 20:36:48] Ormuzd: oh, great [20.4.2005 20:36:53] Ormuzd: yes [20.4.2005 20:37:13] Ormuzd: as already everyone knows BOH have back stabbed us [20.4.2005 20:37:27] Ormuzd: I guess you already know what will we ask from you [20.4.2005 20:37:42] Ormuzd: could you enlighten me about your relations with them? [20.4.2005 20:37:52] Ormuzd: you are much closer to them [20.4.2005 20:37:56] McMeadows: I can guess you want us to help you out. [20.4.2005 20:38:16] Ormuzd: actually we are already hopelessly behind [20.4.2005 20:38:19] McMeadows: Exactly, we're close to them, and have you met our other neighboor? [20.4.2005 20:38:37] Ormuzd: with one city and two workers captured you could imagine [20.4.2005 20:38:49] Ormuzd: no, we have only contact wit DR I think [20.4.2005 20:38:55] Ormuzd: are you in war with them? [20.4.2005 20:39:00] McMeadows: that's our other neighboor [20.4.2005 20:39:42] Ormuzd: we know the locations of every other team we have contacts with all teams [20.4.2005 20:39:49] Ormuzd: but still didn't find DR [20.4.2005 20:39:57] McMeadows: south of us [20.4.2005 20:40:18] Ormuzd: our warrior is to the north [20.4.2005 20:40:18] McMeadows: So we're kinda cornered [20.4.2005 20:40:31] McMeadows: there's nothing there, only sea [20.4.2005 20:40:35] Ormuzd: the same situation with us and every other team I guess [20.4.2005 20:40:56] Ormuzd: being back stabbed we wanted two things: [20.4.2005 20:41:06] McMeadows: With BOH and DR as 2 neighboors, we're not able to make a move [20.4.2005 20:41:08] Ormuzd: 1 warn you to not trust any single word of BOH [20.4.2005 20:41:22] Ormuzd: we will talk with DR too [20.4.2005 20:41:36] McMeadows: Haven't you had a word with DR yet? [20.4.2005 20:41:41] Ormuzd: 2. to give you some information which you could find useful and do us a favor [20.4.2005 20:42:03] Ormuzd: we are talking with them but only tech ageements [20.4.2005 20:42:27] Ormuzd: we will try to convince everyone so that we damage their relations BOH as most as possible [20.4.2005 20:42:47] Ormuzd: the information is that there is significant army of BOH in our near our territory [20.4.2005 20:42:51] McMeadows: Sofar our relation with BOH has been friendly [20.4.2005 20:42:59] Ormuzd: this means you could try to archer rush them [20.4.2005 20:42:59] McMeadows: More friendly than with DR [20.4.2005 20:43:07] Ormuzd: so were ours until the last turn [20.4.2005 20:43:24] Ormuzd: we were "their great friends" [20.4.2005 20:43:35] Ormuzd: "setting mutual watch posts" [20.4.2005 20:43:37] Ormuzd: etc. [20.4.2005 20:43:56] McMeadows: What is that talk about you harrassing their settlers? [20.4.2005 20:43:59] Ormuzd: and at one time all their warriors were near us and, of curse, attacked us [20.4.2005 20:44:05] Ormuzd: nothing [20.4.2005 20:44:11] Ormuzd: let me explain this too [20.4.2005 20:44:23] Ormuzd: maybe I should post it in the forum? good idea [20.4.2005 20:44:38] Ormuzd: at the beginning we were exploring with one warrior [20.4.2005 20:45:05] Ormuzd: their scout appeared from nowhere and poped out a hut near our borders [20.4.2005 20:45:27] Ormuzd: how could you react to this? we left it pass to keep the good relations [20.4.2005 20:46:21] Ormuzd: after this we approached their border and they started complaining and request to move away [20.4.2005 20:46:25] Ormuzd: we did, again [20.4.2005 20:47:04] Ormuzd: while the warior was wonder near their border (I think 2 ties away) they popped a settler and founded a city just at the tile of our warrior [20.4.2005 20:47:08] Ormuzd: we moved away [20.4.2005 20:47:17] Ormuzd: shortly after this we discovered you [20.4.2005 20:48:14] McMeadows: hmmm, I can't blame them for popping huts [20.4.2005 20:48:25] McMeadows: They are expansionistic [20.4.2005 20:48:36] McMeadows: that's what they need to do [20.4.2005 20:48:42] McMeadows: at better odds than you can [20.4.2005 20:48:46] Ormuzd: usually you don;t pop huts near the borders of someone else, do you? [20.4.2005 20:49:32] McMeadows: haha... you do mate [20.4.2005 20:49:35] McMeadows: DR did with us [20.4.2005 20:49:48] McMeadows: and can't blame them, how unfortunate it was [20.4.2005 20:50:05] McMeadows: they popped barbarians 4 tiles from our capital [20.4.2005 20:50:36] McMeadows: we didn't pop that hut ourselves just beacause we didn't want to have barbs harrassing our workers and cities [20.4.2005 20:51:46] Ormuzd: we didn't do this with babylon [20.4.2005 20:51:55] Ormuzd: however, this is not so important [20.4.2005 20:52:00] McMeadows: indeed [20.4.2005 20:52:11] Ormuzd: as you can see we were as much tolerant to BOH as possible [20.4.2005 20:52:35] Ormuzd: and they were all the time paranoid and at the end stabbed us [20.4.2005 20:52:48] Ormuzd: if you decide not to attack them be very, very careful [20.4.2005 20:53:05] Ormuzd: they are really deep role playing and you'll be likely their next target [20.4.2005 20:53:33] Ormuzd: but I think you'll have no better opportunity to stab them [20.4.2005 20:53:40] McMeadows: if not the target of DR [20.4.2005 20:53:44] Ormuzd: just be sure DR will not this to you too [20.4.2005 20:54:12] McMeadows: I don't trust those DR-players [20.4.2005 20:54:14] Ormuzd: withtheir slow pace of play you could hope for "out of game factors" to preventthis [20.4.2005 20:56:03] McMeadows: I'm sorry but I'm afraid Euphorica can't help you out. We're a bit between the two biggest agressors [20.4.2005 20:56:37] Ormuzd: we could together to turn the one's attention in the other direction [20.4.2005 20:56:55] Ormuzd: and you'll use the situation between us and BOH [20.4.2005 20:57:15] Ormuzd: I think you are more skillful in diplomacy than us [20.4.2005 20:57:30] Ormuzd: and with your advices we could do it [20.4.2005 20:58:12] Ormuzd: we will not say anything to DR so that they have any suspisouces about your intentions towards BOH [20.4.2005 20:58:58] Ormuzd: krill has just joined [20.4.2005 20:59:05] Ormuzd: would you like to try a meeting? [20.4.2005 21:00:34] McMeadows: I don't have headphones [20.4.2005 21:00:50] Ormuzd: oh, cr*p [20.4.2005 21:00:50] McMeadows: I mean... microphone [20.4.2005 21:01:02] Ormuzd: I thought it is something like IRC [20.4.2005 21:01:05] McMeadows: I was busy installing netmeeting [20.4.2005 21:01:26] McMeadows: if Krill has MSN, he can join as well [20.4.2005 21:02:00] Ormuzd: so did I [20.4.2005 21:03:59] Ormuzd: can we all three chat in the sme window?

	20-04-2005 23:57									#2
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Second part

quote: [21:04] Kevin has joined [21:04] McMeadows has joined [21:04] McMeadows: yes we can [21:04] McMeadows: G'day Krill [21:04] Kevin: Hello [21:04] Todor: hi [21:04] McMeadows: sticky situation [21:05] Kevin: You have no idea... [21:05] Todor: we expected it [21:05] Todor: but were catched in the right moment [21:05] Todor: just founded two cities [21:05] Todor: and lost already the one [21:06] Kevin: The other is sfe, and it has given us horses. [21:06] Kevin: you know what that means... [21:06] Kevin: war charioits [21:06] McMeadows: I tried to explain ormuzd that we're in between DR and BOH and therefore don't feel all that comfortable risking having 1 take our back door while we attack the other through the front door [21:07] Kevin: What i was thinking of was not an outright attack [21:07] Todor: and I proposed that we all try to convince DR to turn their attention in other direction [21:08] Kevin: Immortals are the one thing that Numidians fear, it is true... [21:09] Todor: immortals are bad [21:09] Kevin: What i was thinking of was that if BOH came at us with a largish stack of Archers, you could hit them. [21:10] Todor: If I was Persia I could be glad to have a nation between me and the keshiks [21:10] McMeadows: war chariots? Are they any good? [21:11] McMeadows: We're not really in between, more in a traingle [21:11] Kevin: aagaiist an archer rush, with minimal speaars, theey are great. [21:11] Kevin: They retreat [21:11] McMeadows: aha... [21:12] Kevin: so we d't haave to spend as many shields. [21:12] Kevin: Annd they cost the same as an archer, with the extra movement...you get the piicture? [21:12] McMeadows: ++ [21:13] McMeadows: immortals worry me more than those Mongolians [21:13] Todor: WC are great, no doubt [21:15] McMeadows: I can't remember which civ you're playing [21:15] Todor: egyot [21:15] Todor: egypt [21:15] Todor: [21:16] McMeadows: special war chariots isn't it? [21:16] Todor: one of the best civs and we succeeded to get struck in the begining [21:16] McMeadows: now I have the total picture [21:16] McMeadows: warrior rush if I read it correctly [21:16] Kevin: are you playing as china? [21:17] McMeadows: yps,.. China [21:17] McMeadows: we're trying to survive the first age [21:17] Kevin: as soon as you have Riiders, goodbye DR... [21:18] McMeadows: if there's still anything left of Euphorica by that time [21:18] Kevin: well, Ii thik that there iis one thiing that wr can agree on... [21:18] McMeadows: we've just been sitting on the iron of DR, but they wanted us off when they founded a new city next to it [21:19] Kevin: sme thig that BOH diid to us [21:19] Kevin: sam thiing that BOH did to us (crappy keyboard) [21:19] McMeadows: so now immortals will be there soon [21:20] Kevin: why did you not archer rush them? [21:20] McMeadows: like when? [21:20] Kevin: stupiid questioin, really. [21:20] Kevin: about now [21:20] McMeadows: they have been civcling around us, mapping our territory and future cities [21:21] McMeadows: they had almost taken an undefended city [21:21] McMeadows: we've been lucky there [21:21] McMeadows: but still., I don't trust them for a bit... [21:22] Todor: fine [21:22] Todor: so, we could agree to this [21:22] Todor: we will give you information if BOH sends more troops towards us [21:22] Todor: and you'll have in mind we want them dead [21:23] Todor: no matter the time, just to be not the last survivors [21:24] Todor: one other proposal? [21:24] Todor: mc? [21:24] McMeadows: sorry had a phone call [21:24] Todor: if we send you some gold to rush swords? [21:25] Kevin: no problem [21:25] Todor: we will turn off our research for some time [21:25] Kevin: we are tlking about 15-25gpt [21:25] McMeadows: We're getting there where I need to get some back-up from the team. I'll post on this issue... [21:26] Kevin: again, no problem [21:27] McMeadows: allrighty... either me or snoopy should get back to you soon. [21:27] Todor: yes, of course [21:27] Todor: you should discuss this in your team [21:27] McMeadows: MSN: snoopy369@yahoo.com [21:27] Todor: MSN? [21:27] Todor: isn't it yahoo? [21:28] McMeadows: yes, but we're using MSN here aren't we? [21:28] Kevin: iit seems to accept it... [21:28] Todor: I'm using everything [21:28] McMeadows: you can add him [21:28] Todor: icq, yahoo, msn, irc [21:28] Todor: I have already added him [21:28] McMeadows: allrighty... I have to go now... [21:29] McMeadows: hang on there guys [21:29] Kevin: cya [21:29] Todor: bye [21:29] McMeadows: I appreciate your commitment in keeping the game going with just the 2 of you [21:29] Kevin: aalso, i doubt we will play the save until tomorrow [21:29] Todor: the stupid thing about MSN is that you can't leave messages while the other is offline [21:30] McMeadows: I understand you need some time to get some diplo going [21:30] Todor: it's fun - belive me [21:30] McMeadows: indeed ICQ was better with leaving messages, but when 90% of the people use MSN, you 'll have to adapt [21:30] Kevin: it would be easier if it was a silent game, but i'm not complaing [21:31] Todor: miranda [21:31] McMeadows: nah... non silent [21:31] McMeadows: the fun is in the interaction [21:32] McMeadows: see ya later guys [21:32] McMeadows: bye [21:32] Kevin: cya, have fun [21:32] Todor: forgot to post the ISDG report... [21:32] Todor: bye [21:47] McMeadows has disconnected [21:47] Kevin has disconnected [21:47] This conversation has been inactive, participants will be removed. [21:47] To resume the conversation, please quit this session and start a new chat session.

	30-04-2005 14:39									#3
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Deal negotiations started on 2270 BC

quote: [30.4.2005 00:04:03] McMeadows: ahhh allrighty.... that leaves time [30.4.2005 00:04:35] McMeadows: I'd like to get some back-up too [30.4.2005 00:05:00] ormuzd: [30.4.2005 00:05:07] McMeadows: Just if it were necessary I'd have acted on my own [30.4.2005 00:15:52] McMeadows: poly's available again [30.4.2005 00:25:10] ormuzd: that's great but I'm already going to sleep I'll check it tomorrow when I play the ISDG save [30.4.2005 00:25:15] ormuzd: good night [30.4.2005 00:25:55] McMeadows: ++ [30.4.2005 00:25:56] McMeadows: u2 [30.4.2005 10:51:11] McMeadows: Ormuzd, good morning [30.4.2005 10:52:16] McMeadows: Just a note to let you know Euphorica would like to make a tech trade deal considering mathmatics + some gpt for map making [30.4.2005 10:53:40] McMeadows: I know you want to wait until Krill is back to fill in the details, but this allows you to know in which direction it is going. [30.4.2005 10:57:01] ormuzd: good morning [30.4.2005 10:57:22] ormuzd: great [30.4.2005 10:57:34] McMeadows: Hoped you would think so.. [30.4.2005 10:58:04] McMeadows: I'm confident we'll get the deal closed soon. [30.4.2005 10:58:14] ormuzd: so do I [30.4.2005 10:58:33] ormuzd: it seems krill has the bad luck to miss lots of turns while he is not able to play [30.4.2005 10:59:09] ormuzd: previous time his notebook was damaged and we were playing a turn per day, even two turns in one day IIRC [30.4.2005 11:00:03] McMeadows: indeed.... I'm a bit amazed at the sudden speed up myself too [30.4.2005 11:00:03] ormuzd: without any forcing we would like that you not trade Math to BOH [30.4.2005 11:00:27] ormuzd: if it's possible not in any case [30.4.2005 11:00:39] ormuzd: you know our attitude towards them [30.4.2005 11:00:56] ormuzd: how are the things with DR going? [30.4.2005 11:00:56] McMeadows: Not exactly holding hands... [30.4.2005 11:01:07] ormuzd: they have less points than us [30.4.2005 11:01:20] McMeadows: Points don't tell anything... [30.4.2005 11:01:35] McMeadows: or not much anyway [30.4.2005 11:02:02] McMeadows: Reckoning the players in the team and the silence there is now, I fear they are cooking up something now [30.4.2005 11:02:15] ormuzd: in this early stage they show the territory what could be a significant note [30.4.2005 11:02:48] ormuzd: I wonder how much of them are active [30.4.2005 11:03:04] McMeadows: Moon is not available at the moment [30.4.2005 11:03:09] McMeadows: Aqua sure is active [30.4.2005 11:03:20] McMeadows: Sabre I suspect to be on the background [30.4.2005 11:03:42] ormuzd: solomwi is writing from time to time in the strategy forum [30.4.2005 11:03:55] ormuzd: trip - long time not seen [30.4.2005 11:04:03] ormuzd: masuro - don't know [30.4.2005 11:04:32] ormuzd: the most active team is the Horde [30.4.2005 11:04:32] McMeadows: All players more than capable [30.4.2005 11:04:46] McMeadows: The horde has about all active polayers [30.4.2005 11:04:53] ormuzd: with twi top-spammers I guess they are posting more than all other teams together [30.4.2005 11:05:03] McMeadows: haha... must be [30.4.2005 11:42:38] McMeadows: Do I read it right to see you have the turn allready? [30.4.2005 11:43:02] ormuzd: oops, I'll check [30.4.2005 11:44:09] McMeadows: At this speed maths and MM are ancient knowledge by the time we get the deal going... [30.4.2005 11:45:04] ormuzd: I may complete the deal on my own responsibility [30.4.2005 11:45:43] McMeadows: Let's do so? [30.4.2005 11:47:58] ormuzd: ok [30.4.2005 11:48:14] ormuzd: how much gold would you like? [30.4.2005 11:48:31] McMeadows: wrong question... I want it all... [30.4.2005 11:49:27] ormuzd: very good offer, I'll think about it but I guess I'll so "no" [30.4.2005 11:50:27] McMeadows: What about 3 gpt? [30.4.2005 11:55:18] ormuzd: 60 gold in total? [30.4.2005 11:55:38] McMeadows: if you don't go to war with us before.. [30.4.2005 11:55:54] ormuzd: I don't think we will [30.4.2005 11:56:05] ormuzd: what about 30 gold? [30.4.2005 11:56:09] ormuzd: cash [30.4.2005 11:57:42] McMeadows: 40 [30.4.2005 11:57:51] McMeadows: either 2 gpt or cash [30.4.2005 11:57:58] ormuzd: ah, yes, 40 was what I meant [30.4.2005 11:58:03] ormuzd: it's fair 40 [30.4.2005 11:58:15] McMeadows: ++ [30.4.2005 11:58:43] ormuzd: no, we will give it now and you will try to not give math to BOH [30.4.2005 12:00:04] McMeadows: Why wouldn't we want to try to get something out of it with BOH? [30.4.2005 12:00:14] McMeadows: Rather us gaining some extra then DR... [30.4.2005 12:01:02] ormuzd: it's just a wish, not a requirement e can't know who has traded it [30.4.2005 12:01:23] ormuzd: I want to leave them isolated as much as possible [30.4.2005 12:01:38] ormuzd: it's not just the war - they are clearly the most powerful civ now [30.4.2005 12:02:30] McMeadows: and contact with every civ [30.4.2005 12:03:27] ormuzd: I think everyone has contact with all teams [30.4.2005 12:03:40] ormuzd: didn't you meet lost boys and babylon? [30.4.2005 12:03:53] McMeadows: you're right... we did [30.4.2005 12:04:14] ormuzd: and DR have math few turns before us [30.4.2005 12:04:32] ormuzd: if they could they should have traded something for it [30.4.2005 12:04:37] ormuzd: don't you agree? [30.4.2005 12:04:46] McMeadows: might be that BOH allready has maths anyway [30.4.2005 12:05:00] McMeadows: that's what you mean don't you? [30.4.2005 12:05:29] ormuzd: no, they don't have it [30.4.2005 12:05:37] McMeadows: How do you know? [30.4.2005 12:05:52] McMeadows: you're at war... [30.4.2005 12:05:55] ormuzd: because we have it and we can offer it to them [30.4.2005 12:06:10] ormuzd: yes, but we can still check this [30.4.2005 12:06:10] McMeadows: at war? [30.4.2005 12:06:28] ormuzd: propsing peace opens lots of thins for trade [30.4.2005 12:06:45] McMeadows: hmmm sneaky [30.4.2005 12:07:05] ormuzd: it's not a cheat, nor exploit [30.4.2005 12:07:17] McMeadows: I'm sure our FA minister Snoopyy wants to trade maths to whomever [30.4.2005 12:07:32] ormuzd: just as we had rough estimations of the pop growths of all teams in the begining [30.4.2005 12:07:50] McMeadows: and how did we come out there? [30.4.2005 12:08:11] ormuzd: looking at the score, F8 and F11 [30.4.2005 12:08:33] ormuzd: lots of information could be gained, you need just someone dedicated to intelligence [30.4.2005 12:09:02] McMeadows: That indeed would be a job we could create

	08-06-2005 02:30									#4
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quote: chat between ormuzd (Todor) and McMeadows of Euphorica, continued together with Krill after this [07.6.2005 23:27:03] Todor: sorry to bother you [07.6.2005 23:27:17] Todor: but who is your diplomat to us in the c3c dg? [07.6.2005 23:27:29] Todor: I'd like to have a half-official chat with him [07.6.2005 23:28:00] Todor: half because I don't have too serious matters to discuss official because I don't mind that he posts the log after this [07.6.2005 23:29:10] McMeadows: I'm good enough for it [07.6.2005 23:29:37] McMeadows: so go ahead... [07.6.2005 23:30:00] Todor: DR has asked very politely to move our warrior out of their territory [07.6.2005 23:30:13] Todor: they have founded a city towards your lands - Sidon [07.6.2005 23:30:31] McMeadows: We have been aware of Sidon\ [07.6.2005 23:30:49] Todor: our warrior is currently on position 63 from Sidon over a mountain (with a vision to the city) [07.6.2005 23:31:09] Todor: he has to move north, just between you and them [07.6.2005 23:31:16] Todor: would it be a problem? [07.6.2005 23:32:44] McMeadows: 63 is fine [07.6.2005 23:32:59] McMeadows: if you can provide us with some intel it would even be perfect [07.6.2005 23:33:45] Todor: but we need to move the warrior out of there [07.6.2005 23:34:11] Todor: and the route is between Sidon and Nirvana and after this between Sidon and U2 [07.6.2005 23:34:36] Todor: I wanted to make a synchro for your troop movement [07.6.2005 23:35:15] McMeadows: with 63 you're out of DR territory..! [07.6.2005 23:36:22] Todor: yes [07.6.2005 23:36:37] Todor: but we have a very good view and I think they don't like the idea [07.6.2005 23:36:38] McMeadows: so why do you have to move? [07.6.2005 23:36:50] Todor: the warrior stays there two turns already

quote: Krill joins the chat with McMeadows Todor says: just wanted to discuss everything Todor says: and do not copy-paste Krill says: Bastard, I have a chemistry exam tomorrow. Krill says: The things I do for demogames... McMeadows says: What kinda chemistry? Krill says: Organic, industrial, Mass spectrometry, Oxidation numbers, the basics, including all the physical tests kinda exam. Krill says: 3 hours. Krill says: three exams. Todor says: oxidation numbers is very simple Krill says: I know. Todor says: one of the things I have learned perfectly Krill says: But most people in my class are too thick to understand it. Todor says: so, back to the game and leave Krill prepare for tomorrow McMeadows says: na oxidation numbers is quite useless... Todor says: first thing - would it be a problem the movement of our warrior? Todor says: Aqua said there was a stack of Doom and I think it could be yours Todor says: or just the next lie from them McMeadows says: Aqua and Moonbars have been shitting me over them being in neutral territory as they putted it and we not being allowed to say anything about it McMeadows says: Aqua might be right *-) Todor says: McMeadows says: about the stack Todor says: I really hope you'll teach them a lesson McMeadows says: but why don't you just stay? McMeadows says: he can't afford going to war with you Todor says: I think I'll do exactly this McMeadows says: he's at war with BOH and EU now Todor says: yes, this could be their third enemy Todor says: a little bit too much McMeadows says: just start discussion with him and explain that the warrior is taking a break in neutral territory... no claimed mountain Todor says: I suppose the movement of our warrior would be a problem for you Krill says: McM, something else that you might want to think about. McMeadows says: doesn't seem to be a problem if you move... Krill says: If we stay at piece with DR, we can establish an embassy, and spy on cites for you Todor says: alright, thanks Todor says: if we start move, we will inform you as we always did Todor says: about the inteligence you asked McMeadows says: But you could just as well stay... Juice up the game...You're no threat with a warrior on a mountain Todor says: what kind of inteligence would you like? Todor says: we could spy a city Todor says: but we need to build an embassy first Krill says: Only problem is that it costs alot of gold, and we need every penny right now. Todor says: and this means we will require lot of gold to expect Sidon for example Todor says: McMeadows says: We have no money available to support spying, but We'd be interested in what units you have in sight Todor says: we could give it to you McMeadows says: (mp) Todor says: but we would like to have something in exchange for the information Todor says: gold is not everything Todor says: you'll have 24 hours to discuss if you wish and we will send you the information before rhot makes the actual moves Todor says: I'm online almost whole day Krill says: learning stuff while you have a headache is not fun. Krill says: Krill says: C-F Krill says: Bond damnit. Krill says: I can't remember when I have a headache. Todor says: I could even report the turn was sent tomorrow sometimes giving you extra time if you need it Todor says: what do you think?

	18-06-2005 13:37									#5
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quote: Heya - The Euphoriscian Intelligence Group is interested to know what AM would be willing to trade for Construction, as we currently possess such technology and would like to trade it. Our interests are: 1) Luxuries - future 20-turn luxury option(s). 2) Future tech credits - particularly specific techs (ie, credit towards invention or something like that, that we'd know not to research in exchange for knowing we'd have an option on it). 3) GPT or straight gold In that order, probably. We'd have to be confident that such luxury options would be guaranteed - ie, within 3-5 turns of notice, you'd be able to guarantee us a luxury (that we do not at the time have). What are your thoughts? -Snoopy369, EIG Commander

Hey Ormuzd, do you think we can trade Currency and some future lux for construction?

	18-06-2005 14:01									#6
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in general we are not allowed to trade currency
and the horde may trad the construction to us

	18-06-2005 14:14									#7
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Well, in general, the only thing from stopping us from trading Currency to anyone is pissing off DR.

And DR don't have any friends to hurt us, and I don't think they can escape from both BOH and EU (one or the other, they had a chance, but not both...)

We need construction soon, as we really need an aquaduct in UU before the start of the GA. We can prebuild it, though, so we don't need Construction just yet...

	16-07-2005 18:55									#8
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quote: Euphorica would like to ask our powerful friends in Ankh-Morpork what their stance is after the Betrayal at Metallica. We recall that, years ago, you had issue with the Blood Oath Horde, and although we were unable to assist you militarily, due to our thought of the Horde being our friends at the time, we did successfully (along with Babylon) convince the Horde to leave you in peace. We make no military plans this day, but simply ask you of your position in this, and whether you can be counted a friend to the Musicians of Euphorica. Yours in peace, Snoopy369