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Rogue States of America
Mar 2002 time: 21:37
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Talk about censorship!
I intended this to be a message that got conservatives on Hannity's board to realize they had a double standard in name calling, instead I got:
the following thread:
Banned for Contempt of an Affiliate..... LEE AND I am closing this silly thread.
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What's the difference between calling a person a "little Eichman" or a feminazi?
Don't get me wrong, I think what Ward Chruchill said was extremely insensitive and disgusting, but he said it in front of hundreds. Rush does it in front of millions and still draws his $20+ million salary.
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One death is a tragedy,
a million deaths is a statistic.
-- Stalin
Re: What's the difference between calling a person a "little Eichman" or a feminazi?
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I have heard the term feminazi used to describe a radical, in your face feminist. That hardly compares to being likened to a man who murdered millions.
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Lieberman '08. Git R done Joe!!
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There is a huge difference between calling dead people Eichmans just because they worked in a building and calling feminists names due to their chosen political views.
One group had no choice, the other does.
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Arsenal AK Underfolder : Now showing at a home near you. Up close and personal. Next show at 3am.
According to CSM, I'm a Realist, so keep your Neo-con comments to yourself, looney liberal.
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There is no difference. Both are uncalled for.
As a conservative, I find Rush's behavior abhorant. I refuse to listen to him because he is a Republican Party shill first and a conservative second. Until he fesses up to his drug abuse, he will be forever a fraud in my book. He needs to apply his own moral railings to his own behavior.
Sean is not as bad, but sometimes leans towards the Rush formula to get ratings. That is when I switch to music.
Why is everyone calling for DeLay's resignation? Because he is crooked, that's why. Sean asks why no one looks at what the democrats do as a way of excusing what DeLay has done. What DeLay did was wrong and if any politician regardless of their party does the same thing, it is wrong. At least Newt had enough pride to step down.
The same thing happened when Clinton was President with his sexploitations. How many Republicans spoke out against Clinton to only find out that they had the same skeletons in their closets? Didn't the Speaker of the House resign because of that?
When you cast stones and set yourself up as the benchmark of proper behavior, you'd better not have any issues of your own.
Banned for Contempt of an Affiliate..... LEE AND I am closing this silly thread.
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Re: What's the difference between calling a person a "little Eichman" or a feminazi?
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Originally Posted by f1thyrich
There is no difference.
You cannot be serious. FTR, I think you stand about 50 points to the left of me on the political scale, and I sit somewhat left of center.
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Lieberman '08. Git R done Joe!!
Don't get me wrong, I think what Ward Chruchill said was extremely insensitive and disgusting, but he said it in front of hundreds. Rush does it in front of millions and still draws his $20+ million salary.
__________________
One death is a tragedy,
a million deaths is a statistic.
-- Stalin
Re: What's the difference between calling a person a "little Eichman" or a feminazi?
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I have heard the term feminazi used to describe a radical, in your face feminist. That hardly compares to being likened to a man who murdered millions.
__________________
Lieberman '08. Git R done Joe!!
Re: What's the difference between calling a person a "little Eichman" or a feminazi?
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There is a huge difference between calling dead people Eichmans just because they worked in a building and calling feminists names due to their chosen political views.
One group had no choice, the other does.
__________________
Arsenal AK Underfolder : Now showing at a home near you. Up close and personal. Next show at 3am.
According to CSM, I'm a Realist, so keep your Neo-con comments to yourself, looney liberal.
Re: What's the difference between calling a person a "little Eichman" or a feminazi?
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There is no difference. Both are uncalled for.
As a conservative, I find Rush's behavior abhorant. I refuse to listen to him because he is a Republican Party shill first and a conservative second. Until he fesses up to his drug abuse, he will be forever a fraud in my book. He needs to apply his own moral railings to his own behavior.
Sean is not as bad, but sometimes leans towards the Rush formula to get ratings. That is when I switch to music.
Why is everyone calling for DeLay's resignation? Because he is crooked, that's why. Sean asks why no one looks at what the democrats do as a way of excusing what DeLay has done. What DeLay did was wrong and if any politician regardless of their party does the same thing, it is wrong. At least Newt had enough pride to step down.
The same thing happened when Clinton was President with his sexploitations. How many Republicans spoke out against Clinton to only find out that they had the same skeletons in their closets? Didn't the Speaker of the House resign because of that?
When you cast stones and set yourself up as the benchmark of proper behavior, you'd better not have any issues of your own.
Banned for Contempt of an Affiliate..... LEE AND I am closing this silly thread.
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Last edited by Lee Kington : 3 Days Ago at 07:36 PM.
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Originally Posted by f1thyrich
There is no difference.
You cannot be serious. FTR, I think you stand about 50 points to the left of me on the political scale, and I sit somewhat left of center.
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Lieberman '08. Git R done Joe!!
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara
Mother Theresa wouldn't stop him even if she were alive. She'd encourage him. She was a vicious disciplinarian. You people don't know squat about that lady, do you? |
[/Feeding the Troll] So what exactly should we know about her? Please elighten us. [/Feeding the Troll]
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Ft. Lauderdale, FL Communist Party of Apolyton
Jun 2000 time: 00:37
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That she was a nasty person, who was certainly not the saint everyone pretends. If there's a hell, she's in it.
From Wiki
quote: Criticism
After Indian Prime Minister Indira Gandhi's suspension of civil liberties in 1975, Mother Teresa said: "People are happier. There are more jobs. There are no strikes." These approving comments were seen as a result of the friendship between Teresa and the Congress Party. Mother Teresa's comments were even criticized outside India within Catholic media. (Chatterjee, p. 276.)
An Indian-born writer living in Britain, Dr. Aroup Chatterjee, who had briefly worked in one of Mother Teresa's homes, began investigations into the finances and other practices of Teresa's order. In 1994, two British journalists, Christopher Hitchens and Tariq Ali, produced a critical British Channel 4 documentary, Hell's Angel, based on Chatterjee's work.
The next year, Hitchens published The Missionary Position: Mother Teresa in Theory and Practice, a pamphlet which repeated many of the accusations in the documentary. Chatterjee himself published The Final Verdict in 2003, a less polemic work than those of Hitchens and Ali, but equally critical of Teresa's operations.
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Stance on abortion
From the early 1970s, Mother Teresa began to attract some criticism. Many advocates of the family planning and pro-choice movements were critical of her views and influence because she was opposed to artificial contraception and abortion. Mother Teresa frequently spoke against them publicly and in meetings with high level government officials. In her Nobel Prize acceptance speech, she declared, "Abortion is the worst evil, and the greatest enemy of peace... Because if a mother can kill her own child, what will prevent us from killing ourselves or one another? Nothing."
In the aftermath of the Bangladesh Liberation War, it was determined that more than 450,000 women in East Pakistan (now Bangladesh) had been systematically raped, giving birth to a few thousand war-babies. Even in these circumstances, she asserted her rejection of abortion by publicly renouncing abortion as an option and by calling upon the women left behind to keep their unborn children. She characterized her views later when asked in 1993 about a 14-year-old rape victim in Ireland, "Abortion can never be necessary... because it is pure killing."
This stance is in line with that of the Roman Catholic Church, which asserts natural family planning is the only acceptable form of birth control, even in cases where conception is the result of sexual abuse or rape.
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Baptisms of the dying
Mother Teresa encouraged members of her order to baptize dying patients, without regard to the individual's religion. In a speech at the Scripps Clinic in California in January 1992, she said: "Something very beautiful... not one has died without receiving the special ticket for St. Peter, as we call it. We call baptism ticket for St. Peter. We ask the person, do you want a blessing by which your sins will be forgiven and you receive God? They have never refused. So 29,000 have died in that one house [in Kalighat] from the time we began in 1952."
Critics have argued that patients were not provided sufficient information to make an informed decision about whether they wanted to be baptized and the theological significance of a Christian baptism.
Some of Mother Teresa's defenders have argued that baptisms are either soul-saving or harmless and hence the criticisms would be pointless (a variant of Pascal's Wager). Simon Leys, in a letter to the New York Review of Books, wrote: "Either you believe in the supernatural effect of this gesture – and then you should dearly wish for it. Or you do not believe in it, and the gesture is as innocent and well-meaningly innocuous as chasing a fly away with a wave of the hand."
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Quality of medical care
In 1991, Dr. Robin Fox, editor of the British medical journal The Lancet, visited the Home for Dying Destitutes in Calcutta (now Kolkata) and described the medical care the patients received as "haphazard". He observed that sisters and volunteers, some of whom had no medical knowledge, had to make decisions about patient care, because of the lack of doctors in the hospice. Dr. Fox specifically held Teresa responsible for conditions in this home, and observed that her order did not distinguish between curable and incurable patients, so that people who could otherwise survive would be at risk of dying from infections and lack of treatment.
Fox conceded that the regimen he observed included cleanliness, the tending of wounds and sores, and kindness, but he noted that the sisters' approach to managing pain was "disturbingly lacking". The formulary at the facility Fox visited lacked strong analgesics which he felt clearly separated Mother Teresa's approach from the hospice movement. There have been a series of other reports documenting inattention to medical care in the order's facilities. Similar points of view have also been expressed by some former volunteers who worked for Teresa's order. Mother Teresa herself referred to the facilities as "Houses of the Dying".
In contrast to the conditions at her homes, Mother Teresa sought medical treatment for herself at renowned medical clinics in the United States, Europe, and India, drawing charges of hypocrisy from critics such as Hitchens.
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Destination of donations
It has been alleged by former employees of Mother Teresa's order that Teresa refused to authorize the purchase of medical equipment, and that donated money was instead transferred to the Vatican Bank for general use, even if it was specifically earmarked for charitable purposes. See Missionaries of Charity for a detailed discussion of these allegations. Mother Teresa did not disclose her order's financial situation except where she was required to do so by law. |
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I am extremely sorry for opening this bag of worms. All "famous" people will have naysayers. For the most part she sounds as though she was Catholic <--not a bad thing, but often misunderstood.
Back on topic (sort of)...
I have a signed copy of Hannity's book "Deliver us from Evil" My Dad is a big fan, so I got two of them. One for both of us. I've never watched his show or read anything from him. The most exposure that I've had to the man was getting his autograph. I imagine that I'll get around to reading the book sooner or later.
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