26-04-2005 07:25									#1
	Athlon 64 crashes SMAC Support Apolyton, buy Civilization III: Complete

So this is a bad situation, Alpha Centauri (actually Alien Crossfire refuses to run on the new Athlon 64 game box, so someone is really really upset.

When I tried to run the program, it comes up with a box saying something to the effect of "You are using an unsupported processor but you can try to run the game anyway."

So I clicked "OK" and it just died. Nothing.

Does anybody know a patch or a workaround? Thanks.

	26-04-2005 07:25									#2
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Perhaps a workaround could be an emulator? Essentially dosbox, but for windows?

	26-04-2005 07:31									#3
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I get that almost every time I load up the game (ever since I've been playing it on WinXP), but it runs fine.

There is a patch out there somewhere that makes SMAX run fine on XP; if you don't have that, someone on the SMAC forums may be able to point you in the right direction...

Also, you may want to try changing the ForceOldVoxelAlgorithm line in the alphacentarui.ini file from 1 to 0 (or 0 to 1), I've heard that that works for some people. But you might have more experienced people help you on the AC forums, of course.

	26-04-2005 09:49									#4
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It's not XP. My version was working fine under XP - try using a no CD crack.

My problem is with the Athlon 64

	26-04-2005 13:17									#5
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hmm, good reason to keep my old computers around.

	26-04-2005 15:08									#6
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Lots of help you are, Diss

	26-04-2005 15:12									#7
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I don't have an Athalon 64, sorry. .

I have an older Athalon, I have no problems.

but you should post this in the SMAC forum. There are some patches (like the windows patch), or possibly a line in the .ini file that might fix things.

	03-05-2005 04:30									#8
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quote: Originally posted by Urban Ranger It's not XP. My version was working fine under XP - try using a no CD crack. My problem is with the Athlon 64

It is a shame as I got a 64 at Christmas and all former and current games have run like a charm..

sorry

I did read where some drivers were having conflicts with the 64 just a thought

I am wishing you well to resolve this soon

	03-05-2005 06:01									#9
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I sugest you ask in the SMAC forum

	03-05-2005 06:08									#10
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There is a SMAC forum?

	03-05-2005 07:19									#11
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Isn't there a flag for switching to "old voxel" algorithm or something that improves compatibility?

	03-05-2005 09:13									#12
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Yeah, that fixed this problem.

Another one cropped up - I am in the middle of a game, and it just hangs. Fortunately I can shut it down by bringing up the task manager, but why the heck does it hang? I tried running it in Windows 98 compatibility mode - no joy.

	05-05-2005 08:13									#13
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I thought someone else had a problem with the game hanging. check the recent threads over on those forums. It should be on the last 3 pages or so. It wasn't that long ago I saw a thread on it. I'm not sure if they ever solved the problem though.

	05-05-2005 16:38									#14
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quote: Originally posted by Urban Ranger It's not XP. My version was working fine under XP - try using a no CD crack. My problem is with the Athlon 64

It might very well be XP really. I have two comps, both with XP. One won't run SMAC, the other will.

	05-05-2005 17:20									#15
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Clearly God Sid is angry at AMD.

	06-05-2005 07:41									#16
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quote: Originally posted by Nikolai It might very well be XP really. I have two comps, both with XP. One won't run SMAC, the other will.

	06-05-2005 14:52									#17
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And, I shjould have added, the one who won't run SMAC, worked before I did a reinstall(after applying the XP patch).

	06-05-2005 22:57									#18
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Send me your new computer. I'll fix it for you.

	07-05-2005 10:00									#19
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quote: Originally posted by Nikolai And, I shjould have added, the one who won't run SMAC, worked before I did a reinstall(after applying the XP patch).

Did you remove the game entirely first?

	07-05-2005 10:11									#20
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What about playing with the Compatibility modes? Perhaps XP isn't the problem, but a compatibility mode might fix it anyway, by not using whatever resource is the problem?

	07-05-2005 15:28									#21
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quote: Originally posted by Urban Ranger Did you remove the game entirely first?

I did a complete reinstall of the computer. The game worked with the XP patch before that reinstall, but afterwards it was completely impossible.

	08-05-2005 14:22									#22
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Did you install SP2?

	08-05-2005 17:45									#23
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I haven't tried after I got SP2. Should I?

	09-05-2005 00:40									#24
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Sp2 causes problems I hear, I have yet to install it. I have my own firewall, I don't need a crappy windows one.

	09-05-2005 14:07									#25
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quote: Originally posted by Nikolai I haven't tried after I got SP2. Should I?

No. Applying SP2 is going to break many programs, including games.

I thought you couldn't run Alpha Centauri after reinstalling Windows because you applied SP2.

Have you a) applied a no-CD crack and b) updated to the newest DirectX (at least use 9.x)?

	09-05-2005 17:36									#26
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I tried to install on this PC for about a year ago last time. All requirements were met, as it was the same as before the reinstall of the computer. In fact, SMAC works on my other comp not connected to the Internet, and not updated at all. I think it just is my comp really. I have had another reinstall after I tried last time, so maybe it works if I try again. But I have bought the game so I have no use of a no-cd crack or anything else in that direction.

	09-05-2005 18:40									#27
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There's always a use for no-cd cracks as in to spare your rare and precious copy any more abuse then really necessary.

	09-05-2005 19:14									#28
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Heh... I mostly play Paradox's titles, and then I don't need the CD at all, except for reinstall. But really, there's no problem with inserting a CD from time to time.

	10-05-2005 08:29									#29
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quote: Originally posted by Nikolai But I have bought the game so I have no use of a no-cd crack or anything else in that direction.

It's not that simple. I bought the game too, but I installed the no-CD cracks anyway. Much easier that way.

Also, sometimes installing the cracks will make your game work, strangely enough.

	10-05-2005 11:59									#30
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BTW, could you install the game all right?