27-04-2005 04:01									#1
	What games haven't you bought, but have played? Support Apolyton

a take on my other thread. I think you can figure it out by the title. I've played too many to list. But I don't consider myself a pirater. Many of those games were from my brother. I figure it's okay if you keep it in the family.

In fact, I play less pirated games today than I did back in the Commodore 64 years.

	27-04-2005 04:36									#2
	Got spare money?

[Nerd mode]I think I'm a computer game fetischist...[/Nerd mode] All the games I have are legally bought...

I want the original Civ 2 with poster, manual and the whole enchilada... Sell it to tomorrow's brats 50 years from now on Ebay, I will...

I have Alpha Centauri (french original) and in english (bargain bin version)... I really don't like the budget versions... But what to do when the originals are off the shelves...

Carolus

	27-04-2005 04:40									#3
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... and to relate to your other thread...

I haven't played either of the versions of SMAC yet... Tried a cousin's, though...

Carolus

	27-04-2005 05:05									#4
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Ehm, the list will be endless. I guess I can be considered as a cheap pirater, but let's face it I wouldn't have played those games if I had not downloaded them somewhere, except for one online game that I play a lot. That game is worth its money. But most others... I mean I'm just a poor student,... I can hardly pay for one game as it is already, but that's because I spend a considerable amount of money on 'certain other things'

I occasionally do buy games btw, I'm not 100% evil

	27-04-2005 05:15									#5
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Oh, I've played a lot of games that I didn't end up buying, because I didn't like them. After all, I figure that's what they make the demo versions for.

	27-04-2005 09:22									#6
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You forgot:
- games owned by somebody else, like friends and family
- games that are free (either free as beer or free as speech)
- games that are abandoned, or appear that way
- demos (usually crippled, though)

	27-04-2005 09:44									#7
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I didn't get Civ1 until rather recently, despite playing it a lot in my youth. I borrows it a lot. The first Railroad Tycoon was similiar. The games that we ended up getting were never the ones we wanted to play (and while I also never bought Doom, I didn't enjoy it that much, I did enjoy the two I mentioned above though a lot and I do'nt think my parents had any reason not to buy them for me (I was 10)).

Jon Miller
(I actually think my parents might hvae been big into the games should be free point of view)

	27-04-2005 16:41									#8
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Absolutely loads of my friend's PS, PS2, Xbox and GameCube games.

I haven't got the original boxed Civ2, but I've got a boxed copy of MGE with all of the kit.
The scenario building stuff in the manual is really interesting. Shame all of my units look rubbish.

	27-04-2005 16:53									#9
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I tend to play games just to see how they're like, to see what they bring. One could sometime wonder if I am more interesting in the history and mecanismsof videogames, than playing itself.

So I can easily install a game, play for a few hours, uninstall. Just renting the game is way enough, or very often a demo. The problem is: most cannot be rented This might change when everything gets "sold online". Contrarily to Carolus, I care only of what is on my hard drive (exceptions? Kind of... that'll be for another discussion).

Also, I consider that buying something from Microsoft is to steal. You steal from its competitors. Such a view means that if I install Windows, I might pay for it... to Linux. Also, I do not think that the price of things is always correct... a product which has no material cost or almost (plastic CD) would not take anythign from anyone if those not having the money for it would pay less.... for example since all this is an uneasy subject. There are also some other issues mixing up the issue, of all kinds.

When I'll make my own money, it'll be a whole lot easier since, my parents supporting me, I have no intention of using their money like that since I consider this a personal choice (which is a different issue with my OWN independent money). So I pay for things I never intended to use, and use things I never intended to pay.

	27-04-2005 23:28									#10
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I just don't have time to answer this question honestly.

	28-04-2005 08:52									#11
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ahoy matey, join my frrrrigate!!

	28-04-2005 11:24									#12
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quote: Originally posted by DrSpike I just don't have time to answer this question honestly.

This would, no doubt, be due to the immense list of those you've played and the time required to go through all of them to find the miniscule few that you haven't actually bought?


Most of mine are legitimate purchases, although a few of these, admittedly, were 'pre-played'.
Those that weren't bought were usually old-warez types that I wanted to try out, decided I didn't like and then trashed, or 'effectively' abandonware that I didn't have any real chance to pick up by legitimate means.
Basically I buy them if I like them and have the opportunity to do so.

	28-04-2005 18:55									#13
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I've tried out a lot of abandonware to see if I missed any good games in years gone by, although half the time I'm downloading a game I had on long since lost discs. I don't bother downloading new stuff because I have the money to buy any games I really want and web reviews quickly steer me away from games I shouldn't.

	28-04-2005 19:24									#14
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I played Civ2 once upon a time, but I didn't ever own it, Ient it from a friend who was tired of it( ), but it didn't work anymore, so I found it on the net. It was an legal offer apparently though, as the owner of the abadonware site claimed ot have got an agreement on hosting it legally for some days.

Lots of old games(read: abadonware) I never played or owned when they came out because I was a little child at the time they came out and I didn't have a computer anyway. As f.ex. Civ1(borned in 1986 I was way too young).

DL'ed R:TW and Need for Speed: Undersground 1(last one for my little brother) to check them out. Tried them both, but NFS:U was nothing for me and R:TW was only fun in the civvish part, the real time battles was nothing for me.

That was it I think, except the demos I've tried in my "long" life.

	28-04-2005 19:37									#15
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I played a "trial version" ( ) of Colonization, Civ2 and Settlers 2. Since I liked all 3 games, I bought them weeks later. I played Ultima VII "The Black Gate" as a copy from my brother, but some time later bought the Ultima VII collection set, which included Black Gate, Forge of Virtue, Serpent Isle and Silver Seed. Overall I can say, that I haven't played a pirated game (except the described "try-outs") for way more than 10 years.

	28-04-2005 20:19									#16
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Civ 1 (I never got the original)
Oregon Trail, Prince of Persia, Qwert II, Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego, including the time travel one, and many NES titles.

	28-04-2005 21:08									#17
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Civ 1 is the most notable one for me. I got it on a disc along with some other stuff when I bought a soundcard + speakers + a CD-ROM drive for the computer. Back then, they definitely didn't sell games here. Heck, back then I didn't have the slightest idea that a disc that is essentially a compilation of various software is illegal.

	28-04-2005 21:21									#18
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quote: Originally posted by Nikolai I played Civ2 once upon a time, but I didn't ever own it, Ient it from a friend who was tired of it( ), but it didn't work anymore, so I found it on the net. It was an legal offer apparently though, as the owner of the abadonware site claimed ot have got an agreement on hosting it legally for some days.

I can do you a great deal on some prime Florida land. Requires a minimum of development.

	28-04-2005 21:28									#19
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I've played many hundreds of games, but only bought a few of them. I'm in the incredibly luxurious position that our local library not only has books, but also an extensive games collection. The vast majority of all the games I've ever played I've gotten from there (in some cases over and over again). I also have several bachelor uncles who have huge game collections from which I can borrow as well

The games that I actually own myself are mostly the games covered on Apolyton: Civ1/2, CtP1/2, CtP2:AoM , MoO3, RoN, RoN:T&P, GalCiv (as well as several strategy guides). Of these, I only bought CtP1, RoN and (recently, actually) Civ2. The others (including all strategy guides) were gifts, either by friends/family or by the developers/publishers themselves. Good things come to those who mod

Aside from that I also bought Dungeon Keeper (that game rocks!), Star Trek 25th Anniversay and a few other ancient or obscure titles such as Airport Inc, Ceasar II, Gangsters, SimCity (the original) and probably one or two others. But I bought all of those as budget titles and didn't pay more than €5 for any of them.

Everything else I've ever played I haven't bought, but all still legal (by Dutch law anyway).

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	28-04-2005 23:36									#20
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as I've said, there were probably hundreds of C64 games. Most were small games that you could fit several to a floppy disc (back when they were actually floppy 5 1/4"). Games like defender and other arcade games. But also many larger games such as winter games, summer games etc. and beachhead I and II. Archon, Archon 2. The only C64 games our family (actually only my brother) bought were like Bards Tale and Wasteland. But I never bought them myself, I played his copy.

For years I went without a computer, then I got a PC. My friend always went to this place where you can rent PC games and then install them on your computer. I'm ashamed that I never bought X-com. It's such a great game, they deserve my money. We had to write down all the codes that were in the manual on a piece of paper to start the game. And we rented Master of Magic as well. But after that I bought all my games (many that were bad such as Star Wars Rebellion and Nascar Racing).

but after I moved back to the same city my family came from I started getting games from my brother again. Games like Baldur's Gate 2: Shadows of Amn I have never bought!. I used his copy of the game. But I did get Throne of Bhaal as a birthday present- that is a legitimate copy.

And the way my thread question is worded it doesn't actually cover birithday presents. . oh well. Many of my games I do get for presents (because I ask for them specifically).

Also Axis and Allies: iron blitz is a burned copy of the expansion game) but I did buy the original. I never even play the expansion- I like the origianl rules. too bad the ai sucks.

of all the games currently on my hard drive: the only games that aren't legitimate copies are Baldur's Gate: shadows of amn (the expansion is legit), and colonization (got from the doggy site), and Iron Blitz.

	29-04-2005 00:03									#21
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quote: Originally posted by ravagon This would, no doubt, be due to the immense list of those you've played and the time required to go through all of them to find the miniscule few that you haven't actually bought?

Nothing gets past you huh?

	02-05-2005 02:57									#22
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I didn't buy Civ III, and I never will. I won't buy Civ IV either if they refuse to have a world map which places nations in their historical geographic positions.

Being forced to use a mod made editor to achieve what was a default setting in Civ II is such breathtaking neglect on the part of Firaxis, that I felt ethically obligated to boycott the game.

So I feel happy about the hole in my game collection that Civ III creates.

	02-05-2005 03:35									#23
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earthist

	02-05-2005 23:06									#24
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quote: Originally posted by Bkeela I didn't buy Civ III, and I never will. I won't buy Civ IV either if they refuse to have a world map which places nations in their historical geographic positions. Being forced to use a mod made editor to achieve what was a default setting in Civ II is such breathtaking neglect on the part of Firaxis, that I felt ethically obligated to boycott the game. So I feel happy about the hole in my game collection that Civ III creates.

There are good reasons for boycotting Civ3.

That is not one of them.

	03-05-2005 21:10									#25
	Support Apolyton, buy Galactic Civilizations

I once lived in an apartment complex where people left old "stuff" in a trash room, where you could take stuff that was any good. I found a copy of Simearth there, with its box and manual. Not that i played it much.

In similar circumstances i found a copy of RELee:Civil War General. Which I played a few times.

I played AOK at a friend's, which inspired me to get AOE (and ultimately Civ)

My only experience playing a console was some game called Spiro Gyra or something, at one of POTM's friends houses. Didnt inspire me.

	03-05-2005 21:13									#26
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Spyro isn't the best example of console games. But generally PC is superior in most ways anyway IMO.

	03-05-2005 21:32									#27
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quote: Originally posted by lord of the mark I once lived in an apartment complex where people left old "stuff" in a trash room, where you could take stuff that was any good. I found a copy of Simearth there, with its box and manual. Not that i played it much.

Did you also find Grim Fandango there too?

quote: My only experience playing a console was some game called Spiro Gyra or something, at one of POTM's friends houses. Didnt inspire me.

"Your dad's sooooo..... uncool".

	03-05-2005 21:34									#28
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duke: You can't use the [q ] and the [quote ] tags like that, as you see. BTW; Grim Fandango is that game with the weird skeleton, right?

EDIT: I see you edited it to become right.

	03-05-2005 22:58									#29
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quote: Originally posted by lord of the mark I once lived in an apartment complex where people left old "stuff" in a trash room. I found a copy of Simearth there, with its box and manual.

	04-05-2005 01:08									#30
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[QUOTE] Originally posted by duke o' york


Did you also find Grim Fandango there too?

Theres some kind of Grim Fandango trash room joke im not getting, right?