29-04-2005 03:41									#61
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quote: Originally posted by MrFun Not all Southerners are/were stupid. Martin Luther King Jr., for example, as someone already mentioned.

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	29-04-2005 04:20									#63
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Martin Luther King is not a southerner, hes black. southerners are white trailer trash.

	29-04-2005 04:21									#64
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Some southerners drive NASCAR

I think what makes ppl equate stupid with southern is the drawl... Kind of like those Minnesotans with their weird backwoods blueblood accent

	29-04-2005 09:22									#65
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quote: Originally posted by Oerdin For the third time no one ever claimed all southerners were stupid. It was simply pointed out that her is a stupid southerner and that there have been stupid southerners in the past.

Can you repeat for the fourth time?

	29-04-2005 16:58									#66
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quote: Originally posted by Guynemer I call bullshit. If he's such a widely-recognized buffoon, how does he get elected? By representing the beliefs of his constituents, that's how. Now if you are, by extension, calling his constituents buffoons, you have my full support.

He represents an area near Tuscaloosa. Of course I'm also calling his constituents buffoons.

	29-04-2005 18:44									#67
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Even if this law passes, I doubt many books will be burned. That would require that they be read to determine if they qualified.

	30-04-2005 01:34									#68
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You'll never see a more avid reader than a crusading dipshit with an ignorant constituency and an axe to grind, rah.

	30-04-2005 03:19									#69
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quote: Originally posted by BlackCat Do you really mean that delusions based upon a 2000 year old fantasy book are a stable ground for todays society ?

Whether you or I believe that its a '2000 year old fantasy book' is irrelevant. The fact remains that the vast majority of the earths population believe in some type of 'supreme being'. Ignoring or belittling those beliefs is foolish and often not without serious consequences.

	30-04-2005 03:41									#70
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quote: Originally posted by SpencerH Whether you or I believe that its a '2000 year old fantasy book' is irrelevant. The fact remains that the vast majority of the earths population believe in some type of 'supreme being'. Ignoring or belittling those beliefs is foolish and often not without serious consequences.

Actually, I don't mind if people has any kind of religious beliefs, it's their business.

What really bothers me is when they try to dictate others to live by their special rules, and I certainly are against any kind of influence they haved on legislation.

OF course I won't go into a church, mosque or whatever worshiphousing they may have, and say that they are living on an illusion - I'm not suicidal - but I won't keep quiet in common debate,

	30-04-2005 04:09									#71
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quote: Originally posted by SpencerH Whether you or I believe that its a '2000 year old fantasy book' is irrelevant. The fact remains that the vast majority of the earths population believe in some type of 'supreme being'.

Belief in a supreme being is not necessarily tied to:
a) believing in the Bible
b) interpreting the Bible in a homophobic manner

What does a ban on books with gay characters have to do with religion anyways? I don't that that even in Leviticus there's a "Thou shalt not write about homosexuality".

	30-04-2005 04:29									#72
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Wasn't there some part of the bible with gay characters or men having sex with men, or implying gayness?

If so, fundies want to burn the bible. It would be hilarious if this law passed, then someone pointed out that the bible violated it. Poetic justice.

	30-04-2005 06:29									#73
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quote: Originally posted by BlackCat Actually, I don't mind if people has any kind of religious beliefs, it's their business. What really bothers me is when they try to dictate others to live by their special rules, and I certainly are against any kind of influence they haved on legislation. OF course I won't go into a church, mosque or whatever worshiphousing they may have, and say that they are living on an illusion - I'm not suicidal - but I won't keep quiet in common debate,

You may be bothered by their 'special rules' resulting from their religious beliefs, but then they may be bothered by your 'special rules' which may be determined by your belief in something else, science perhaps. I see no difference.

I assume you have opinions based upon your beliefs (not necessarily religious beliefs of course) and that you believe in some type of democratic government where the people who reside in a place get to make the laws that govern themselves.

Thats all thats happening here.

	30-04-2005 06:48									#74
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quote: Originally posted by St Leo quote: Originally posted by SpencerH Whether you or I believe that its a '2000 year old fantasy book' is irrelevant. The fact remains that the vast majority of the earths population believe in some type of 'supreme being'. Belief in a supreme being is not necessarily tied to: a) believing in the Bible b) interpreting the Bible in a homophobic manner What does a ban on books with gay characters have to do with religion anyways? I don't that that even in Leviticus there's a "Thou shalt not write about homosexuality".

That comment was in reply to a comment made in reply to a comment made in reply to DeathByTheSwords rant which IMO is not focussed on christianity per se since homosexuality is forbidden or shunned by most of the major religions/population (not entirely sure about buddists and China). Therefore, rather than focussing my reply on christianity, I generalized my remarks toward 'supreme-being' rather than use the term "Christian/Moslem/Jewish/Hindu/Sikh etc gods".

As for why such people want to ban such books, I would think it obvious. They strongly believe homosexuality to be wrong and dont wish to promote the behaviour. I disagree with them, but accept their right to try to act in a democratic fashion.

	01-05-2005 01:57									#75
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quote: (not entirely sure about buddists and China).

not sure about buddists also but in general most of the eastern 'religions' have no problems with homosexuality because it has always been apart of there culture.

and now i will just up again and tend to my bunnies

	01-05-2005 02:15									#76
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quote: Originally posted by SpencerH You may be bothered by their 'special rules' resulting from their religious beliefs, but then they may be bothered by your 'special rules' which may be determined by your belief in something else, science perhaps. I see no difference. I assume you have opinions based upon your beliefs (not necessarily religious beliefs of course) and that you believe in some type of democratic government where the people who reside in a place get to make the laws that govern themselves. Thats all thats happening here.

Oh, I don't care about their special rules as long as they don't try to impose them on nonbelivers and as long as it is adults imposing it on themselves.

My "way" is as you have guessed nonreligious, but that doesn't imply that I want religious people to drop it, it's really their problem if they want to let their lifes be dictated by fantasies.

You are of course rigth that if the majority in a country want to be dictated by fantasies, then it's their choice - just don't expect me to stay for long.