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Everytime I see another book burning southern facist I become a bit more sad for America.

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Gay book ban goal of state lawmaker
Wednesday, December 01, 2004
KIM CHANDLER
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MONTGOMERY - An Alabama lawmaker who sought to ban gay marriages now wants to ban novels with gay characters from public libraries, including university libraries.

A bill by Rep. Gerald Allen, R-Cottondale, would prohibit the use of public funds for "the purchase of textbooks or library materials that recognize or promote homosexuality as an acceptable lifestyle." Allen said he filed the bill to protect children from the "homosexual agenda."

"Our culture, how we know it today, is under attack from every angle," Allen said in a press conference Tuesday.

Allen said that if his bill passes, novels with gay protagonists and college textbooks that suggest homosexuality is natural would have to be removed from library shelves and destroyed.

"I guess we dig a big hole and dump them in and bury them," he said.

A spokesman for the Montgomery-based Southern Poverty Law Center called the bill censorship.

"It sounds like Nazi book burning to me," said SPLC spokesman Mark Potok.

Allen pre-filed his bill in advance of the 2005 legislative session, which begins Feb. 1.

If the bill became law, public school textbooks could not present homosexuality as a genetic trait and public libraries couldn't offer books with gay or bisexual characters.

When asked about Tennessee Williams' southern classic "Cat On A Hot Tin Roof," Allen said the play probably couldn't be performed by university theater groups.

Allen said no state funds should be used to pay for materials that foster homosexuality. He said that would include nonfiction books that suggest homosexuality is acceptable and fiction novels with gay characters. While that would ban books like "Heather has Two Mommies," it could also include classic and popular novels with gay characters such as "The Color Purple," "The Picture of Dorian Gray" and "Brideshead Revisted."

The bill also would ban materials that recognize or promote a lifestyle or actions prohibited by the sodomy and sexual misconduct laws of Alabama. Allen said that meant books with heterosexual couples committing those acts likely would be banned, too.

His bill also would prohibit a teacher from handing out materials or bringing in a classroom speaker who suggested homosexuality was OK, he said.

Allen has sponsored legislation to make a gay marriage ban part of the Alabama Constitution, but it was not approved by the Legislature.

Ken Baker, a board member of Equality Alabama, a gay rights organization, said Allen was "attempting to become the George Wallace of homosexuality."

Aside from the moral debates, the bill could be problematic for library collections, said Jaunita Owes, director of the Montgomery City-County Library, which is a few blocks from the Alabama Capitol.

"Half the books in the library could end up being banned. It's all based on how one interprets the material," Owes said.

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Damn stupid southerners

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So what is it you object to, government regulation of what books are paid for with public money, or state politicians speaking up for what they believe in?

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And notice--it's a scalawag proposing it. He has already sould his soul as it is.

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Setting: Ghana's First Independance day
Backround: first colony to be freed under the policy of deconolonisation
Date: 6 March 1957

Nixon: What does it feel like to be free?
Black Journalists: We dont know. We're from Alabama.

nothings changed since 1957.



Screw the South

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Incidentally, the TX House just passed a gay marriage/civil union ban.

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Allen does not really believe in the bill, but he knows enough of his constituents love that kind of grandstanding that proposing a doomed bill is worth it.

Note that he does not want to ban books, movies, and plays that imply that incest is unnatural, because if he did he would be voted out of office in a second!

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Incidentally, the TX House just passed a gay marriage/civil union ban.


Incidentally, a committee in the Calif. Assembly just passed a same-sex marriage bill.

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incidentally, gavin newsome, mayor of Sodom-on-Sea is up to his usual tricks and will soon have legalized gay marriage in california. too bad we werent the first, but at least we arnt the last.

for everyone in middle america, you guys had better watch out: the gay agenda is coming to eat your babies.

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Incidentally, the TX House just passed a gay marriage/civil union ban.
Yep, to "protect marriage." Now, everyone, probably even Texans, could figure out that if you want to 'protect marriage" you just ban divorce and allow gay marriage.

Somehow, i don't think banning divorce is on even the Texas legislature's radar scree, and thus "protecting marriage" seems as far away as ever.

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incidentally, gavin newsome, mayor of Sodom-on-Sea is up to his usual tricks and will soon have legalized gay marriage in california. too bad we werent the first, but at least we arnt the last.


Wow... Newsome will be Mayor for Life in San Francisco after this .

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oh yeah, for sure. we love him in san francisco, but sometimes it goes a little too far. there was an article recently praising how hard he works and how hes a workaholic and how no other mayor has worked as hard as he does. thats going a little overboard i think, cuz willie brown worked pretty hard securing bribes and contracts for his friends, and he didnt get caught.

he might even work his way up to governor/ senate, but I think he will max out at that. too many bigots in the overrepresented south.

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How dare you speak of the beloved south in such a way, you yankee. I challenge you to a duel!

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sure, no problem. if you come from the city, you are 9 times more likely to go to jail for a crime involving firearms then if you are from the country. southerners hunt squirrels, we hunt each other.

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Outlawed you say?! Is this more Yankee trickery. Very well then, I challenge you to a game on hungry, hungry hippos. The winner shall bring pride to his family and state.

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"All men (people) are created equal"

The unalienable rights as written in the constitution "Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happyness."

OMG! Southerners hate America and all of its freedoms!

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Outlawed you say?! Is this more Yankee trickery. Very well then, I challenge you to a game on hungry, hungry hippos. The winner shall bring pride to his family and state.


Hungry, Hungry Hippos

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The ****? This would ban at least half of the best science fiction and fantasy written in the last twenty years.

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Southerners don't read anyway...

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"Our culture, how we know it today, is under attack from every angle," Allen said in a press conference Tuesday.


Anyone else note some irony present in this statement?

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This is the same guy that, in the wake of the University of Alabama's football probation, introduced a bill that would make the NCAA have to go through circuit court before it could impose any penalties on member institutions in the state. He's a buffoon, to put it mildly, and widely recognized as such.

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for everyone in middle america, you guys had better watch out: the gay agenda is coming to eat your babies.


Why is the Chili's commercial going through my head?

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So one legislator equals an entire region of the USA?

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So one legislator equals an entire region of the USA?
Oerdin's gone a little shall we say crazy since the last Presidential election.

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A spokesman for the Montgomery-based Southern Poverty Law Center called the bill censorship.

"It sounds like Nazi book burning to me," said SPLC spokesman Mark Potok.


Yep, no idea where the guys fighting this bill hail from.

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In the North book burning, sheet-wearing bigots aren't elected to public office.

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WE don't all burn books!

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In the North book burning, sheet-wearing bigots aren't elected to public office.


Of course not.

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Hmm, didn't finish that post.

In the North book burning, sheet-wearing bigots aren't elected to public office as often.

 
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