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Turn chat log - make a note about the bug that occured
we have moved two warriors from Memphix out and they are in the city in the next trun
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[27.4.2005 20:28:40] Todor:
hellouuuu
[27.4.2005 20:44:35] Krill:
hi. just got back from having dinner
[27.4.2005 20:45:29] Todor:
me too
[27.4.2005 20:45:47] Krill:
want to play the save?
[27.4.2005 20:45:54] Todor:
yes, of course
[27.4.2005 20:46:20] Krill:
opening the save then...
[27.4.2005 20:46:26] Todor:
there is one hour until the match between liverpool and chelsea starts
[27.4.2005 20:46:48] Todor:
I have the feeling I'll stop watching it after the first half but there could be a miracle 
[27.4.2005 20:47:26] Todor:
I had little chat with pady today
[27.4.2005 20:47:40] Krill:
Chelsea have it in the bag. how was the chat with Paddy?
[27.4.2005 20:47:42] Todor:
they have 15 members, 11 of them active
[27.4.2005 20:48:06] Todor:
he told me thier warriors are withdrawing
[27.4.2005 20:48:24] Todor:
I guess he tried to get some intelligence
[27.4.2005 20:48:36] Todor:
but the general reason was to fix our relations
[27.4.2005 20:48:39] Krill:
or show somee
[27.4.2005 20:48:50] Krill:
(intelligence)
[27.4.2005 20:49:43] Todor:
so, some very interesting choices
[27.4.2005 20:49:58] Todor:
let's finish the easy part forst - move the scouting warriors
[27.4.2005 20:50:09] Krill:
did you see the thread Lube made?
[27.4.2005 20:50:25] Krill:
it said about researching a tech at 50 turns
[27.4.2005 20:50:33] Todor:
no, I didn't
I'll open the forums now
[27.4.2005 20:50:39] Krill:
it has been deleted now.
[27.4.2005 20:50:45] Todor:
[27.4.2005 20:51:17] Krill:
Tthe choooices were republic, Monarchy, Construction or Currency
[27.4.2005 20:51:39] Todor:
were did he post this thread?
[27.4.2005 20:52:47] Krill:
in the public forum.
[27.4.2005 20:53:01] Krill:
it happens in every demogame.
[27.4.2005 20:54:08] Todor:
was addressed to us?
[27.4.2005 20:55:02] Krill:
no, it was addressed to BOH. it was an internal BOH thread (or should have been...)
[27.4.2005 20:55:30] Todor:
ah, I see
[27.4.2005 20:55:44] Todor:
we can't take it seriously - it may be misleading
[27.4.2005 20:57:05] Krill:
I'm not taking it seriously, but it would make sense. they could be trying do a sword upgrade.
[27.4.2005 20:57:24] Todor:
very probably really
[27.4.2005 20:57:32] Krill:
hit us with about 20 swords, and we are toast.
[27.4.2005 20:57:40] Todor:
we should develop as fast as possible
[27.4.2005 20:57:59] Todor:
20 swords is the same production as 30 war chariots
[27.4.2005 20:59:27] Krill:
no, when they are upgraded, 20 swords are equal to 10 WC. They just fall behind in tech.
[27.4.2005 20:59:50] Krill:
and ATM, tech is not important.
[27.4.2005 21:01:12] Krill:
move the scouts?
[27.4.2005 21:01:31] Todor:
yeah, you're right
[27.4.2005 21:01:33] Todor:
brb
[27.4.2005 21:02:09] Krill:
suggestions: Grog 2, Cohen 9, Carcen 8
[27.4.2005 21:07:22] Todor:
agree for all of them
[27.4.2005 21:09:23] Krill:
FYI we can get a settler in two turn from Home. But I don't suggest it.
[27.4.2005 21:11:26] Krill:
i suggest we pump out WC until we are about to hit size 6, then build a settler and go into the 8 turn pump mode
[27.4.2005 21:11:31] Todor:
we need military units
the settlers will be produced in Memphis
[27.4.2005 21:11:36] Todor:
we should make some workers
[27.4.2005 21:11:51] Krill:
we caan geet a worker in twoo turns from memphis.
[27.4.2005 21:12:01] Krill:
That i do want to do.
[27.4.2005 21:12:23] Todor:
we could make barracks in Helio
[27.4.2005 21:13:44] Krill:
I thiink that is a prudent choice. 
[27.4.2005 21:15:30] Todor:
where should we move our warriors?
[27.4.2005 21:16:54] Krill:
I waant to put two warriors on the horses, so that they can't be pillaged
[27.4.2005 21:16:56] Krill:
BRB
[27.4.2005 21:20:30] Krill:
back
[27.4.2005 21:23:08] Todor:
I'd like to send PS north to catch our workers
[27.4.2005 21:23:26] Todor:
maybe it's too late but we should try
[27.4.2005 21:24:30] Krill:
OK, i have some thoughtts on 50 turn research. If we can get CoL, then we can research republic, and make alot of gold, for sword upgrades for ourselves, as well as WCs'
[27.4.2005 21:24:45] Krill:
Agree wiith wirkers and PS
[27.4.2005 21:24:48] Todor:
on the mountain with the Euphorica archer there is a settler
I'm going to ask McM where should our warrior go to continue his explorations
[27.4.2005 21:25:50] Krill:
OK
[27.4.2005 21:27:01] Todor:
PS - 7-8
[27.4.2005 21:27:16] Todor:
we have one warrior in each of our 3 core cities
[27.4.2005 21:27:25] Todor:
in memphis - 2 warriors
[27.4.2005 21:27:40] Krill:
wait!!
[27.4.2005 21:28:03] Krill:
have you moved PS?
[27.4.2005 21:29:55] Todor:
no, still not
[27.4.2005 21:30:13] Krill:
Don't move PS 7-8
[27.4.2005 21:32:45] Todor:
it will be spotted from BOH warrior next turn
[27.4.2005 21:33:04] Todor:
but any other move will rewuire one more turn because of the forests and hills over there
[27.4.2005 21:33:25] Krill:
if the waarrior moves onto the mountain next turn, yes it will
[27.4.2005 21:34:47] Krill:
what about going between the see and the jungle? (4774)
[27.4.2005 21:34:54] Krill:
*sea
[27.4.2005 21:35:37] Todor:
the wounded warrior will spot it
[27.4.2005 21:37:32] Krill:
only if that warrior moves 1 or 2
[27.4.2005 21:38:44] Todor:
no, it will stay there and when we move 7-8 next turn he will see us
[27.4.2005 21:40:51] Krill:
only other way would to then mov 7-7, then 8-9, or to move the two warriors in memphis 8, and attack the wounded warrior next turn, thus hiding our WC
[27.4.2005 21:41:57] Krill:
or we could attack bataar warrior, but w will probably end up having to attack with PS anyway...
[27.4.2005 21:42:16] Todor:
but we will too far behind
[27.4.2005 21:44:25] Todor:
here is a plan
[27.4.2005 21:44:44] Todor:
we move both warriors out of Memphis - 8
and PS 7-8
[27.4.2005 21:45:09] Todor:
they spot our chariot and move the workers 8 (they should be 8-8-9 from memphis now)
[27.4.2005 21:45:59] Todor:
their warrior should be moved in some direction too
[27.4.2005 21:46:14] Todor:
if it is in the range of our guys we will attack it
[27.4.2005 21:46:23] Todor:
if not - move once again north
[27.4.2005 21:46:38] Todor:
the chariot will move 8-8 to the forest
[27.4.2005 21:47:15] Todor:
the idea is we will catch the workers with the chariot just before they leave the mountains and hills
their only rescue is to stay a mountain
[27.4.2005 21:47:25] Todor:
that's where our warrior will come
[27.4.2005 21:47:43] Todor:
we will stop chasing their warrior at one point and move our guy to the mountains
[27.4.2005 21:48:00] Todor:
after this both units will stay there as sentries
[27.4.2005 21:49:33] Krill:
OK, how does this change things: what if we built a horse in two turns in Home, what if the wounded warrior movees 2, and what if there are reinforcements coming over the mountains?
[27.4.2005 21:54:20] Todor:
two turns means we will not catch them
[27.4.2005 21:54:33] Todor:
reinforcements - we should place scouts
[27.4.2005 21:57:13] Krill:
i mean use the horse in addition to the WC and workers, to "widen the net"
[27.4.2005 21:59:19] Todor:
and if the wounded warrior moves two we should kill him
[27.4.2005 21:59:37] Todor:
but I think they will prefer moving him north - out of our reah
[27.4.2005 22:00:53] Krill:
i would move him 2. i don't know what Bongo will do, however...
[27.4.2005 22:01:41] Todor:
do you know? you are right - bongo is their General
[27.4.2005 22:01:45] Krill:
we need to move a warrior to the west side of the rver then.
[27.4.2005 22:02:41] Krill:
out of their group, bongo is the mostt skilled.
[27.4.2005 22:05:43] Krill:
we need to rename the newly built warriors
[27.4.2005 22:06:30] Todor:
I have no ideas
[27.4.2005 22:06:59] Krill:
My suggestion for the one in memphis is Mr Scrub (or whatever it is in Bulgrian). That was deaths name in Souls Music apt...
[27.4.2005 22:07:22] Krill:
and for the one in Helio: Duckman.
[27.4.2005 22:07:42] Todor:
alright
[27.4.2005 22:08:03] Todor:
I'm stunned
[27.4.2005 22:08:11] Krill:
why?
[27.4.2005 22:08:13] Todor:
how could you now a bulgarian word?
[27.4.2005 22:08:16] Todor:
[27.4.2005 22:08:30] Todor:
this means 'sorrow'
[27.4.2005 22:08:39] Todor:
not death
[27.4.2005 22:08:53] Krill:
scrub? means death?
[27.4.2005 22:08:56] Todor:
death is 'smurt' or 'smyrt' or 'smart'
[27.4.2005 22:09:13] Todor:
scrub means sorrow, smurt is death
[27.4.2005 22:10:07] Krill:
that it, all of the germanic languages are messed up...
[27.4.2005 22:11:04] Krill:
Name one of them Smurt, and the other Scrub, if you wish tme I bought aa Bulgariann dictionary
[27.4.2005 22:11:10] Todor:
I have three words two lines above because you don;t have a letter for this sound although you are using it very often
[27.4.2005 22:11:31] Todor:
really? why?
[27.4.2005 22:20:13] Krill:
I can speaak oonly onne language, English, and I can read and write Latin, but I would liike to learn the bascs to another langauge...BRB
[27.4.2005 22:21:17] Todor:
the only easy thing in our language is that we are writing what we are pronouncing
everythin else is confusing
[27.4.2005 22:21:42] Krill:
back...
[27.4.2005 22:21:45] Todor:
for example you have only two articles - 'a' and 'the'
[27.4.2005 22:21:58] Todor:
we have 7 I ithnk
[27.4.2005 22:22:04] Todor:
but there could be more
[27.4.2005 22:22:17] Todor:
and we are placing them at the end of the word not in front
[27.4.2005 22:22:48] Todor:
anyway
[27.4.2005 22:23:12] Todor:
if you want to learn Bulgarian I'll try to help you as much as possible
[27.4.2005 22:23:18] Krill:
and Latin does not even have one article...shheesh, that has got to be diifficult...
[27.4.2005 22:23:26] Todor:
I have a new plan about the chariot
[27.4.2005 22:23:34] Krill:
OK, what is it?
[27.4.2005 22:23:53] Todor:
move PS 4-7-8
[27.4.2005 22:24:23] Todor:
next turn 9, after this 8-8 and 6-8
[27.4.2005 22:24:32] Todor:
we will reach the workers just in time
[27.4.2005 22:24:44] Todor:
but will see us when we approach
[27.4.2005 22:25:30] Todor:
I hoped to catch them before they reach the hills and get wider view
[27.4.2005 22:25:39] Krill:
we could move 4-7-8, then 9-8, so they don't see us at all. if we just move 9, then they will see the WC
[27.4.2005 22:27:14] Todor:
the workers will be most probably 88887 from Home at this time
[27.4.2005 22:27:20] Todor:
posted in the wrong window
[27.4.2005 22:27:47] Krill:
my reply iis over there as well...
[27.4.2005 22:28:37] Krill:
where do you think the workers are know?
[27.4.2005 22:28:38] Krill:
now?
[27.4.2005 22:28:49] Krill:
889 of meemphs?
[27.4.2005 22:28:52] Todor:
they are 9-9 from their wounded warrior
[27.4.2005 22:28:55] Todor:
yes
[27.4.2005 22:29:36] Todor:
if there was no river at Home we could have them after two turns
[27.4.2005 22:30:46] Krill:
i wanted to settle Home 9 of its' current position because of this reason. No onne listened...
[27.4.2005 22:31:20] Krill:
move the WC 78.
[27.4.2005 22:32:02] Krill:
if they move tthe workers bafore Bataar, then we can steal one, and maybe the other...
[27.4.2005 22:33:12] Todor:
alright
[27.4.2005 22:34:43] Todor:
city production
Home - wf 2-3-6-7, Horseman in 2 turns
[27.4.2005 22:34:48] Todor:
growth in 4
[27.4.2005 22:35:21] Todor:
memphis - wf 4-1-3-33, growth in 2, worker in 3 (but should be two with city pop increase)
[27.4.2005 22:35:50] Todor:
Helio - 8-9-89, growth in 2, barracks in 14
[27.4.2005 22:36:13] Krill:
wht about Helioo 8-9-3?
[27.4.2005 22:36:14] Todor:
TMR - no changes
[27.4.2005 22:36:49] Todor:
ok
[27.4.2005 22:37:02] Todor:
TMR wf goes to 87
[27.4.2005 22:37:34] Krill:
because we could then change helio to build a WC in two turns, if it is needed.
[27.4.2005 22:38:05] Todor:
no, it's the best thing with no downsides
[27.4.2005 22:38:13] Todor:
I didn;t see the shield in TMR is wasted
[27.4.2005 22:46:39] Todor:
fowler chops
[27.4.2005 22:46:49] Todor:
troll - irrigate?
[27.4.2005 22:47:48] Krill:
move him 8 and mine. if the conscript moves 9, we have to protect two things, nd wee do't haave the units...
[27.4.2005 22:48:16] Todor:
and that tile could be used by three cities
[27.4.2005 22:48:22] Todor:
ok, 8 and mine
[27.4.2005 22:49:16] Krill:
carrot 6 and fort
[27.4.2005 22:49:27] Krill:
WWNN fort
[27.4.2005 22:49:42] Krill:
warrior in helio 8
[27.4.2005 22:49:53] Krill:
AS fort
[27.4.2005 22:50:39] Todor:
if Helio warrior stays in the city we can drop the lux back to 0%
[27.4.2005 22:51:26] Krill:
we have to keep lux at 10% if we move both warriors out of Memphis.
[27.4.2005 22:51:50] Todor:
will we move them? I thought you don;t like the idea
[27.4.2005 22:52:31] Krill:
I do like the idea. I want those workers back.
[27.4.2005 22:53:10] Todor:
alright
[27.4.2005 22:53:32] Todor:
Scrub (new warrior in memphis) and MLS - 8
[27.4.2005 22:53:43] Todor:
Smurt (new warrior in Helio) - 8
[27.4.2005 22:54:45] Todor:
science to 10%
[27.4.2005 22:54:58] Todor:
(maybe we are the last to discover the math)
[27.4.2005 22:55:15] Krill:
I reckon we are.
[27.4.2005 22:56:15] Krill:
aftr this, We should horde gold, for sword upgrades and buying tech cheaply (about 10 gold per tech pont I think is fair.)
[27.4.2005 22:57:28] Todor:
and go for the currency
[27.4.2005 22:57:55] Krill:
yeah, I like that idea
[27.4.2005 23:02:08] Todor:
anything else before save ad send?
[27.4.2005 23:03:06] Krill:
we have alot of culture
[27.4.2005 23:03:23] Krill:
double everyone elses'
[27.4.2005 23:03:40] Krill:
other than that, no, send the save
[27.4.2005 23:03:41] Todor:
we will win with a cultural victory
[27.4.2005 23:04:12] Todor:
one barbarian out one in
[27.4.2005 23:04:17] Krill:
bah, i would rather kill everyone else. I am not a nice guy
[27.4.2005 23:04:31] Todor:
the one "in" is near caracen (babylon territory)
[27.4.2005 23:05:08] Krill:
move 8, we'll win that battle...
[27.4.2005 23:12:54] Krill:
just so you know, I'll be away from friday evening until monday morning. Play the game like a PBEM
[27.4.2005 23:13:29] Todor:
fine, thank
[27.4.2005 23:15:04] Krill:
BTW, can I have a look at your chat with Paddy?
[27.4.2005 23:15:34] Todor:
no, not yet
[27.4.2005 23:15:55] Todor:
we have talked while I was at work
I'll see if I can fetch it from the history tomorrow
[27.4.2005 23:20:41] Krill:
OK, thanks
[27.4.2005 23:41:24] Todor:
liverpool need just one goal more than chelsea to go to the final
[27.4.2005 23:55:48] Krill:
we'll see, we'll see...
[27.4.2005 23:59:26] Todor:
good night
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