01-05-2005 12:01									#91
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara I live in the 3rd gayest city in the U.S. now.

You're not trying hard enough.

	01-05-2005 19:13									#92
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui Woot... my seminar paper is more exciting than yours! Mine is about a Comparison of American and European Hate Speech Laws (with some good ole' statistics thrown in).

Whether or not something is exciting or boring, is all subjective.


And my subjectivity tells me yours is more boring than mine.

	02-05-2005 02:01									#93
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	02-05-2005 02:29									#94
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quote: Originally posted by MrFun teh ColdWizard rocks!

My subjectivity tells me yours is ****ed up.

	02-05-2005 02:42									#95
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My thesis is positively exciting compared to all yours.

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	02-05-2005 02:56									#96
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I even have diagrams!!!!!

	02-05-2005 03:05									#97
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quote: Originally posted by MrFun Whether or not something is exciting or boring, is all subjective. And my subjectivity tells me yours is more boring than mine.

That's ok, because your subjectivity is pretty boring .

	02-05-2005 03:20									#98
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	02-05-2005 03:59									#99
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quote: Originally posted by Agathon I even have diagrams!!!!!

Prove it!

	02-05-2005 04:09									#100
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quote: Originally posted by ColdWizard Prove it!

IIRC this is the next page or the page after.

	02-05-2005 04:19									#101
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This is one of the others. I only put them in at the insistence of one of my readers.

Makes lots of sense, eh?

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	02-05-2005 05:21									#102
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quote: Originally posted by Agathon I even have diagrams!!!!!

So how many footnotes did you end up with? 632 is a pretty impressive number.

	02-05-2005 05:26									#103
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dunno. I'll look. This is a reasonably complete draft, so there will only be a few more.

OK

824 so far. But more than half of those are references like Phd. 76b8 which are just references to Plato (in this case Stephanus' Page 76 section b line 8 of the Phaedo).

	02-05-2005 05:34									#104
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They still count.

With 824 footnotes, can you even claim to have written it yourself?

	02-05-2005 05:42									#105
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quote: With 824 footnotes, can you even claim to have written it yourself?

If many of the footnotes say things like "here I disagree with X, who is full of crap", then sure..

Of course, some of them are just people who I agree with on mainstream issues to do with the stuff I'm writing about, but who haven't dealt with my specific topic – because nobody really has.

My supervisor shares a similar view to me (that's how I got interested in it), but he's never gone through the text and tried to provide a definitive account of it.

	02-05-2005 22:39									#106
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui That's ok, because your subjectivity is pretty boring .

Apolyton would not be the same without baseball-loving, Raegan-worshipping, Arafat cuddlers like you.

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	03-05-2005 00:23									#108
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Did anyone else catch that "Sophistry" is bolded -- rather appropriately -- in Aggie's thesis?

It looks like crap. There's no way you could get away with that kind of stuff in a real field.

What the hell kind of footnote is "Here I agree with Bob".

Terrible excuse for academic masturbation. Time to cull some jobs and funnel the money elsewhere.

	03-05-2005 00:25									#109
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I'm not even going to touch the grammar.

	03-05-2005 00:32									#110
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quote: What the hell kind of footnote is "Here I agree with Bob".

It's better then the footnotes in the first example... it's like half the page!! Is he writing the whole paper in small fonts?! It's a 450 page thesis, but with out footnotes it's like 5 pages

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It really does sicken me to know that my tax dollars go to waste funding that kind of ****. It's a waste of virtual ink.

	03-05-2005 00:36									#112
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quote: Originally posted by Barinthus

I wuv you.

	03-05-2005 00:39									#113
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quote: Originally posted by Japher It's better then the footnotes in the first example... it's like half the page!! Is he writing the whole paper in small fonts?! It's a 450 page thesis, but with out footnotes it's like 5 pages

Hey, I've seen worse in Academic papers. I've seen history papers in which only one line on a page was part of the paper, and the rest of the page was a footnote.

Personally, I hate footnotes and would prefer endnotes. If you have that many notes, that's the preferable solution. I'd rather have the choice to look up the references than see a page full of footnotes that I may or may not be interested in reading at the moment.

	03-05-2005 00:40									#114
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quote: Personally, I hate footnotes and would prefer endnotes. If you have that many notes, that's the preferable solution. I'd rather have the choice to look up the references than see a page full of footnotes that I may or may not be interested in reading at the moment.

I agree

or, just plagerize.

	03-05-2005 00:42									#115
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quote: Originally posted by Asher What the hell kind of footnote is "Here I agree with Bob".

It means: "I haven't originally invented the idea, and here are the credits" which is something important in the academia.

Besides it meand "While I can oppose Bob on other issues, in this particular case, I agree with his argumentation I linked to - just so that you can better understand how Bob's argument fits into mine".

Completely useless indeed

	03-05-2005 00:44									#116
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quote: Originally posted by Boris Godunov Hey, I've seen worse in Academic papers. I've seen history papers in which only one line on a page was part of the paper, and the rest of the page was a footnote.

	03-05-2005 00:44									#117
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shouldn't you agree or disagree with an idea in the body of the papper, and footnote where the idea originated?

	03-05-2005 00:45									#118
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Not if the idea is tangental to your main thesis.

	03-05-2005 00:50									#119
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quote: Originally posted by Japher shouldn't you agree or disagree with an idea in the body of the papper, and footnote where the idea originated?

Well, my advisor talked with me about my paper recently again, and he said that I need to limit direct inclusion of secondary source material and instead, use even more footnotes than I already have.

So yes, according to my advisor, footnoting the idea while expressing agreement or disagreement is the way to go. So that you can provide more of an original argument on why you agree/disagree, rather than rehash everything the other author discussed on a particular point.

	03-05-2005 00:51									#120
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quote: So that you can provide more of an original argument on why you agree/disagree, rather than rehash everything the other author discussed on a particular point.

good point