29-04-2005 08:14									#1
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Should I get Never Winter Nights Complete or Nexus: the Jupiter Incident?

I have an aversion to any computer games that are based on AD&D, although if it is really good, I could give it a shot. As for the other game, the blurb on the box doesn't tell me anything, and I have a sneaky suspicion that it has confused battleship for warship.

	29-04-2005 08:22									#2
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if you dislike AD&D that much... I doubt you'll like NWN that much. What other RPG's do you like? If you like rpg's then get NWN. If not, then don't. haven't played the other game, so I can't say.

	29-04-2005 09:33									#3
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I bought NWN Platinum. Its OK, but I'm not gaga. I tried the original campaign and its pretty much hack and slash. Some NWN afficionados told me the other campaigns are better. I'll try them out someday.

	29-04-2005 09:50									#4
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The NWN you buy is only a small portion of it. The toolset and the numerous fan-made modules complement it enormously. It does seem to have an awful lot of depth but it is very AD&D-based.

Nexus also looks very good (I plan on getting a copy sometime soon) and I suspect you'd probably prefer it but I doubt it'll have anywhere near the same longevity...

	29-04-2005 10:23									#5
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I voted NWN.

But after reading about Nexus: The Jupiter Incident, I'd like to change my vote. This game looks good, really good. But then I'm also a fan of space simulators and this one looks like a 3d version of SFC.

	29-04-2005 11:26									#6
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For computer RPGs I like Wizardry 6-8. Also The Summoning and Superheroes of Hoboken (truly hilarious). I also played some of the Ultima series and one really old one called Questron.

	29-04-2005 11:29									#7
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quote: Originally posted by Qilue But then I'm also a fan of space simulators and this one looks like a 3d version of SFC.

Ugh. Starfleet Command stinks. OTOH, Starfleet Battles, the boardgame it is based on, is excellent. I bought SFC on the strengths of SFB, and boy, was I upset.

	29-04-2005 11:45									#8
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quote: Originally posted by Urban Ranger Ugh. Starfleet Command stinks. OTOH, Starfleet Battles, the boardgame it is based on, is excellent. I bought SFC on the strengths of SFB, and boy, was I upset.

I should rephrase, I've adored space sims ever since I played Elite+. So SFC's deficiencies didn't really bother me all that much.

	29-04-2005 12:55									#9
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Elite

	30-04-2005 02:11									#10
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NWN!

	30-04-2005 02:59									#11
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Elite (if you've never played it, but then who hasn't? Er, apart from me - I've only ever played Frontier, but Iwatched my friends playing Elite for hours when I was younger ). Ask Child of Thor how to get it on PC.

Otherwise - NWN!.

	30-04-2005 04:20									#12
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Nexus, the Jupiter Incident gets my vote... but I recommend to try the MP demo or the SP demo beforehand so you're sure your system is up to it.

	30-04-2005 16:14									#13
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Hah, I got this game a couple of months back on Geo's reccommendation, and it is pretty awesome. If you have a really nice computer you can practically sit and gawp at it for a few hours. It has exactly the same "puts people off" point as NWN though - the original campaign. However like NWN its moddable and there are custom battles and campaigns and online games too. Not nearly as many as there are for NWN though.

Having spoken in praise of an excellent tactical space combat game, I'm still going to suggest you buy NWN. Basically DO NOT EVER PLAY THE ORIGINAL CAMPAIGN! Its not that bad, but its a bit of a waste of 40+ hours when you could be playing the SOU and HotU campaigns that come with it in the complete version, before hitting NWN Vault and the infinite glories of the modules to be found there. I've gotta stress this: A mod for NWN is not a modification. Its a module. Its a complete fully playable game of its own, with its own story, dialogues, scripts, rules, spells, locations, characters, hell even its own graphics, sounds...

Also its not AD&D rules. Its D&D 3rd Edition which are rather more interesting rules.

Oh hell, get both, I did.

-Jam

	30-04-2005 16:31									#14
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I may eventually get both, though I don't have a money tree in my backyard

	30-04-2005 16:34									#15
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Then get NWN.

	02-05-2005 01:05									#16
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quote: Originally posted by Jamski Also its not AD&D rules. Its D&D 3rd Edition which are rather more interesting rules.

Munchkin.

	02-05-2005 04:27									#17
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Hard leather boots, high

	02-05-2005 04:31									#18
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Nexus the Jupiter Incident is great on paper, but the pace in it is rather off - lots of waiting. Even if the scenery is pretty, it gets old after a while. I was also confused as to what to do all the time. I'm a big fan of space fleet battle stuff so my tolerance for failings was high as it was, but still I was put off by the game - it lacks finish. In the end I couldn't bear playing it past the first ~six missions.

NWN, OTOH, I've spent inordinate amounts of time with - about an hour to two a day for the past three four months.

	02-05-2005 07:29									#19
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I've actually never heard of Nexus... what is it?

	02-05-2005 23:05									#20
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quote: Originally posted by Kassiopeia NWN, OTOH, I've spent inordinate amounts of time with - about an hour to two a day for the past three four months.

Me too. In total from the OC + xpacks (twice) and Folderol I've spent countless hours on NWN.