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Ljube is offline Ljube
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Traits are fine. However, we should try them in GO 10.

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Ah, Nuke's idea is great But I too want to see General Ordin, among others, returning; an Aggressive Tactical Genius perhaps?


I'm thinking more on the lines of bogus, asshat.

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Traits are fine. However, we should try them in GO 10.


Indeed. We need more time to discuss and balance the traits, as well as seeing if we like the Golden Rules.

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Yes, GO 9 should be Golden Rules only.

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I have dibs on the laser obssessive artillery master

Hercules is offline Hercules
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Yeah I never got to explore the Universe fully.

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I saw we do two games, we step back to the old rules in this one and play it, after the current game completes, and start a new one with a different spin. There is enough interest, IWT

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By "old rules" do you mean Gold Rules minus Allied Defence, basically?

-Jam

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No before M and D, no base or ship swaping....old school GO.

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Apr 2000
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Laser obsessive is too uber. I refuse to deal with LML-MLT OOBs. That's just ****ing ridiculous.

We need to reduce one-weapon-dependency, not increase it.




Edit: OOOH, the long range trait! That's brilliant!


OK, never mind. I think you finally found the balance for Lasers!

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Traits are UBERAWESOME.


Jamski is my hero.

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I need a better name for "Long Ranged Weapons" that would fit the flavour of the other traits.

Also, I'm open to trait suggestions. Anyone think any are too weak/powerful. Any that make insane combinations? Any new ideas?

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Ranged Specialist?


The Laser Obsessives would dominate regular players, but they'd live in fear of the Ranged Specialists.


I like "Alien." Those be awesome. Assimilator is too.

Paranoid is weak.

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I think laser obsessive should be cut. The other weapon traits can stay, but there's enough laser obsession take for granted.

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Here is my suggestion:

The next GO uses Golden Rules only. On the side, we have another game going on that tests the traits. Perhaps we could cap it at ten players, and run two games. One with assigned traits to each character, and another that you can pick traits. Then we can decide which one is better.

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I think laser obsessive should be cut. The other weapon traits can stay, but there's enough laser obsession take for granted.

If you cut laser obsessive, you should cut Long-range specialist as well.


The two together are pretty balanced, but if you only keep one, it throws off the balance.

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Ok, but I'll have to insist that no two players in any game may have the same pair of traits.

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Sounds fine to me. First come first serve on particular combinations, but you can have any of the remaining combinations you want.

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The current game should be wrapping up within a week, perhaps its time to start a sign-up thread.

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So, are we planning to use my idea of three games?

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Put me down for both games. I'm game.

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Here is the signup thread. http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...threadid=133604

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I have a suggestion.

Fourth weapon: Mortar. Or some space equivalent.

Back Off: Mortar x2
Close in: Mortar x0.5

That should nicely limit Laser (being the precise opposite)...

Jonny is offline Jonny
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Taht be quite teh radical change... perhaps we could try that out on the next Eventis testbed game instead?

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I think mortar is a bit behind the times.

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Space Mortars

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Antimatter Mortars?

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A fourth weapon? Heresy! What weapon would it be 2x against, hmm?

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Alien - May not use spies or shields. Immune to spies and shields.


So aliens attacking a shielded player get through and still attack?

 
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