05-05-2005 05:16									#1
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How would you see a "Mars Colonization" TBS game?

I'm surprised that no game was done yet about going on Mars, should it be a RTS or even Mario's Mars Golf. How should a TBS on the "going on Mars" context be?

Personally, I see pretty well different Mars factions with each of them getting support from different Earth factions / nations (corporations, X-Prize, religious cults, whatever) based on actions, successes or origin. It seems that in the end the Age of Empires which is coming thaught about that on the RTS scene but I thought about this before them

As in SMAC, terraforming might affect everyone at once and maybe the wind can teleport you

I don't really expect miracles, but if a SMAC-like would come out from somewhere, it seems like it could be a subject theme now. And I find it quite fun

	05-05-2005 06:32									#2
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For a Mars remake of SMAC, download the Mars Survivors scenario.

	05-05-2005 09:06									#3
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Well there is earth 2150, though that was the moon and not mars....

But really the best one would have been the long canned simmars, now that was looking like it would have been a great game

	05-05-2005 16:28									#4
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SimMars

	05-05-2005 18:07									#5
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I'm always on the look out for the game Outpost failed to be. Unfortunately these days I dont think anyone would bother trying for a serious game about viable ways of harnessing the resources of the solar system. Instead we get the likes of Space Colony and Startopia.

	05-05-2005 18:24									#6
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quote: Originally posted by Wise Ass Well there is earth 2150, though that was the moon and not mars.... But really the best one would have been the long canned simmars, now that was looking like it would have been a great game

Well, there is a mod for SimCity 4 to turn it into SimMars:
http://www.simtropolis.com/idealbb/default.asp?catID=15

I never tryed it, but it looks impressive.

	05-05-2005 21:03									#7
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Well those are not adapted to this specific environment. It's simply a city on Mars or a SMAC-like model applied to Mars. It has the form but not the content.

If there is something to come about a planet-base TBS, it'd be Mars before something else. I don't know if there is an important enough audience for this, but I'm still curious to see how could be included Earth factions, oil/food/tools shipments Earthly shipments, Mars factions, potential green/tech/religious fanatics, smuggling...

	05-05-2005 21:23									#8
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Well, I would actually like having colonizing the Mars, instead of Alpha Centari, as victory condition.

AC spacetrip is just to much SF.

	05-05-2005 21:55									#9
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quote: Originally posted by Trifna If there is something to come about a planet-base TBS, it'd be Mars before something else. I don't know if there is an important enough audience for this, but I'm still curious to see how could be included Earth factions, oil/food/tools shipments Earthly shipments, Mars factions, potential green/tech/religious fanatics, smuggling...

SMAC on Mars... SMCM anyone? (Sid Meier's CivMars)

	06-05-2005 06:06									#10
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quote: Originally posted by player1 Well, I would actually like having colonizing the Mars, instead of Alpha Centari, as victory condition. AC spacetrip is just to much SF.

The problem with colonizing Mars is that the planet is essentially uninhabitable, too hostile for human life. Alpha Centauri is (at least in Civ terms) a solar system which resembles our own system, and this would make it a better place to perpetuate our species.

	06-05-2005 06:14									#11
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quote: Originally posted by Alex The problem with colonizing Mars is that the planet is essentially uninhabitable, too hostile for human life.

I guess terraformation would be one of the central issues of a Mars game.

Such as in the Mars scenario I linked to. There you start on a superdry Mars world, and have to create seas to make it more habitable.

	06-05-2005 14:51									#12
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I read once, in a popular science paper, that if we started now, we could terraform Mars to be inhabitable for humans after 100 years. The way to do it was essentially doing a darwinistic approach in fast forward.

	06-05-2005 20:38									#13
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Maniac: Don't worry, I WILL give a look at your scenario

Nikolai: I heard 200 years for a more complete terraformation. They were thinking about creating some massive greenhouse effect. But all this evolves so much and so fast that I don't know what they're up to now. But obviously, the terraformation part would be great in a game, especially with players at each others' throats hehe

	07-05-2005 16:42									#14
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CivMars would be great

I've also thought about a civ-like game that takes place on Dune (what was the planet called again?)

	08-05-2005 03:47									#15
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It was called Arrakis. But this would seem pretty "niche market" oriented so I don't see this being done in priority over a Mars setting. SciFi doesn't catch with everyone, and Mars fans are perhaps more numerous than Dune fans as Mars is more known on this planet than Arrakis

	08-05-2005 04:08									#16
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quote: Originally posted by Trifna Maniac: Don't worry, I WILL give a look at your scenario

Actually, it's not his... [/humble]

	08-05-2005 04:51									#17
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Yeah, my contribution was mainly playtesting and saying that the game should be made harder ( ), and in promoting it on the internet. I keep having plans to make my own version of it though (mainly adding 'Planet' as eco-terrorists). Never find the time.

Best SMAC scenario ever!


(Never have seen you before in this forum btw, as far as I can remember. Interested in Civ4?)

	08-05-2005 06:05									#18
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It's perhaps my 3th (4th now then) post here.

Following it from a distance, you could say.

	08-05-2005 15:29									#19
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quote: Originally posted by Trifna It was called Arrakis. But this would seem pretty "niche market" oriented so I don't see this being done in priority over a Mars setting. SciFi doesn't catch with everyone, and Mars fans are perhaps more numerous than Dune fans as Mars is more known on this planet than Arrakis

Unfortunatly yes

	10-05-2005 22:12									#20
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wasn't there a mars scenario for civ 2?

	10-05-2005 22:18									#21
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I don't think so. Perhaps a used made one?

	10-05-2005 22:24									#22
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it may have been a part of that "best of the net" disc.

	10-05-2005 23:26									#23
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There has indeed been a mars scenario in Civ II.
It was on that disc with the Jules Verne scenario and other stuff.

	11-05-2005 04:03									#24
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Bah... scenarios...

I wonder if from Civ4 it would be possible to include Earth metropolis, and Earth factions favoring who they wish. And terraforming! You have to love your neighbor who is paying it for you included because he needs it