05-05-2005 11:01									#1
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quote: Originally posted by joncnunn So far, a highly fragmented vote, only one conquest with more votes than and that one only has the support of 26.67% of the votes. (33.3% of the non banana ones) Looks like they'll be a run off with the 0 and 1 vote options eliminated.

yes indeed

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the first poll was " to be or not to be? "

so shall we continue once a victory has been achieved or finish? was the question...

The results:

Continue 6
Finish 10
Banana 5

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and now we move on down the list of questions

the second poll Which scenario do we take on?

The results:


The Age of Discovery = 2
Mesopotamia = 1
Fall of Rome = 2
Middle Ages = 0
Mesoamerica = 1
Age of Discovery = 0
Sengoku - Sword of the Shogun = 4
Napoleonic Europe = 1
WWII in the Pacific = 2
= 3 (popular little sucker)


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Which scenario do we take on? Poll II (this poll)

The Age of Discovery
Fall of Rome
Sengoku - Sword of the Shogun
WWII in the Pacific


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further questions (which will be adjusted as we go as required)

• which civ in the nominated scenario?
  
• do we modify the scenario for a better game?
  ie. we did this in the current game... main mod was removing the permanent war between Rome and Carthage
  
• which format of government do we take?
  ie. succession style we have used in Rome, or other formats...
  
• what time frame do the governments have to achieve their goals?
  

other questions to be added as required

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	05-05-2005 16:24									#2
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Paddy - great pic!

I picked Fall of Rome, as the natural extension of the last game. I would not have to buy a new wardrobe.

	05-05-2005 16:59									#3
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haha, well said

ok 11 votes and a very close race indeed.

and none for whatever will Con say about that

	05-05-2005 17:04									#4
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quote: Originally posted by Paddy the Scot haha, well said ok 11 votes and a very close race indeed.

A little too much of this "Sengoku" thing in my life lately...

quote: Originally posted by Paddy the Scot and none for whatever will Con say about that

He will probably come around and vote himself.

	05-05-2005 17:19									#5
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quote: Originally posted by Modo44 A little too much of this "Sengoku" thing in my life lately... He will probably come around and vote himself.

is that right matey

I would expect you would have a lot to say on mods for that scenario as well

so I am curious, what was your choice?

	05-05-2005 17:41									#6
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Age of Discovery. Mainly because I only played it once, and lost (on Emperor, what a shame...)

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	05-05-2005 17:52									#7
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Whatever it is, have AP on and play at Emperor or lower to make it as quick as possible

Donegeal looks and sees Civ IV on the horizon.

	05-05-2005 19:38									#8
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the age age of discovery because I have never played it and WWII seems not that much interesting for me

	05-05-2005 19:43									#9
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Age of discovery. Have never won it either, so it seems like a tough one to pick on...

	05-05-2005 20:25									#10
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quote: Originally posted by Donegeal Whatever it is, have AP on and play at Emperor or lower to make it as quick as possible Donegeal looks and sees Civ IV on the horizon.

yes that would make for a quick game

well the votes are rolling in now... and we have a close race

	05-05-2005 20:43									#11
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Voting "Fall of Rome" again, with the idea to be a mod to the Rome Everlasting mod of FoR.

	05-05-2005 20:47									#12
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Hum, that one was won on Sid level in CFC by the Protoguese.

(They were kicked out of Europe by Spain around turn 60, but their capital shifted to one of their starting one tile island cities)

AI does a slow job creating the structures that allows the tresures to form.

I did note that they also made a slight mod to allow the Irq to be playable trying for a domination win with fall back being 35K Victory Points. (Irq don't have the structures allowing sacrificing workers) Still reading thru that.

quote: Originally posted by Modo44 Age of Discovery. Mainly because I only played it once, and lost (on Emperor, what a shame...)

	05-05-2005 20:53									#13
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I think in any case we'd want some kind of mod.

For the Japan one, in addition, perhaps an extra restriction upon ourselves that we'd never build the equalivent of the UN nor call an election if we aquire it. And plus we'd start on either of the starting smaller islands.

	05-05-2005 20:59									#14
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quote: Originally posted by ormuzd the age age of discovery because I have never played it and WWII seems not that much interesting for me

If we went with WW II pacific, [unlikely], I'd call for a slight mod to allow us to pick the Dutch. It's no contest between a human playing any of the four normally playable races and the AI.

Plus the rein of every King would need to be only 2 turns because there are only 50 turns at most in the conquest. 25 to 35 turns is more common.

	05-05-2005 21:01									#15
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Actually standard AoD is absurdly easy as any of the European powers.

For that matter, there are reports of those who played as a Meso Indian tribe actually capturing a few tresures or a city with tresure buildings intact and bringing them back to their capital.

quote: Originally posted by Micha Age of discovery. Have never won it either, so it seems like a tough one to pick on...

	05-05-2005 21:09									#16
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quote: Originally posted by joncnunn I think in any case we'd want some kind of mod. For the Japan one, in addition, perhaps an extra restriction upon ourselves that we'd never build the equalivent of the UN nor call an election if we aquire it. And plus we'd start on either of the starting smaller islands.

hehe, you have a dangerous mind

	05-05-2005 21:34									#17
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Choices 1,3, and 4 were the ones that i was looking forward to. I stuck with my original vote "Age of Discovery".

Maybe we play one of the 'native' civs that are being invaded by the European hordes.

	05-05-2005 21:48									#18
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Just finished reading the report of the mod for Irq for AoD at CFC.
That group lost, so if we take their mod for it, we do not need to strengthen the AI nor do we need to play at a higher level than demigod.

In fact, we'd probably want to play it at Emperor and not DG.
Their mod for Irq if I recall correctly is capital starts as size 3 and world domination is at 40% 40%.

(They lost to England, which racked up tons and tons of combat points and a few tresures from South America well out of Irq range.)

quote: Originally posted by skrobism Choices 1,3, and 4 were the ones that i was looking forward to. I stuck with my original vote "Age of Discovery". Maybe we play one of the 'native' civs that are being invaded by the European hordes.

	05-05-2005 22:01									#19
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quote: Originally posted by joncnunn Hum, that one was won on Sid level in CFC by the Protoguese.

Well, I played the Age of Discovery for the first time yesterday, on Emperor, as the Maya. It would be pretty easy, but I realized too late how the scenario needs to be played to win (It is very different to anything I knew.) As it turned out, the Spaniards beat me by about 5 turns, winning by score (I was going for culture, obviously.) Trying it as one of the European nations would be fun, methinks.

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Oh, the CFC group as France on Emperor won an empire wide cultural victory. And with a restriction of no sacrifical alters, no worker slaying, no meso american wonders. (Ball courts being the only thing in the imeso american tree they could build.)

This was considerly more of a challenge for them than the group going for VPs as Protogual on Sid.

I haven't read 14D - 14G yet. (Spain, England, Maya, Inca)

They apprently skiped the Aztecs, but that's one tha I've won.

quote: Originally posted by Modo44 Well, I played the Age of Discovery for the first time yesterday, on Emperor, as the Maya. It would be pretty easy, but I realized too late how the scenario needs to be played to win (It is very different to anything I knew.) As it turned out, the Spaniards beat me by about 5 turns, winning by score (I was going for culture, obviously.) Trying it as one of the European nations would be fun, methinks.

	06-05-2005 01:10									#21
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quote: but I realized too late how the scenario needs to be played to win

Modo44
How is one to play to win as the Maya? I haven't tried that yet either.

	06-05-2005 02:53									#22
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quote: Originally posted by skrobism How is one to play to win as the Maya? I haven't tried that yet either.

Very simple, providing your skills allow you to keep the European nations from killing you. If you try to grow a big and prosperous country (it is possible), some stupid AI will get the win. So drop it. All you need to do is survive until your culture wins the game.

Build nothing but culture in your capital. Nothing else. The scenario is too short, and your land too low on food to waste time.

Use your other cities (you start with one Settler in your capital) to grow and make as many Javelin Throwers as you can, to capture and sacrifice as many Slaves as you can. If you get under pressure (i.e. another civ too close to a win), attack every neighbour you can to get Slaves fast - even if that means losing cities! You only need to keep your capital in the end.

Use your GA to build at least one of the Measoamerican Great Wonders (Temple of something - whichever you can) in your capital.

Give in to any cash demands by the Europeans. Their units are scary, and you really do not want to be on the receiving end of an invasion.

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	06-05-2005 03:19									#24
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well Modo, when you put it like that, it does not sound like it would keep this bunch interested for too long..

	06-05-2005 03:36									#25
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quote: Originally posted by Paddy the Scot well Modo, when you put it like that, it does not sound like it would keep this bunch interested for too long..

Exactly why I suggested to play as one of the European nations. They have a much wider range of possibilities that probably require more thought.

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	06-05-2005 03:53									#27
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quote: Originally posted by Rasputin The thrust of swords the clanging of shields , what better way to spend an afternoon. Well i just got approval from my boss to get broadband internet at home and company to pay for it. so now just awaiting a technician to complete the task and the GREAT RAZ shall return to playing soon...... ___________________________________________ WATCH THIS SPACE

well excellent

took ya long enough

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	06-05-2005 04:02									#29
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Hmmm, mod....

* E_T makes a vacant stare off into the distance.

How about the AU mod??

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