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Boris Godunov is offline Boris Godunov
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Good afternoon.

1. When e-mailing me your resume, it might be a good idea not to use your free e-mail account with the handle "Toker420." While I would like to interview you for the position, for some reason I suspect you would have difficulty passing our mandated drug testing. Call it a hunch.

2. Thank you for providing a number at which to reach you. However, when I called, the voice message I got consisted of you singing the entire "Penis Song" from Monty Python's The Meaning of Life. While I appreciate the chuckle, I was irritated at having to wait that long to leave a message. Resume circular filed.

3. It was kind of you to call and leave me that lengthy voicemail about your interest in the position. It was not so kind of you to wait until the very end of the message to leave your phone number, and even less kind to say it so fast that I had to replay the entire 5-minute message to hear it again. Or, at least would have, had I not decided to just delete it then and there. Do call again.

4. Thank you for sending us your resume. Even though our advertisement for the position clearly stated--several times--that 3 years prior experience was mandatory, it was cute of you to think we would be interested in your background, despite having 0 years experience. We await what futher antics you'll come up with next, you wascal.

5. It was a pleasure reviewing your resume submittal. That was primarily because it looked as if your resume was written by a preschooler who somehow got access to a computer and banged away randomly. We all had many laughs at it. I'd recommend using both the spelling and grammar check functions in Word, but then I would be depriving future HR people of a good deal of mirth.

6. Thank you for meeting with me the other day in reference to the _________ position with our company. While shaking your clammy, sweat-drenched hand was fun, the most enjoyable part was trying to wring even the slightest of multi-word phrases out of you in response to basic questions about your background. I particularly liked the indignant attitude you gave me when I inquired as to why you had left your previous job. I certainly think you would be smashing in our public relations department, should we ever decide to commit corporate hari-kari.

7. I regret to inform you that we have decided to terminate your position with our company. While in previous positions you held it might be acceptable to come in an hour late and leave an hour early every day, it is not accepted practice here. Call us draconian, but we also frown upon employees badging in and out of their office 17 times in one day and being unable to find, particularly when their position is a desk job with no reason to be doing so. Then, of course, there is the fact that you do exactly zero work, and are a contractor. I would also like to say that your dismissal isn't personal, but then of course I would be lying. Multiple people across several departments are doing a joyful jig now.

8. Thank you for sending me your resume yesterday. Thank you as well for the seven follow-up calls you placed to my office in the 24 hours following that submission. We do really like persistence. However, we don't really go for stalking. A single message left the day following would have been sufficient, but you had to go that extra mile! Speaking of miles, we'll see how many I can get worked into the restraining order, you psychotic loon.

9. I appreciate your faxing your resume to me. In this day and age, wherein faxing resumes instead of e-mailing them is considered archaic, you took a risk at being called old-fashioned. That takes guts. However, you also failed to differentiate between our voice and fax numbers, so for about a half hour today we got an ear-piercing shriek over the phone once every two minutes. I would love to bring you in for an interview, primarily so I may jam a pencil into your ear repeatedly.

10. Thank you for send--oh **** it, why mince words? Your resume is crap, you have zero relevant experience, your positions have been successively weaker over the years and have lasted no longer than 8 months, your degree is from a well-known diploma mill and you mispelled my name on your cover letter.

However, I see you are applying for a position as a communications manager.

Could you interview next Tuesday?

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4. Thank you for sending us your resume. Even though our advertisement for the position clearly stated--several times--that 3 years prior experience was mandatory, it was cute of you to think we would be interested in your background, despite having 0 years experience. We await what futher antics you'll come up with next, you wascal.


They all ****ing want X years of experience. I don't have any ****ing experience, so how the hell can I get any? I have plenty of knowledge from the excellent education I followed as well as the time I spent on it in my spare time. I'm a dedicated worker and a fast learner. I'm absolutely positively sure that I can be more valuable than many who do have the experience but apparently got fired last time 'round since they're looking for a job right now. If that's not good enough for you, then **** you! At least I tried.



( for all the others)

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Tired of ads?

The no experience thing sucks... There are plenty of entry level positions though... what field are you in Mercator?

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I'm not actually looking for a "real" job yet. Just practising.

Boris Godunov is offline Boris Godunov
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I'm absolutely positively sure that I can be more valuable than many who do have the experience but apparently got fired last time 'round since they're looking for a job right now.


Yet I've got several resumes of applicants who are not only just as educated and hard-working, but actually do have the requisite experience. Thank you for your interest.

Mercator is offline Mercator
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Okay, fair enough. I was really interested in the job and haven't been having much luck so far, so I thought it was worth a shot.

I just didn't think this quite fit in with the annoying, silly, stupid or overzealous qualities displayed in the other hints.

Boris Godunov is offline Boris Godunov
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I just didn't think this quite fit in with the annoying, silly, stupid or overzealous qualities displayed in the other hints.


I think it does fit, since we stressed three times in the advertisement that applicants MUST have the experience, it was mandatory. So sending me your resume would tell me either a) you don't read things carefully, b) you don't follow directions well and/or c) you're not very bright.

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Jon Miller is offline Jon Miller
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or d) very desperate

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That "no experience" thing really annoys me too. There are entry-level positions, sure, but half still require experience, the other half require school-leavers whos payrate is much lower than a full adults. Which leaves me still looking for an entry-level position 4 years later. :|

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As I said before, do volunteer work in the computer department for a nonprofit organisation. They are always short on people, esp. those with such specialised technical skills. For example, you can redesign the website, or replace MS-DOS with Linux, etc. If you show them you can do the job they may even hire you - probably not for much, but you don't have to compete with all the school-leavers.

Asher is offline Asher
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4. Thank you for sending us your resume. Even though our advertisement for the position clearly stated--several times--that 3 years prior experience was mandatory,

To be fair, I've seen clueless HR people many, many times make job requirements that are impossible.

A couple jobs I saw while looking for an internship position asked for 5 years of C# experience. Hint: C# is less than 5 years old...

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As I said before, do volunteer work in the computer department for a nonprofit organisation. They are always short on people, esp. those with such specialised technical skills. For example, you can redesign the website, or replace MS-DOS with Linux, etc. If you show them you can do the job they may even hire you - probably not for much, but you don't have to compete with all the school-leavers.

Would've been great advice 5 years ago when practically nobody had Linux experience or web site experience. You show your age well.

What you describe is standard with any college-level compsci-type person, which is the kind of person I'd gather would go for such a mundane position.

Why the hell would you aim so low anyway? People get shoved into IT positions here when they aren't qualified for anything else.

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There's something called work-study. You get an education and work experience to pad your CV with.

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There's something called work-study. You get an education and work experience to pad your CV with.

Yeah, the bright people among us do that (it's called cooperative education here).

You even get to network with the major players.

Let's be honest: someone who spent 16 months with IBM is going to get the job over someone who spent 16 months volunteering for the York Region Homeless Shelter, converting their DOS machines to Linux...

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Would've been great advice 5 years ago when practically nobody had Linux experience or web site experience. You show your age well.


On the contrary. Practically nobody had Linux or website design experience.

Okay, let me repharse. They may have experience, but they still don't know what they are doing.

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Why the hell would you aim so low anyway? People get shoved into IT positions here when they aren't qualified for anything else.

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Yeah, says the man who's doing user support

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Interning also does wonders for technical and non-technical types. When I interned on Capitol Hill my boss started out as a 27 year-old intern and got hired. I started as an intern at my firm and now I'm going to be some sort of junior lobbyist/researcher after only two months. Sometimes giving away your time can help advance your career.

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Let's be honest: someone who spent 16 months with IBM is going to get the job over someone who spent 16 months volunteering for the York Region Homeless Shelter, converting their DOS machines to Linux...


That's what you are wishing for

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Yeah, says the man who's doing user support

Which one of us has a user account on the fastest computer in the world, BlueGene/L, to do performance testing?

Game over...

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Asher is such a prude.

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wow, im a math geek and I dont even use (can i call them?) jokes like that or find them funny..

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Boris,

Do people REALLY send you resumes from diploma mills?


Actually, that was a rhetorical question, tell us more about them.

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Which one of us has a user account on the fastest computer in the world, BlueGene/L, to do performance testing?

Game over...

Wow. Asher's nerdschlong is HUGE.

Too bad he uses BlueGene/L for porn.

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Well, I think both Urban Ranger and Asher have valid points, they aren't mutually exclusive to each other.

I've gotten alot of experience through both volunteer work AND doing an internship. In fact, the volunteer work helped me get the internship, and I could have gotten a job at the place where I interned.

I often wonder what life would have been like had I picked that fork in the road.

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I think it does fit, since we stressed three times in the advertisement that applicants MUST have the experience, it was mandatory. So sending me your resume would tell me either a) you don't read things carefully, b) you don't follow directions well and/or c) you're not very bright.


Yes because as someone with no experience applying for a job our primary concern is making YOU happy you pretencious *explitive* not suceeding on our quest for enjoyment.

The world does not revolve around you.



Finding an internship is near impossible if you won't work on saturdays i've found.

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Dear evil HR person:


Remember the horribly low-paid position that I applied for because I was desperate at the time?

Well, I have attained a much better position now, so you can take that open position you have, and shove it up your ***.



Respectfully not yours,



MrFun

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ok MrFun

Here you go:

 
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