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Lawrence of Arabia is offline Lawrence of Arabia
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1. There has never been a case where more than one person encountered a ghost.


I've heard several of those cases, though they're not as common I believe

And I've also heard lots of cases where personA has a ghost-experience, but decides not to tell anyone. Then personB stays at this same place and has exactly the same ghost-experience as personA. PersonB decides to share it and by this he discovers that personA has seen the exact same thing

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And another thing about the ghost-story I told you about yesterday
My family who lives in that house has often experienced where the door to the bathroom was locked even though nobody was in there
I've never heard about such type of lock they have that auto-locks at random times, but I wouldn't be surpised if it turns out to be some faulty lock they have
It takes more than some feelings and a locked door to make me believe there's ghost(s) in that place, so I'm not the kind of person who believes everybody when they say their house is haunted

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To me, ghosts I have seen (not that there have been many) are as real as any of my other hallucinations, which are as real as any of you, and as real as any people i meet in real life.

I live in a confusing world.

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The last house I used to live in had one of those garages that were separate from the house. The back door of the garage didn't lock, but it was one of those neighborhoods where it wasn't a concern. Nor could anyone tell as it could be closed just fine. However, during one summer, we discovered the door open and no remembers leaving it open. In fact, we hardly used it because we usually opened the garage door itself. Anyway, we were worried that animals could get in, so the door shouldn't have been left open. It seemed impossible that an animal could open it as it had a round knob that was difficult enough for any of us to turn let alone an opposable-thumb-lacking critter. So we closed it and forgot about it. Yet, about once every week that summer, we found the door open with no explaination. Neighbors said that this house used to belong to a mechanic who fixed up old cars in the garage. Everynight, he'd go through that door to make a few adjustments and tinker around. Often so engrossed in his work, he'd leave the door open behind. The neighbors said that he died several years ago in an automobile accident. So for sometime we thought it was his ghost opening the door. Then we discovered it was only bigfoot.

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I put the concept of ghosts alongside the idea of dragons and teletubbies...A half-witted fantasy.

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I've not had a definate personal experience of them, but here is a freaky story for you all.

We need to go back about 18 years to my parents house in south west england.
This is what happend and made me view these things with a more open mind.
The youngest of my brothers and sisters kept leaving their bedroom to stay in my parents rooms because they were scared and having bad dreams. This went on for a couple of weeks, some nights worse than others.

Anyway we eventualy got information out of the young uns, they apparently were both getting woken up with a bad dream that involved a fire in the bedroom, and in a few instances when they were most afraid, when they awoke they could see the fire in the corner of their room.

Anyway my mother did a little research in the local libary on our house and came up with some newspaper cuting from around the time of WWII.

A german bombing run had hit Plymouth and on its way back had some spare bombs so dropped them on the village. Our house had been hit and damaged - that particualr bedroom on the front corner of the house being most damaged.

Spooky.

Still the dreams+visions stopped after a while and that was the end of that. We keep those old paper cuttings in a frame to tell visitors the tale when they ask about them

a true story too.

And i know a school mate who had a situation a little like Adagio's story. So even though i've not seen one first hand - i think there must be something to all these types of events. Ghosts seems to sum it up nicely?

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My town got blitzed by the Luftwaffe, and the local school was
used to store the multitude of dead bodies from the nightly attacks.

Now this school has a reputation from students that
the old gym halls are haunted, and the rumour of dodgy
sealed-up underground tunnels too...

It appears there are quite a few military tunnel warren systems built in my area,
during the 1939-40 invasion scare in the UK...Complete with large air-raid shelters
and gasoline storage, I have even seen one of these.

Seems even in the event of a nazi invasion of the UK, the British
defence forces wanted to continue operations from hidden bases.

These tunnels are all over Glasgow too, and contribute much to urban legends and ghost tales...

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Excellent ghost stories!

"Then we discovered it was only bigfoot." -DaShi




More, more!

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quote:
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I've heard several of those cases, though they're not as common I believe


Possibly, though I haven't heard any where the details match.

quote:
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And I've also heard lots of cases where personA has a ghost-experience, but decides not to tell anyone. Then personB stays at this same place and has exactly the same ghost-experience as personA. PersonB decides to share it and by this he discovers that personA has seen the exact same thing


I have seen these, too. However, the human mind works in strange ways. For example, there is a tendency to fill in details, and usually an event will get elaborated as time passes. This is evident in the experiments where false memory of alien abduction was planted in volunteers by suggestion.

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I wonder if there is a correlation between people who believe in Ghost and people who believe in God.

I'm not insinuating anything on this one, it would be an interesting relationship if there was one.

As for me I have no stories but my mother is a strong believer in Ghosts and everything spiritual, iirc shes mentioned seeing some once or twice, and my dad used to tell some pretty cool Ghost stories back in the days.

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I really don't believe that ghosts exists, but I admit that what people have experienced cannot be explained away, and I also really enjoy ghost stories. In fact, this thread is creeping me out. And I like that.

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Ghost stories are fun, and good to scare others with

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I have seen these, too. However, the human mind works in strange ways. For example, there is a tendency to fill in details, and usually an event will get elaborated as time passes. This is evident in the experiments where false memory of alien abduction was planted in volunteers by suggestion.


I know, this is why I don't believe just any ghost story

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I wonder if there is a correlation between people who believe in Ghost and people who believe in God.

I'm not insinuating anything on this one, it would be an interesting relationship if there was one.



You are right.

It has to do with a person's readiness to accept extraordinary data as fact.

I guess these people call it 'faith' - I call it 'unproven'.

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Another one:

This is a bit tricky because i dont know if its actualy a ghost story as such as i didnt think it was a ghost thing at the time. Also it happend along time ago when i was a wee wiper-snapper of 10 years old

The setting Wales, rural. My brother and I are taking the dog our for her walk.
We lived in the middle of no-where, in a small hamlet with about 3 other houses; and then loads of fields/forests etc all around.

Anyway up the back of our house is a field that belonged to a rather grumpy farmer, he'd threatend to shoot my dog sometime earlier, so i decided to go have a look at what i could break on his land. I knew it was risky taking the dog - but i reckoned he wouldn't shoot her while me and my young brother were around.

So at the top of this field is a small wood - its got a fence around it and a gate with a small track running down the middle of it.

So we both go in, and once inside i let my dog of her leash, so she can have a run around.

The copse is pretty overgrown, the track hasn't been used in a long time as the various plants have started to grow over it. And everywhere among the standing trees are fallen trees, with their roots sticking up in the air.
For some odd reason many of them have long stands of moss/vines hanging down from the roots - they look a bit spooky, and there is a slight ground mist.

So anyway the atmosphere of the place is getting to both my brother(he was only 6 at the time, bless him ) and myself. So i accept that we were both in a heightend state of emotions

So we are imagining witches, monsters lurking in the mists etc.

Then my dog starts yelping - not a yelp i'd heard her make before and that freaks me out. So we both start shouting for her to come to heel.

Eventualy she zips out of the mist going full tilt, and zooms right by us, still making this weird yelping sound. She didnt even slow down when she saw us waving at her to stop.
So we're even more freaked out now. She dissapears then comes around in a loop and here is the freaky bit.

the sides of this wood, where the fences are, slopes upwards from the path. So past the fence you see the sky as this wood was on the top of the hill surrounded by the field.

Both of us see this quite clearly. My dog is still running after something like crazy, in full flight(and she was quick - could catch rabbits etc), still making this odd sound.

The bit that finished us off, and made us run home without my dog; was that in front of my dog was a black 'blob'. About the size of a hedgehog. It was completely dark in colour and didn't appear to have moving parts - it was hovering about 2 inches above the ground and moving at a hell of a pace!

I dont know what it was, i'm pretty much a nature boy and i've never seen any animal move like that, even today i just can't quite fit it in a rationale context. Animals just dont hover above the ground, move around or look like that blob.

My dog came back home a little while later, so i was happy as i'd been feeling pretty guilty about leaving her.

I've always thought maybe it was a 'ufo' thing? but maybe it was a ghost - like a ghost of a large black hedgehog or something

this is another true story but the last reguarding ghost type stuff that has happend that i have witnesed.

But on the subject of faith and believing in ghosts, then maybe there is a corrolation. I have a faith, and even though generaly sceptical of ghost/alien stories, i try to keep an open mind, mainly due to the few weird things i've seen i guess?

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child of Thor, it's interesting too that your account, like mine, had no real point, no startleing ending, no rattleing of chains. These things seem to have no point! A dog disturbs and pisses off a black blob minding its own business and gets chased off. Something that will stick with you all your life, but only because you can't explain it. The consequence of the story isn't there, because there is none. It's just stuff that happens...

For me, a guy in a coat in my living room, never see him again, seems to be no lasting effects on me, what was he up to? The point! the point! Just trying to scare me? Well, that worked. Also, two little people on my dresser throwing sparkles at me. Too bizzarre to be true, right? Yet I remember it like it was yesterday. No lasting effects...though I blame my bad speling on these guys.

Do you ever discuss this event with your brother? What does he say about it?

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Everything is explainable, Lancer, except human behavior.





Anthropocentrism:


anyway...

Unlike God, the existance of ghosts is testable. Although it is unlikely, I'm keeping an open mind (though it may just be wishful thinking hoping for an afterlife ).

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What does her little note say? Can't read the small print...

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Do you ever discuss this event with your brother? What does he say about it?


I can't remember when we last talked about it, at the time for sure and a little while after(telling mom and all that). I'll ask him next time i see him - maybe he has come up with a rational reason in the interviening years?

I dont' think about it often myself, as you say it just happend with no real reason, this thread just joged my memmory. I would like to add that at the age i was when i saw this i didn't take drugs or alcohol

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Both my experiences were as a child as well.

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Ghosts are overrated.

I think there's a reason why the Danish word for ghost (spøgelse) is derived from/closely connected to the word for joke/prank/novelty (spøg).

Most tales of ghosts come from experiences people seem to have had in the evasive and intriguing "twilight zone" between being awake and asleep, often without realising that they were, of course. I think that's why ghost tales have traditionally been closely connected to the "midnight hour", where most people are more likely to be in a state of blurred or hazy consciousness.

The full moonlit night is another element that's often connected with people experiencing ghost-like phenomena. It provides a perfect backdrop for indistinct, hazy visions to be imagined.

In short, balony!

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But without ghosts there would be almost no good horror movies... what a sad world that would be

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@Lancer,

And they sound pretty spooky to me - Hovering Blobs and younger siblings 'x-file' type stories i can cope with

Freaky strangers in my house.........not so sure.

In Devon there is a famous place that is meant to be haunted. The ghost is called the white lady, and if local lore from the last few hundred years is to be believed; anyone who sees her dies shortly afterwards.

I went to camp near the location with some school friends, we were all really keen to see the thing(crazy death-wish guys+gals with drugs+alcohol).

We didn't , not through lack of trying, but after wandering around most of the night the drink and drugs got the better of us; so we all ended up naked and ran around the old jousting pit untill we passed out instead

 
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