10-05-2005 02:19									#1
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Are there ghosts? Ever seen one? Know anyone who has? Got any cool ghost stories?

When I was a kid I saw a guy coming at me in my living room. My whole family was watching TV, and I turned my head and there he was, coming at me. Just a kid, I turned away and froze in my chair, in fear. When I looked back he was gone.

Then, also as I child, I woke up and there were two little people on my dresser throwing sparkles at me. I hid under the covers, checking once in a while to see if they were still there. Eventually they were gone.

I guess I'm a total loony tune, but you knew that already.

	10-05-2005 02:28									#2
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I've seen plenty of ghosts. Of course, they were all on an old TV with bad reception.

	10-05-2005 02:31									#3
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You know... I may be totally wacko, conspiracy theorist, Fox Mulder embodied, but I tend to explain ghosts with a number of factors, of which infrasound is the most important one. Low frequency sound that matches eye vibration frequency + psychological effects + fear instilled by infrasound + ghosts disappearing when you focus on them...

	10-05-2005 02:32									#4
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ghosts do not exist

	10-05-2005 02:34									#5
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident ghosts do not exist

Wrong by itself. If people claim to see them, they do exist. As a figment of imagination, a spirit, a hoax, whatever, but they exist. Just like God exists even if there is no God.

	10-05-2005 02:40									#6
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Ghosts do not exist.

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Everytime you say that a ghost dies!

I don't believe in Lancers.

	10-05-2005 02:44									#8
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You guys can say that 'ghosts do not exist', but really all you are saying is that nothing you can't explain has ever happened to you and that your minds are closed.

	10-05-2005 02:45									#9
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must have been a different Lancer

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? Different Lancer

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Japher must have killed a different Lancer

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Everything is explainable, Lancer, except human behavior.

	10-05-2005 02:50									#13
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che, I'm inclined to agree...but I don't know the explanation.

	10-05-2005 02:54									#14
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UFOs cause ghosts! OMFG!

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One word: empiricism.

	10-05-2005 02:56									#16
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Be serious Japher!

It's a crazy subject...

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PH, one word: wtf?

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My wife claims to have seen a ghost, and I am less of a sceptic than I am letting on.

I also like that on the Travel Channel with those guys who go around chasing ghosts, not bad... lots of unexplainable things.

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quote: Originally posted by Solver Wrong by itself. If people claim to see them, they do exist. As a figment of imagination, a spirit, a hoax, whatever, but they exist. Just like God exists even if there is no God.

I claim to see hot women having sex with me. Do they exist?

	10-05-2005 03:00									#20
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The Travel channel makes $ from it so I'm inclined to doubt...

What was your wife's experience?

	10-05-2005 03:01									#21
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Most ghosts are people tricking themselves. It's damned easy to do. The mind is a wonderful toy.

	10-05-2005 03:01									#22
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"I claim to see hot women having sex with me. Do they exist?"

Only if they stick around for breakfast.

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che, I don't agree. Not if the experience is as real as me sitting here and hitting this keyboard...

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quote: What was your wife's experience?

Her grandfather died in a hospital from lung failure when she was 10 or something, he died in the middle of the night. In the morning she came out of her bedroom asking where grandpa was, and her parents told her he was dead. However, she swore he was in her room the night before.

She is freaked out by the thought of ghosts.

The last house we rented I swear was haunted by a little old asian lady.

	10-05-2005 03:05									#26
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I believe ghosts exists, but I've never seen a ghost

Some family members say that they have often felt that "someone" was looking over their shoulders at a specific place in their house, but they've never seen what "it" was. According to them (they were 5 who have felt it) they all felt it without knowing the others has been in the same situation, so it took some time before they actually talked about it (and found out they where not the only ones)
I don't know exactly "how much" and "what" they felt

	10-05-2005 03:07									#27
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Under hypnosis, people can be convinced that things happened to them that never really happened. The mind is easily tricked or confused, and it tries to make meaning out of things it can't readily explain. No one likes to believe the tricked themselves. But people "experience" things that can't have happened all the time.

Take for example alien abductees who live in NYC. How is it possible that an alien space carft flew downinto NYC, abducted people out of their apartment, performed experiencets on them for hours, put them back in their apartment, and no one else noticed? I realize not many New Yorkers look up, but still.

	10-05-2005 03:08									#28
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quote: How is it possible that an alien space carft flew downinto NYC, abducted people out of their apartment, performed experiencets on them for hours, put them back in their apartment, and no one else noticed?

Superior technology.... duh, haven't you seen Predator?

	10-05-2005 03:12									#29
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"The last house we rented I swear was haunted by a little old asian lady."

Why do you think she is 'little' 'old' or 'asian'. Must have seen something to have such an impression.

I remember the coal black coat the guy that came at me in my living room was wearing. How does a ghost bring a coat? It's very crazy.

Adagio, such stuff could just be chance, a creepy room, that sort of thing. Whaddaya think?

	10-05-2005 03:12									#30
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quote: Originally posted by Japher I also like that on the Travel Channel with those guys who go around chasing ghosts, not bad... lots of unexplainable things.

Some years ago there was a show called Fear where 6 young people was living in a place (for a few days) where there was supposed to be a lot of ghosts around. I really liked this show, though I do have my doubts about how real it actually was... to be hornest I would actually be suprised if it turns out to be real... but it was still a great show