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Oerdin
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of Internet Music.
Sep 2001
time: 21:19
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Originally posted by pchang
Actually, the other guy already cheated. |
The claim of cheating originated in the post Civil War time frame until the 1950s or 1960s. It's time for you to let go. I think somebody needs a hug. Come here, man.
(reaches out to hug pchang)
Last edited by Oerdin on 12-05-2005 at 06:49
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Oerdin
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of Internet Music.
Sep 2001
time: 21:19
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Originally posted by pchang
Everybody. You have to remember the origin of the term gerrymandering. |
“An official statement of the returns of voters for senators give[s] twenty nine friends of peace, and eleven gerrymanders.” So reported the May 12, 1813, edition of the Massachusetts Spy. A gerrymander sounds like a strange political beast, which it is, considered from a historical perspective. This beast was named by combining the word salamander, “a small lizardlike amphibian,” with the last name of Elbridge Gerry, a former governor of Massachusettsa state noted for its varied, often colorful political fauna. Gerry (whose name, incidentally, was pronounced with a hard g, though gerrymander is now commonly pronounced with a soft g) was immortalized in this word because an election district created by members of his party in 1812 looked like a salamander. According to one version of gerrymander's coining, the shape of the district attracted the eye of the painter Gilbert Stuart, who noticed it on a map in a newspaper editor's office. Stuart decorated the outline of the district with a head, wings, and claws and then said to the editor, “That will do for a salamander!” “Gerrymander!” came the reply. The word is first recorded in April 1812 in reference to the creature or its caricature, but it soon came to mean not only “the action of shaping a district to gain political advantage” but also “any representative elected from such a district by that method.” Within the same year gerrymander was also recorded as a verb.
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=gerrymandering
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Boris Godunov
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Portland, OR
Aug 2001
time: 00:19
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Originally posted by Lefty Scaevola
Arong as usual. No such rule. Legislation passes the same way in a special as in a general. A special seesion does have different rules on what legislation may be introduced and some of the 'calendar' rules are differnt IIRC. |
http://www.columbia.edu/cu/cpu/cpr/...ling_lines.html
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This, however, was only the beginning of the redistricting fight in Austin. Republican Governor Rick Perry called for a “special session,” at which the House successfully passed the redistricting plan. But the matter got bogged down in bureaucratic channels in the Senate. After the first special session ended, Perry called a second special session, one in which the State Senate leadership decided to abandon parliamentary rules requiring a two-thirds vote on special session legislation and to opt instead for a simple majority vote on the new congressional plan. By now it was clear that the Republicans had thrown all rules and traditions out the window in their determination to achieve a partisan victory. |
http://usgovinfo.about.com/b/a/020005.htm
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The first called session expired in a deadlock, as 12 of 31 Texas Senators(3) opposed the plan. Under Senate rules and tradition, a 2/3 vote is required to consider any bill on the floor of the Senate, giving 11 Senators the power to block a vote(4). The Republican Governor and Lieutenant Governor then determined they would do away with the 2/3 rule, and called another special session, forcing 11 Democratic Senators to break the quorum and leave the state.(5) These Senators have spent the past 22 days in Albuquerque, New Mexico. |
The Republicans used the 2/3rd rule in 2001 to block redistricting, so saying it doesn't exist is mighty funny.
http://www.offthekuff.com/mt/archives/002169.html
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The Democrats noted that former colleague Republican Sen. David Sibley of Waco and a coalition of Republican senators used the Senate's two-thirds rule in 2001 to block a congressional redistricting bill.
"Two years later, now that every single African-American and Hispanic member of the Texas Senate wants to use the same rules to stop consideration of the same issue, suddenly they want to change the same rules," the Democrats said.
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(original source was El Paso's Borderland News)
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